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#60
by
Rocket Guy
on 01 Oct, 2005 17:01
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I thought Expedition 10 a year ago was the 100th manned flight. There were articles about it, though they did note the fact that the Russians don't like to count the two launch failures (such as 18A).
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#61
by
anik
on 01 Oct, 2005 17:57
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Ben,
Soyuz TMA-5 launch with ISS Expedition 10 was the 98th Russian manned space launch!...
The «space launch» considers such launch, «when the rocket leaves the launch pad»... Therefore, Soyuz launch failure on April 5, 1975 is the «space launch», and Soyuz T launch failure (using of emergency rescue system) on September 26, 1983 is not the «space launch»…
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#62
by
MKremer
on 01 Oct, 2005 18:03
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Ah, well that's one way of splitting hairs - unless the entire rocket clears the pad it's not considered a 'launch'.
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#63
by
Rocket Guy
on 01 Oct, 2005 18:53
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#64
by
anik
on 01 Oct, 2005 19:22
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Soyuz-32 is included correctly, because it was launched with a crew…
Jorge R. Frank is not right, because…
…he has included Soyuz-34, though it was launched without a crew!
…he has included Soyuz T (or Soyuz T-10.1), though it was not launched in general!
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#65
by
FransonUK
on 01 Oct, 2005 20:17
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MKremer - 1/10/2005 1:03 PM
Ah, well that's one way of splitting hairs - unless the entire rocket clears the pad it's not considered a 'launch'.
Oh, is that what they mean when they make a point of saying "And the so-and-so has cleared the tower" ?
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#66
by
Rocket Guy
on 01 Oct, 2005 20:54
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Anik, thanks for clarifying.
I get it now. So, 18A is included (the third stage abort) but 10.1 (the pad abort) is not.
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#67
by
Rocket Guy
on 01 Oct, 2005 21:00
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So, if you did decided to count the pad abort as a 'launch' then technically Expedition 11 would have been 100. But for the rocket actually launching, yesterday was 100.
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#68
by
anik
on 01 Oct, 2005 21:41
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Ben - 2/10/2005 12:54 AM
So, 18A is included (the third stage abort) but 10.1 (the pad abort) is not.
Exactly!
Ben - 2/10/2005 1:00 AM
But for the rocket actually launching, yesterday was 100.
Yeah!... By the way, Soyuz TMA-8 launch on March 22, 2006 will be 100th Russian orbital manned space flight!...
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#69
by
Rocket Guy
on 01 Oct, 2005 22:46
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Well, if we didn't count 51L then STS-71 was only the 99th. So you are following the same rules we do, basically.
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#70
by
JonClarke
on 02 Oct, 2005 00:00
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Soyuz 34 was returned with a crew, so therefore a prima facie case can be made that it is a manned mission. Likewise Soyuz 32 which launched with a crew but returned without one is included. It may be better to talk about (missions" rather than "launches". Likewise Souyz T 10A was a mission even though it did not launch, at least not in toto. So 102 manned Soviet/Russian missions it is. may there be many, many more.
Jon
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#71
by
anik
on 03 Oct, 2005 01:00
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Ben - 2/10/2005 2:46 AM
Well, if we didn't count 51L then STS-71 was only the 99th. So you are following the same rules we do, basically.
On October 3, 2005...
246 manned space launches:
USSR/Russia – 100 (with Soyuz-18-1 and without Soyuz T-10-1)
USA – 145 (with MR-3, MR-4 and 51-L)
China – 1
242 orbital manned spaceflights:
USSR/Russia – 99 (without Soyuz-18-1 and Soyuz T-10-1)
USA – 142 (without MR-3, MR-4 and 51-L)
China – 1
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#72
by
Rocket Guy
on 03 Oct, 2005 03:00
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Thanks. If you count suborbital, then SS1 and the X-15 would be included as well. That amounts to something like 6 more (3 SS1, not sure on X-15).
Also of note, 436 people have now orbited the earth, and 439 have been past an altitude of 100km. These numbers don't include 51L rookies.
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#73
by
Rocket Guy
on 03 Oct, 2005 03:23
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Found out...two X-15 flights went over 100km, both piloted by Joe Walker.
TMA-7 was the 250th space flight 'mark' in history, and 242nd orbital.
(I keep editing because I keep miscounting..it gets confusing sometimes).
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#74
by
lmike
on 03 Oct, 2005 05:53
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Docking confirmed. Congrats! Especially to Mr. Olsen who's just fulfilled his life's dream.
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#75
by
anik
on 03 Oct, 2005 15:38
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Ben - 3/10/2005 7:00 AM
436 people have now orbited the earth
Ben,
437 people, not 436!
Russia – 99
USA – 274
Czechoslovakia – 1
Poland – 1
Germany – 10
Bulgaria – 2
Hungary – 1
Vietnam – 1
Cuba – 1
Mongolia – 1
Romania – 1
France – 9
India – 1
Canada – 8
Saudi Arabia – 1
Netherlands – 2
Mexico – 1
Syria – 1
Afghanistan – 1
Japan – 6
Great Britain – 1
Austria – 1
Belgium – 2
Switzerland – 1
Italy – 4
Ukraine – 1
Spain – 1
Slovakia – 1
Republic of South Africa – 1
Israel – 1
China – 1
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#76
by
JamesSpaceFlight
on 03 Oct, 2005 18:16
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Who was the British one? Micheal Foale? I ask as he's actually American I believe - just happened to be born in the UK?
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#77
by
Space101
on 03 Oct, 2005 18:18
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JamesSpaceFlight - 3/10/2005 1:16 PM
Who was the British one? Micheal Foale? I ask as he's actually American I believe - just happened to be born in the UK?
If it goes on birth place then we've got another one in a couple of shuttle launches time I think. Sky News interviewed an astronaunt who had an American accent, but was British born and he's going on Atlantis I think.
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#78
by
Space101
on 03 Oct, 2005 18:19
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Well done on docking too. The Russians sure are smooth!
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#79
by
anik
on 03 Oct, 2005 18:26
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