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#440
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Jim
on 30 Nov, 2006 18:47
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Dexter - 30/11/2006 1:30 AM
It's been more than 30 days for the FTC review. Wonder what the hold-up is?
getting all the ducks in a row.
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#441
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Chris Bergin
on 30 Nov, 2006 19:13
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Propforce - 30/11/2006 5:47 AM
We'll find out how many will move to Denver shortly.....
I once had a fling with a very nice woman from Denver, so if LockULAing want some more PAO's, put my name down
On the relocations, I'm assuming they will be very attractive packages for those who have to move?
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#442
by
Chris Bergin
on 30 Nov, 2006 23:44
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bombay - 30/11/2006 5:30 AM
Jim - 29/11/2006 7:06 PM
Day 1 is monday
Based on what source?
I can at least confirm there's a presser at 8:30am Eastern on Friday.
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#443
by
bombay
on 30 Nov, 2006 23:52
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Chris Bergin - 30/11/2006 6:27 PM
bombay - 30/11/2006 5:30 AM
Jim - 29/11/2006 7:06 PM
Day 1 is monday
Based on what source?
I can at least confirm there's a presser at 8:30am Eastern on Friday.
It's a presser on ULA?
If so, it's a done deal. That would put the release out 1 hour before markets opens, which is standard for any type of major announcement.
I guess come Monday all of the top executives will get their $million bonuses and everyone else will get their coffee and donuts.
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#444
by
quark
on 01 Dec, 2006 00:18
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bombay - 29/11/2006 10:28 PM
Gov't Seagull - 29/11/2006 4:23 PM
quark - 28/11/2006 8:19 PM
I'd bet a lot. Atlas V 401 launching a passenger capsule absolutely meets 1.4 Look at figure 4,5 & 6 in this paper:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/data/assets/13344.pdf
What I see in that paper is positive margin against FS=1.4 for a notional passenger mission that is a lot less severe than any of the unmanned missions. They do not have positive margins against FS=1.4 for the missions they actually fly. Maybe the passenger mission they analyzed is typical, maybe it was cooked up so they could say they are already man-rated, I don't know.
You can't conclude that the missions they actually fly don't meet the 1.4 f.s.
The common core booster is analyzed to a worst case loading condition, presumably the 552 configuration. Assuming every part analyzed had a margin of safety of +0.00 using a 1.25 f.s., the less severe loading percentage relative to the 401 configured flights would potentially make up for the difference in m.s. when using the 1.40 f.s. versus the 1.25 f.s. In other words, the +0.00 m.s. would be maintained.
As far as manned flights to LEO are concerned, the loads would be less than typical flights to GTO, so by ratioing the loading conditions between worst case loaded 552 configured flights and relatively lightly loaded 401 manned flights, the 1.40 f.s. is likely met with room to spare.
Correct. ANY 401 flight would show similar margins. In fact the margins are slightly lower on the human trajectory because the trajectory was depressed to shape out black zones. The more typical 401 profile would be more lifted with even lower loads.
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#445
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Chris Bergin
on 01 Dec, 2006 00:34
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bombay - 1/12/2006 12:35 AM
Chris Bergin - 30/11/2006 6:27 PM
bombay - 30/11/2006 5:30 AM
Jim - 29/11/2006 7:06 PM
Day 1 is monday
Based on what source?
I can at least confirm there's a presser at 8:30am Eastern on Friday.
It's a presser on ULA?
If so, it's a done deal. That would put the release out 1 hour before markets opens, which is standard for any type of major announcement.
I guess come Monday all of the top executives will get their $million bonuses and everyone else will get their coffee and donuts.
Yes sir.
Joint press conference. Done deal.
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#446
by
Seattle Dave
on 01 Dec, 2006 03:38
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Will it be webcast at all?
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#447
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Chris Bergin
on 01 Dec, 2006 12:32
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Seattle Dave - 1/12/2006 4:21 AM
Will it be webcast at all?
Nope
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#448
by
Jim
on 01 Dec, 2006 12:57
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#449
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Chris Bergin
on 01 Dec, 2006 12:59
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#450
by
Chris Bergin
on 01 Dec, 2006 15:24
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#451
by
Damon Hill
on 01 Dec, 2006 16:22
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T minus 9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...0
0? Hello? No ignition, no liftoff? ULA does not launch?
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#452
by
Damon Hill
on 01 Dec, 2006 16:25
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Sysadmin must have been on coffee break; it's up and running now.
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#453
by
bombay
on 01 Dec, 2006 17:01
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Based on the website, it looks like ULA has the engineers in H.B. as well as the manufacturing, assembly and integration personnel in Denver and San Diego packed and on the bus with ticket in-hand to their new locations.
The San Diego situation presents a very unique dilemma - unique rocket design, unique methods of manufacturing and assembly, unique manufacturing processes, unique problems associated with thin gauge stainless steel fabrication. How many of them do you suppose will accept the one-way ticket to Decatur, Alabama?
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#454
by
kevin-rf
on 01 Dec, 2006 19:42
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#455
by
kevin-rf
on 01 Dec, 2006 19:47
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Didn't read the fine print close enough, the GTO's are the same. The LEO orbits are different.
185km 28.5 degrees for Atlas V
407km at 28.7 degrees for Delta IV
I wonder what the mass penalty is for that...
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#456
by
edkyle99
on 01 Dec, 2006 21:32
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Chris Bergin - 1/12/2006 10:07 AM
New website live in one hour 
http://www.ulalaunch.com/
I found the home page launcher slide show a bit interesting. Images of just about every Atlas V version appeared, followed by a Delta II photo, and finally by photos of Delta IV Heavy. Then it was back to Atlas V.
No Delta IV Mediums.
Interesting.
- Ed Kyle
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#457
by
bombay
on 01 Dec, 2006 21:57
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It was interesting to read that: "Lockheed's Atlas and Boeing's Delta can't compete against ULA for gov't launch contracts for the first five years".
So after five years Lockheed and Boeing can compete against each other as well as ULA for gov't contracts even though "Lockheeds's Atlas" and "Boeing's Delta" are actually ULA's Atlas and Delta? How weird is this?
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#458
by
R&R
on 02 Dec, 2006 03:54
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Where did you read that? It's not accurate.
They are only ULA's Atlas and Delta now.
ULA must use the parents LM and Boeing to market and sell launches for the first years (I think it was less than five) but after that they are free to do the marketing and sales directly. If they choose to do that LM & Boeing will stop and just sit back to collect their share of profits.
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#459
by
bombay
on 02 Dec, 2006 04:29
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R&R - 1/12/2006 10:37 PM
Where did you read that? It's not accurate.
They are only ULA's Atlas and Delta now.
ULA must use the parents LM and Boeing to market and sell launches for the first years (I think it was less than five) but after that they are free to do the marketing and sales directly. If they choose to do that LM & Boeing will stop and just sit back to collect their share of profits.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/061201/lockheed_boeing_rockets_merger.html?.v=6You'll find the quote near the bottom of the article.
