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Proton-M launch with Luch-5B/Yamal-300K satellites - November 2, 2012
by
anik
on 26 May, 2012 07:34
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The launch of Proton-M rocket with Briz-M upper stage and Luch-5B and Yamal-300K satellites is planned on August 30th.
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#1
by
Danderman
on 01 Jun, 2012 12:13
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http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=YJanuary 27, 2012
Yamal-300K Satellite IntegrationIn the assembly workshop of Information Satellite Systems Reshetnev Company after the offline test the mating of payload module with bus of Yamal-300K satellite was made.
Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.
Gazprom Space Systems has its ground control facilities, including the TT&C station, computing network and also common timing system, conference communication, uninterruptible power supply and general engineering systems placed in Schelkovo district, Moscow region.
Now preparations of Yamal-300K spacecraft final tests are in process.
Designated for dual launch of Yamal-300K and Luch-5B satellites Proton-M launch vehicle has been made and placed at Khrunichev State Research and Production Space Center.
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#2
by
Danderman
on 01 Jun, 2012 12:26
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http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/publications/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1410&print=YSeptember 22, 2010
ISS-Reshetnev goes on with Yamal-300K
Academician M.F. Reshetnev Information Satellite Systems is busy manufacturing the Yamal-300K spacecraft for Gazprom Space Systems’ orbital fleet.
In accordance with the contract signed between ISS-Reshetnev and Gazprom Space Systems for the manufacture of the Yamal-300K telecommunications satellite, the Reshetnev Company is responsible for the design, development, manufacture and testing of the spacecraft as well as its pre-launch preparations and in-orbit commissioning. The contract also calls for the Reshetnev Company to provide a ground control segment.
At present ISS-Reshetnev is manufacturing heat pipes for the new spacecraft. A total of 130 heat pipes will be installed onboard YAMAL-300K after rigorous testing.
As well as the manufacturing of heat pipes, there is parallel work going on the development of antenna-feeder devices. So far, the company has manufactured feeder models and tested antennas and devices intended for the TCR equipment.
The Yamal-300K spacecraft is based on ISS-Reshetnev’s Express-1000H unpressurized medium-class platform. It has been designed to operate for as long as 14 years to provide services to Russia and CIS countries.
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#3
by
Artyom.
on 20 Jul, 2012 11:14
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Breeze M Arrived at Baikonur to Support Yamal – Loutch MissionThe Breeze M Upper Stage has arrived at Baikonur earlier today to support (as part of a Proton M integrated launch vehicle) the injection of the Loutch 5B and Yamal 300K domestic communication satellites to GSO.
The Breeze M was delivered to the Yubileiny airfield by an Antonov 124-100 cargo aircraft (nicknamed Ruslan) operated by Polyot, a Russian airline.
After being offloaded, the Breeze M will be moved to the Integration-and-Test Facility (ITF), Building 92A-50. Here Khrunichev experts will carry out component-level checkouts of the Upper Stage’s systems and will process the Upper Stage for mating to the two spacecraft.
The Loutch spacecraft family has been built under the Federal Space Program of Russia 2006-2015. These satellites are designed to support duplex data exchange between ground transmit/receive facilities, on the one hand, and LEO spacecraft, manned space systems (primarily the Russian segment of the International Space Station) and other space-related objects, on the other.
Loutch satellites will support data exchange when not visible by the Russian monitoring facilities and downlink data to Russian transmit/receive stations on-line in addition to supporting TV spacebridges between, and teleconferencing of, ground facilities.Loutch 5A, the first spacecraft from the family, was successfully lofted on 11 December 2011 from the Area 81 launch pad, Baikonur, on a Proton M/Breeze M LV.
Yamal 300K has been built for Gazprom Space Systems, a satellite network operator. From its 90º E GSO slot position the spacecraft will provide coverage of Russia and the CIS in the C- and Ku-bands. The performance of its 26 transponders will be adequate for the provision of all kinds of up-to-date communication services.
The Proton M LV assigned to implement the Yamal 300K/Loutch 5A tandem launch was shipped to Baikonur on June 16. Yesterday Khrunichev and TsENKI, a Yuzhny Space Center company, completed mechanical and electrical mating of LV Stage 1 and the Stages 2/3 stack at 92A-50 ITF.
http://www.khrunichev.ru/main.php?id=1&nid=771
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#4
by
Danderman
on 20 Jul, 2012 14:05
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A video about the construction and operation of the Yamal 300K satellite - Nikolai Sevastyanov is described as the General Constructor for the Yamal satellite.
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#5
by
anik
on 25 Jul, 2012 09:31
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September 8, as per NK forum.
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#6
by
anik
on 26 Jul, 2012 11:23
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The launch is planned at 20:04 UTC on September 7th.
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#7
by
Prober
on 29 Jul, 2012 18:25
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The launch is planned at 20:04 UTC on September 7th.
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."
I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS. Can you point in the right direction?
Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur. Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?
New thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=29577.0Edit: added new thread link
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#8
by
Artyom.
on 30 Jul, 2012 10:44
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#9
by
Danderman
on 02 Aug, 2012 18:25
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http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html
"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."
I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS. Can you point in the right direction?
Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur. Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?
The network should be viable with just the first two
Luches Luchii Luch.
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#10
by
Prober
on 02 Aug, 2012 19:26
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http://www.russianspaceweb.com/luch5a.html
"In May 2012, Luch-5B went through thermal and vacuum test and its launch was scheduled for Aug. 30, 2012. By that time, Luch-5B was assigned a position at 16 degrees West longitude, where it was promised to provide communications with the ISS. As of March 2012, the launch was expected in July 2012, however by April, the mission slipped to the middle or end of August 2012. Before the end of May 2012, the launch was set for August 30, however around the same time, an official document indicated that the mission was scheduled for October."
I'm trying to understand the communications system, and what & when it will give more to the ISS. Can you point in the right direction?
Found this in the launch schedule 2014 first quarter – KazSat-3, Luch-5V – Proton-M/Briz-M – Baikonur. Do we need the Luch-5V before the communication system works?
The network should be viable with just the first two Luches Luchii Luch.
This network will give Soyuz no drop in communications?
Is this the network that will give the ISS no drop communications, and HD video feed etc?
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#11
by
anik
on 22 Aug, 2012 10:37
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#12
by
Danderman
on 22 Aug, 2012 13:44
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The network should be viable with just the first two Luches Luchii Luch.
This network will give Soyuz no drop in communications?
A free flying Soyuz cannot access the Luch satellites.
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#13
by
anik
on 28 Aug, 2012 12:05
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According to NK forum, the launch will be possibly on October 13th.
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#14
by
anik
on 31 Aug, 2012 10:51
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The launch is planned at 20:44 UTC on October 15th.
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#15
by
patchfree
on 05 Sep, 2012 19:44
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I have doubt about this launch this year as Proton/BrizM are stuck down after the last launch failed.
All the launches for the Defense Minister using Proton/BrizM are shifted to 2013. So probably the same for commercial launches.
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#16
by
anik
on 08 Sep, 2012 09:30
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#17
by
Prober
on 09 Sep, 2012 18:13
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Do we have pics yet of the Luch-5B?
Luch-5B is considered "national" for Russia or Military?
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#18
by
mrhuggy
on 10 Sep, 2012 19:08
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Do we have pics yet of the Luch-5B?
Luch-5B is considered "national" for Russia or Military?
I do have a picture of Luch-5A from the Farnbrough air show this year. I don't think there is much difference between the two.
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#19
by
Prober
on 10 Sep, 2012 20:25
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thx Chris this helps.
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#20
by
anik
on 12 Sep, 2012 17:42
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#21
by
anik
on 09 Oct, 2012 09:30
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The launch is planned at 21:05:00 UTC on November 2nd.
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#22
by
anik
on 23 Oct, 2012 08:27
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Luch-5B satellite is on Briz-M upper stage inside MIK 92A-50 building on October 21st.
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#23
by
Stan Black
on 23 Oct, 2012 17:42
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Luch-5B satellite is on Briz-M upper stage inside MIK 92A-50 building on October 21st.
With the launch of Luch-5A and Amos-5, Amos-5 was attached to the Briz-M and the smaller Luch-5A attached to Amos-5. Luch-5A was dropped off first in an inclined orbit. After another Briz-M burn Amos-5 was delivered to 0° GSO orbit.
Luch-5B unlike Luch-5A does not feature the COSPAS/SARSAT antennas on top. Yamal-300K unlike Amos-5 does feature additional antennas on top.
So this time around they are swapping positions. Yamal-300K to 0° first then Luch-5B to an inclined GSO?
http://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/?cid=news&nid=1467 Luch-5V is also to feature COSPAS/SARSAT, so will it sit on top of Kazsat-3 for that launch?
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#24
by
Stan Black
on 28 Oct, 2012 20:56
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Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.
So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?
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#25
by
Satori
on 28 Oct, 2012 21:08
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Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.
So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?
Original Briz-M was 99534 then changed to 99533 and then again to 99534, and finally to 99533 again. I have no information about the arrival dates to Baykonur.
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#26
by
Prober
on 29 Oct, 2012 13:32
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Didn't see this on the ILS site so this must be a gov. launch?
What video link?
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#27
by
russianhalo117
on 29 Oct, 2012 14:38
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Didn't see this on the ILS site so this must be a gov. launch?
What video link?
Yes, it is indeed a federal launch. Realtime video will most likely be through the Center for Ground-Based Space Infrastructure Facilities Operation known as ЦЭНКИ LINK:
http://www.tsenki.com/en/broadcast/ The link for this mission shall become available not long after Progress M-17M launches to ISS).
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#28
by
Artyom.
on 29 Oct, 2012 15:04
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#29
by
Artyom.
on 30 Oct, 2012 09:26
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#30
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 30 Oct, 2012 14:18
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#31
by
anik
on 31 Oct, 2012 08:15
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I was told that the launch is planned at 21:04:00 UTC on November 2nd.
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#32
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 01 Nov, 2012 08:52
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Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....
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#33
by
input~2
on 01 Nov, 2012 17:12
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Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....
As Luch-5A/Amos-5 launch involved just about the same spacecraft masses, I would assume Luch-5B/Yamal-300K will have a comparable launch profile as described
here
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#34
by
Stan Black
on 01 Nov, 2012 18:32
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Anyone got the launch timeline and target orbits data available? It's a pain trying to find them when Khrunichev is silent, the NK forums down while trying to move to a new server and this being a non-ILS launch....
As Luch-5A/Amos-5 launch involved just about the same spacecraft masses, I would assume Luch-5B/Yamal-300K will have a comparable launch profile as described here
Difference probably will be that Yamal-300K will be dropped off 1st in 0° orbit followed by a burn to 5° orbit for Luch-5B - opposite to the Luch-5A/Amos-5.
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#35
by
input~2
on 01 Nov, 2012 18:51
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NOTAMs
K0639/12 - ATS ROUTE SEGMENTS CLSD: 1. A113 TIROK-GISIR FROM 25 KM TO 65 KM 2. B822 LUGER-BETIK FROM 35 KM TO 75 KM SFC/UNL. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2030/2130, 02 NOV 20:30 2012 UNTIL 03 NOV 21:30 2012. CREATED: 31 OCT 11:13 2012
P4366/12 - ATS SEGMENTS CLSD: A814 ARNUL - LANBI B206 ARNUL - AKTAS G489 TELRU - AKTAS. SFC - UNL, DAILY 2030-2130, 02 NOV 20:30 2012 UNTIL 03 NOV 21:30 2012. CREATED: 29 OCT 10:07 2012
A4705/12 - QRDCA THE RUSSIAN FEDERAL SPACE AGENCY HAS PLANNED A MISSILE LAUNCH. DEBRIS FROM THIS LAUNCH WILL FALL WITHIN AN AREA BOUNDED BY 2515N/16000E 2600N/16045E 2330N/16335E 2245N/16248E BACK TO THE POINT OF ORIGIN. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY ALL NON-PARTICIPATING AIR TRAFFIC ARE ADVISED TO AVOID THE NOTAMED AREA. IFR AIRCRAFT UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND THE NOTAMED AREA. SFC - UNL, 2100-2230 DAILY, 02 NOV 21:00 2012 UNTIL 05 NOV 22:30 2012. CREATED: 30 OCT 17:23 2012
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#36
by
input~2
on 01 Nov, 2012 18:54
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#37
by
anik
on 02 Nov, 2012 11:22
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Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
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#38
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 11:26
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Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
Thank you Andrey!
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#39
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 02 Nov, 2012 11:29
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Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
Andrey, do you also got the orbit parameters of each of the orbits following the four Briz-M burns? Thanks!
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#40
by
anik
on 02 Nov, 2012 12:10
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Briz-M fifth burn - 08:37:20-08:37:35
Briz-M sixth burn - 08:44:30-08:46:10
Yamal-300K planned initial orbit: 35792.9x35793.1 km, 0.0045 deg
Luch-5B planned initial orbit: 35793.0x35821.7 km, 0.023 deg
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#41
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 12:49
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Moved for live coverage...
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#42
by
xm11
on 02 Nov, 2012 16:06
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web cam launch proton work now
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#43
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Stan Black
on 02 Nov, 2012 16:12
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Briz-M fifth burn - 08:37:20-08:37:35
Briz-M sixth burn - 08:44:30-08:46:10
Yamal-300K planned initial orbit: 35792.9x35793.1 km, 0.0045 deg
Luch-5B planned initial orbit: 35793.0x35821.7 km, 0.023 deg
Those last two are just using the low thrust engines and are for disposal?
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#44
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 16:28
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web cam launch proton work now
So soon! Live from Baikonur...
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#45
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 16:50
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At this time the launch pad is cleared of all non-essential personal. It will be reopen at T-2h 30m.
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#46
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 17:35
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T-2h 30m at this time the launch pad re-opens for final closeouts.
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#47
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 18:06
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T-2h All personnel should be in their final positions for launch.
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#48
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 18:20
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Next major event on the countdown and launch preparations will be the rollback of the Mobile Service Tower that starts at T-1h.
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#49
by
patchfree
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:05
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For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
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#50
by
Art LeBrun
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:07
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For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
Spaceflight Now...........
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#51
by
Gorizont
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:10
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#52
by
patchfree
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:11
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For me the live video links from Tsenki and/or Roscosmos badly works...
No other link?
Spaceflight Now...........
Thanks.
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#53
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:21
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Rollback of the Mobile Service Tower was done without problems.
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#54
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:22
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At T-45m LV final countdown activities commence. Propulsion system GO signal is generated by the LV GN&C GLSTE. Countdown display system remote units are synchronized to the master CD clock.
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#55
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:25
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#56
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:29
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T-35m LV GN&C GLSTE arms the launch abort systems. Readiness green indicator light illuminates on the launch abort unit front panel. Two redundant displays on the launch abort unit are synchronized to the CD clock and start countdown. SC launch unit abort switch is active.
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#57
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:33
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#58
by
Gorizont
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:42
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Good luck Proton and Briz-M for this flight!
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#59
by
edkyle99
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:51
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#60
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:54
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#61
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 19:59
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T-5m LV GN&C GLSTE sends a T-300 sec command signal to the Breeze M GN&C GLSTE to synchronize the lift-off time. Breeze M begins transfer to internal power.
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#62
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:02
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T-120 seconds... LV GN&C begins transfer to internal power. Breeze M completes transfer to internal power, sends “BREEZE M GO” signal to LV GN&C GLSTE.
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#63
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:02
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At T-3.1s the LV GN&C GLSTE performs a final GO/NO-GO check of the LV, Breeze M and SC. If all the integrated LV components are GO, the first stage ignition sequence start is sent at the estimated time.
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#64
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:03
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Lift-off contact signal received at T~0 (approximately T+2.49 ms). If at T+40 s the lift-off contact signal is not received, the Breeze M systems begin transfer to ground
power.
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#65
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:04
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#66
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:05
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...and into the clouds!
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#67
by
Gorizont
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:05
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Liftoff!
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#68
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:05
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#69
by
Star One
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:05
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Liftoff rather caught me out as there was no sound on the Spaceflight Now streaming, or not for me anyway.
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#70
by
edkyle99
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:06
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#71
by
patchfree
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:06
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But no sound to follow the next events...
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#72
by
Prober
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:07
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#73
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:08
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If everything is going according to plan we already had Stage 2 ignition and Stage 1 / 2 separation.
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#74
by
Prober
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:09
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hope that Luch gets into the right orbit
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#75
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:10
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Stage 3 vernier engine ignition must be taking place by now, followed by the Stage 2 engine shutdown and then Stage 2 / 3 separation, followed by Stage 3 main engine ignition.
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#76
by
Gorizont
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:10
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The sound.... we will find it in the lift-off-videos... I hope.
I also had no sound, but I have a very low connection.
greetings...
Soeren
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#77
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:11
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Payload fairing must already been jettisoned.
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#78
by
patchfree
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:12
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I suppose it is a long lasting mission?
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#79
by
Prober
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:12
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The sound.... we will find it in the lift-off-videos... I hope.
I also had no sound, but I have a very low connection.
greetings...
Soeren
most of the time all i get is the rotating flash loading. Takes the fun out of a launch.
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#80
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:12
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#81
by
Star One
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:13
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But no sound to follow the next events...
Just a picture of an empty launch pad.
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#82
by
patchfree
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:13
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And as usual, some small fires at the pad.
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#83
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:13
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Liftoff - 21:04:00 UTC
Briz-M separation - 21:13:42
Briz-M first burn - 21:15:16-21:19:22
Briz-M second burn - 22:11:28-22:29:10
Briz-M third burn - 00:32:57-00:50:49
APT separation - 00:52:10
Briz-M fourth burn - 05:52:17-06:05:40
Yamal-300K separation - 06:18
Luch-5B separation - 06:33
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#84
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:14
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Briz-M with the cargo must have separated by now.
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#85
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:16
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At this time the Briz-M should be making its first burn.
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#86
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:22
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#87
by
Gorizont
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:24
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Connection to spaceflightnow was canceled.
So I think, also the rocket has reached its orbit.
greetings...
Soeren
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#88
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:26
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#89
by
Prober
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:28
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The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.
Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm
that is a very good page thx..
this is why I've been very interested...
Appointment of SC "Luch-5B"
"Обмен информацией различного вида, в том числе телевизионной - с АКА и ПКА, в первую очередь с Российским сегментом МКС; Exchange of information of various types, including television - with ACA and PCA, especially with the Russian segment of the ISS;
Ретрансляция информации целевого назначения от НКА; Relaying information from the special purpose satellite; "
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#90
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:31
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I suppose it is a long lasting mission?
Remember that this is a 9h 30m mission! The next Briz-M burn will take place at 2211UTC.
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#91
by
Prober
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:36
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maybe someone can answer this...
if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.
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#92
by
Art LeBrun
on 02 Nov, 2012 20:59
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Smoking launch pad...
How much is smoke and how much is DUST? (Zenit really seems to raise dust).
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#93
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 21:09
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Smoking launch pad...
How much is smoke and how much is DUST? (Zenit really seems to raise dust).
I think its all smoke. The picture was taken almost 10 minutes after launch and dust does not rises that way.
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#94
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 21:11
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The second Briz-M burn must have already started...
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#95
by
Satori
on 02 Nov, 2012 21:31
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The second Briz-M burn should have ended by now.
The third Briz-M burn will take place at 0032UTC on November 3.
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#96
by
Targeteer
on 02 Nov, 2012 22:56
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maybe someone can answer this...
if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.
I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the US Ku band system is compatible with the Luch system or would be used by NASA even if it was. The Kibo module has a high data rate link but I don't think it's used by NASA. I'd be curious to see what if any cameras are on the Russian segment (inside or out) to provide video right now. Video from Russian spacewalks is via USOS exterior cameras and US provided helmet cams. Even the video from the Russian segment of new crew arrivals is done via cameras run from the US segment.
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#97
by
Chris Bergin
on 02 Nov, 2012 23:14
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Thanks Rui. Missed this one!
Thanks for covering guys!
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#98
by
Prober
on 03 Nov, 2012 00:12
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Thanks Rui. Missed this one! Thanks for covering guys!
the real good stuff might be when they get into the right orbit.
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#99
by
mtakala24
on 03 Nov, 2012 00:18
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yeah, these goverment launches are very similar to the USAF EELV launches. Which is understandable
Hopefully they'll release a statement of success by the time I wake up tomorrow.
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#100
by
Prober
on 03 Nov, 2012 00:19
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maybe someone can answer this...
if Luch-5b was installed and operating during yesterdays EVA we could have had video in one area.
I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the US Ku band system is compatible with the Luch system or would be used by NASA even if it was. The Kibo module has a high data rate link but I don't think it's used by NASA. I'd be curious to see what if any cameras are on the Russian segment (inside or out) to provide video right now. Video from Russian spacewalks is via USOS exterior cameras and US provided helmet cams. Even the video from the Russian segment of new crew arrivals is done via cameras run from the US segment.
kinda hope this will be part of it...
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25674.0
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#101
by
jcm
on 03 Nov, 2012 01:14
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Space-Track has two orbits for the stack
2012-61A object 38977
263 x 4996 km x 50.29 deg
390 x 35827 km x 48.68 deg
so, so far so good with 4 hours to go till the next burn at apogee
At this writing the stack is ascending through 20000 km
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#102
by
Artyom.
on 03 Nov, 2012 04:26
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#103
by
Artyom.
on 03 Nov, 2012 04:34
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#104
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:00
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The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.
Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm
The figure at the bottom of this page seems to have a misprint concerning Luch-5B orbital position; AFAIU it should be 16°W as mentionned on top of the page not 95°E (Luch-5A is now occupying 95°E)
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#105
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:10
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The first Briz-M burn must have ended at 2119UTC.
Some information about this launch on the TsUP page at http://www.mcc.rsa.ru/luch_5b.htm
The figure at the bottom of this page seems to have a misprint concerning Luch-5B orbital position; AFAIU it should be 16°W as mentionned on top of the page not 95°E (Luch-5A is now occupying 95°E)
I think this is an older (pre-late 2011) plan, now with Luch-4 cancelled (re-oriented to a different project, with a new Luch-5V as a replacement) and Luch-5A/B swapping orbital slots....
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#106
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:19
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Yamal-300K should have separated by now...
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#107
by
spectre9
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:23
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How did Briz-M do?
The anxious wait
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#108
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:33
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#109
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:36
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#110
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:39
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#111
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:46
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#112
by
spectre9
on 03 Nov, 2012 05:47
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Good news. Thanks for that
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#113
by
rds100
on 03 Nov, 2012 06:09
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#114
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 06:31
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#115
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 06:33
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Luch-5B antennas should deploy at 0933UTC
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#116
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 08:50
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#117
by
gwiz
on 03 Nov, 2012 10:49
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Luch-5B unlike Luch-5A does not feature the COSPAS/SARSAT antennas on top. Yamal-300K unlike Amos-5 does feature additional antennas on top.
Does that mean antennas relocated to elsewhere on the satellite or no SARSAT system on board?
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#118
by
input~2
on 03 Nov, 2012 11:43
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#119
by
jcm
on 03 Nov, 2012 18:50
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Object 38977 now appears to be the DTB drop tank, still being tracked today in transfer orbit - no tracking of the payloads or Briz-M yet
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#120
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 05 Nov, 2012 09:30
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http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y
(...)
Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.
I don't understand... Gazprom Space Systems built the payload by its own ?? Don't you find this quite surprising ? I can't imagine that this unexperienced company could reach the same level as Thales Alenia Space, or others...
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#121
by
360-180
on 05 Nov, 2012 14:18
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#122
by
Danderman
on 05 Nov, 2012 14:19
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http://www.gascom.ru/en/news/events/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=1910&print=Y
(...)
Yamal-300K payload is designed by Gazprom Space Systems, its acceptance test was performed in November 2011.
I don't understand... Gazprom Space Systems built the payload by its own ?? Don't you find this quite surprising ? I can't imagine that this unexperienced company could reach the same level as Thales Alenia Space, or others...
The key here is that the "payload" was designed by Gazprom Space Systems, not the satellite. And "payload design" could mean many things, one of them not being "assembly of the payload".
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#123
by
Stan Black
on 05 Nov, 2012 19:53
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#124
by
input~2
on 06 Nov, 2012 05:33
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Exactly 3 days after spacecraft separations, USSTRATCOM doesn't seem to track publicly either of them
Let's see if something will be published to-day!
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#125
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 06 Nov, 2012 08:19
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#126
by
Prober
on 08 Nov, 2012 15:30
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any updates on the Luch system going into operation?
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#127
by
input~2
on 10 Nov, 2012 15:37
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Apparently USSTRATCOM has reserved 4 catalog numbers for in-orbit objects from this launch, ie 38977 to 38980.
For the time being only the Briz-M tank (38977) is publicly tracked.
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#128
by
jcm
on 28 Nov, 2012 03:55
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Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day
My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.
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#129
by
input~2
on 28 Nov, 2012 07:38
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Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day
My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.
We'll know if 38977 is Luch-5B if it stops at 16°W around December 6
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#130
by
jcm
on 28 Nov, 2012 22:46
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Finally, Nov 27, we see US tracking data for two of the high orbit objects
38977 in 35921 x 36085 km x 0.2 deg over 12.9E moving 2 deg W per day
38978 in 35607 x 35826 km x 0.2 deg over 87.9E moving 0.9 deg E per day
My tentative guess is that 38978 is Yamal, 38977 is the Briz-M, and the Luch is still missing.
The drop tank previously tracked as 38977 is now 38979.
We'll know if 38977 is Luch-5B if it stops at 16°W around December 6
Ah, my bad, I forgot Luch 5B was going to the west slot. OK, so 38977 is probably Luch then, fair enough
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#131
by
Stan Black
on 20 Jul, 2013 14:01
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Yes, for Intelsat-23 and Luch-5B/Yamal-300K. But if I have understood correctly these upper stages will be returned to Moscow. Other upper stages will be used for these launches.
So what was the serial number of the original Briz-M for Yamal-300K/Luch-5B, and when was a replacement delivered?
Original Briz-M was 99534 then changed to 99533 and then again to 99534, and finally to 99533 again. I have no information about the arrival dates to Baykonur.
http://www.gazprom-spacesystems.ru/ru/news/publications/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=2142«Новости космонавтики»
01.2013
А. Красильников
После этого Роскосмос принял решение детально перепроверить произведенные «Бризы-М»: №99528 и №99533, находившиеся на космодроме, а также №99534 и №99535, пребывавшие в Центре Хруничева. На это потребовалось время. В результате 14 октября на «Протоне-М» первым после аварии полетел спутник Intelsat 23. Причем для его запуска использовался «Бриз-М» №99534, доставленный на Байконур 21 сентября, а не №99528, хранившийся в МИКе площадки 92А. А вот «Луч-5Б» и «Ямал-300К», как изначально планировалось, отправились на орбиту на блоке №99533.
Как сообщил НК заместитель директора Завода по эксплуатации ракетно-космической техники Центра Хруничева по летно-испытательной базе «Байконур» Леонид Горюшкин, «Бризы-М» №99528 и №99533 были подвергнуты специальной проверке прямо в МИКе площадки 92А.
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#132
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 20 Jul, 2013 14:24
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Transition of information :
Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF
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#133
by
Stan Black
on 20 Jul, 2013 14:44
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Transition of information :
Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF
Yes it can be a little problematic finding the original source of information!
I posted the same information on three threads just to provide clarity.
It does look like that here on NSF we knew that the two Briz were modified at Baikonur, not returned to Khrunichev, and we new the serial numbers and delivery dates. You know, I always thought that NK was
the source of information, but you are now making me believe that they sourced their information from NSF!
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#134
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 20 Jul, 2013 16:20
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Transition of information :
Rui -> NSF -> anik -> NK -> Gazprom -> Stan -> NSF
Yes it can be a little problematic finding the original source of information!
I posted the same information on three threads just to provide clarity.
It does look like that here on NSF we knew that the two Briz were modified at Baikonur, not returned to Khrunichev, and we new the serial numbers and delivery dates. You know, I always thought that NK was the source of information, but you are now making me believe that they sourced their information from NSF!
This is an exception. Believe me, I read NK every month, and they are THE source for Russian Space !
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#135
by
Danderman
on 16 Dec, 2013 02:40
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any updates on the Luch system going into operation?
Bump.
Thanks for covering guys!
