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Rokot launch with three Kosmos satellites - January 15, 2013
by
anik
on 26 May, 2012 07:32
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The launch of Rokot rocket with Briz-KM upper stage and three Kosmos satellites from pad 133/3 of Plesetsk cosmodrome is planned on August 17th.
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by
anik
on 28 May, 2012 08:13
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According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on August 24th.
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#2
by
anik
on 30 Jun, 2012 11:22
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According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on September 14th.
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#3
by
Danderman
on 25 Oct, 2012 05:04
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According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on September 14th.
Did I miss this one?
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#4
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 25 Oct, 2012 05:06
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According to Novosti kosmonavtiki forum, the launch is planned on September 14th.
Did I miss this one?
Nope, the Russian schedule thread now shows that the launch is planned on November 29th.
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#5
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 03 Dec, 2012 10:08
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NOTAM:
V9137/12 -
1. DANGER AREA ULD2 ACT.
2. DANGER AREA ACT: CIRCLE OF RADIUS 50KM CENTRED 7424N 05307E.
SFC - UNL, DAILY 2015-2115, 07 DEC 20:15 2012 UNTIL
08 DEC 21:15 2012.
CREATED: 03 DEC 08:05 2012http://www.zarya.info/blog/?p=426
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#6
by
anik
on 06 Dec, 2012 09:06
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The launch has been postponed by few weeks due to problems with control system of Briz-KM upper stage.
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#7
by
anik
on 06 Dec, 2012 10:34
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I was told the launch is delayed to January 15.
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#8
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 11 Jan, 2013 08:25
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Launch time seems to be around 16:15 UTC.
V0065/13 - TEMPO DANGER AREA ACT WI RADIUS 50KM CENTRED ON 7424N 05307E. SFC - UNL, DAILY 1600-1710, 15 JAN 16:00 2013 UNTIL 16 JAN 17:10 2013. CREATED: 11 JAN 09:23 2013
V0064/13 - DANGER AREA ACT: ULD2. SFC - UNL, DAILY 1600-1710, 15 JAN 16:00 2013 UNTIL 16 JAN 17:10 2013. CREATED: 11 JAN 09:18 2013
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#9
by
Satori
on 11 Jan, 2013 08:43
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This will be Rokot (4926391831) and Briz-KM (72518).
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#10
by
anik
on 14 Jan, 2013 08:00
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Liftoff - 16:24 UTC
Briz-KM separation - 16:31 UTC
Satellites separation - 18:09 UTC
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#11
by
anik
on 15 Jan, 2013 15:27
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The launch was on-time - at 16:24:59 UTC (as per my source).
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#12
by
Artyom.
on 15 Jan, 2013 15:27
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#13
by
anik
on 15 Jan, 2013 15:59
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Briz-KM upper stage with three Rodnik-S satellites has separated from the second stage of Rokot rocket at 16:30 UTC, as per
http://www.interfax.ru/news.asp?id=285329.
Separation of satellites is planned at 18:09 UTC.
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#14
by
Skyrocket
on 15 Jan, 2013 16:45
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Does anyone know, what the difference between the Rodnik-S and the earlier Rodnik is?
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#15
by
anik
on 15 Jan, 2013 16:59
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Does anyone know, what the difference between the Rodnik-S and the earlier Rodnik is?
If I understood correctly, previous three satellites (2005, 2009, 2010) were Rodnik-S (14F132) too.
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#16
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 15 Jan, 2013 17:24
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#17
by
Liss
on 15 Jan, 2013 18:00
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Nothing at space-track.org yet.
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#18
by
Liss
on 15 Jan, 2013 19:18
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First elements set for object #39057. Seems to be a nice circular orbit.
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#19
by
Zipi
on 15 Jan, 2013 21:28
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#20
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 16 Jan, 2013 01:58
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#21
by
jcm
on 16 Jan, 2013 04:13
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All four objects (Rodniks and Briz-KM) now cataloged
39057 1476 x 1502 km x 82.5 deg
39058 1478 x 1501 km x 82.5 deg
39059 1480 x 1503 km x 82.5
39060 1487 x 1504 km x 82.5
so launch success confirmed.
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#22
by
bolun
on 16 Jan, 2013 15:36
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01/15/2013
Rockot Places Three Russian Satellites into Orbit
On January 15, 2013 a Rockot launch vehicle using a Breeze-KM upper stage successfully launched three military communication satellites into orbit. The launch took place at Plesetsk Cosmodrome in Northern Russia. All satellites were injected precisely into their target orbit. This first launch of a Rockot in 2013 will be followed by further Russian federal launches as well as the combined launch of three Swarm satellites by Eurockot Launch Services this year.
http://www.eurockot.com/2013/01/rockot-places-three-russian-satellites-into-orbit/
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#23
by
Star One
on 16 Jan, 2013 17:20
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What the heck is all that orange smoke coming around it, doesn't look healthy?
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#24
by
russianhalo117
on 16 Jan, 2013 17:37
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What the heck is all that orange smoke coming around it, doesn't look healthy?
its normal around the ignition and early launch portion of the flight. It is un-ignited propellant and is a common site for hypergolic boosters.
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#25
by
Star One
on 16 Jan, 2013 17:58
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What the heck is all that orange smoke coming around it, doesn't look healthy?
its normal around the ignition and early launch portion of the flight. It is un-ignited propellant and is a common site for hypergolic boosters.
Thanks. I don't remember seeing anything quite so orange on other launchers, is it something that comes from the fact that it is converted ICBM?
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#26
by
russianhalo117
on 16 Jan, 2013 20:58
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What the heck is all that orange smoke coming around it, doesn't look healthy?
its normal around the ignition and early launch portion of the flight. It is un-ignited propellant and is a common site for hypergolic boosters.
Thanks. I don't remember seeing anything quite so orange on other launchers, is it something that comes from the fact that it is converted ICBM?
it partly has to do with fact that Rockot still uses its silo launch tube above ground and that there is not a flame trench for deflection so it just kind of hangs around. You will see it with Proton to if you watch the flame trench cameras when ignition occurs.
Also Rockot is from UR Booster family in the UR-100 subfamily and uses the same fuel and oxidizer.
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#27
by
orbitaldebris
on 17 Jan, 2013 08:58
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39057 1476 x 1502 km x 82.5 deg
39058 1478 x 1501 km x 82.5 deg
39059 1480 x 1503 km x 82.5
39060 1487 x 1504 km x 82.5
so launch success confirmed.
In all four previous Rokot (Strela-3) launches, the Briz-KM ended up in an orbit with a lower perigee. Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
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#28
by
anik
on 17 Jan, 2013 09:35
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Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
Yes.
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#29
by
Skyrocket
on 17 Jan, 2013 09:44
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Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
Yes.
Mission successful completed, but nevertheless a Briz failure... No good news.
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#30
by
Prober
on 17 Jan, 2013 11:21
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Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
Yes.
Mission successful completed, but nevertheless a Briz failure... No good news.
Not a very good start for 2013.
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#31
by
Satori
on 17 Jan, 2013 13:07
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Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
Yes.
Mission successful completed, but nevertheless a Briz failure... No good news.
Not a very good start for 2013.
If the mission was successful with the three satellites placed on the correct orbits, why is this not a very good start for 2013?
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#32
by
Skyrocket
on 17 Jan, 2013 13:52
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Did the Briz fail to perform a depletion burn this time I wonder?
Yes.
Mission successful completed, but nevertheless a Briz failure... No good news.
Not a very good start for 2013.
If the mission was successful with the three satellites placed on the correct orbits, why is this not a very good start for 2013?
Because the failure to reignite for deorbit shows, that there is still something wrong with the Briz stage. This will certainly lead to more delays for the return to flight of the Proton-Briz-combination.
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#33
by
orbitaldebris
on 17 Jan, 2013 14:23
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There's also the possibility of another Briz explosion. Unvented Briz-stages have a tendency to explode and this time the high perigee would mean long-lasting debris.
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#34
by
Stan Black
on 17 Jan, 2013 16:53
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The withdrawl is by high-pressue tanks and the four 11D458?
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#35
by
Danderman
on 17 Jan, 2013 17:14
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The withdrawl is by high-pressue tanks and the four 11D458?
Let me translate this into a question about the final burn being performed not by the main engine, but by the 4 small thrusters that are fed by the high pressure tanks. IIRC, the 4 small thrusters are the same as is used on FGB and MLM, and have a good reliability record; if the perigee drop burn failed due these thrusters not firing, it will be difficult to pinpoint the problem.
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#36
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 17 Jan, 2013 18:20
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IIRC, the 4 small thrusters are the same as is used on FGB and MLM
Yes, you remember correctly !
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#37
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 17 Jan, 2013 19:08
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#38
by
jcm
on 17 Jan, 2013 22:55
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Is it really known that a perigee lowering burn would have took place? There is a chance that this launch almost reached the maximum capability of the rocket.......
Oh and this really cool video caught the huge fume of reddish hydrazine+N2O4 firing off as the rocket lifted off! http://tvzvezda.ru/news/nocomment/content/pusk_rakety-nositelya_43rokot59_kamera_1601.html
All 4 previous multiple-Strela launches to this orbit did make a burn to lower perigee to 1200 km. The last one with the extra Yubilyeniy payload should have had at least the payload requirements of this one, so I don't think it's plausible to think that the mission didn't plan one.
However, if for some reason the engine was less efficient than usual it's possible depletion was achieved - which would still be bad news for Briz flights but better from the debris-time-bomb perspective, so it's important to know *why* there was no extra burn.
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#39
by
Danderman
on 17 Jan, 2013 23:52
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What we don't know is whether the depletion burns are generated by the main engine to empty the main prop tanks, or the small thrusters to deplete the high pressure tanks.
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#40
by
patchfree
on 18 Jan, 2013 17:11
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Knowing if Briz-KM failed for a final deorbiting burn will not be easy. And more difficult due to the military nature of the mission. But if a final failure accured "leaks" from unofficial sources in russian space industry will tell us in the next days.
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#41
by
Star One
on 19 Jan, 2013 19:10
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What the heck is all that orange smoke coming around it, doesn't look healthy?
its normal around the ignition and early launch portion of the flight. It is un-ignited propellant and is a common site for hypergolic boosters.
Thanks. I don't remember seeing anything quite so orange on other launchers, is it something that comes from the fact that it is converted ICBM?
it partly has to do with fact that Rockot still uses its silo launch tube above ground and that there is not a flame trench for deflection so it just kind of hangs around. You will see it with Proton to if you watch the flame trench cameras when ignition occurs.
Also Rockot is from UR Booster family in the UR-100 subfamily and uses the same fuel and oxidizer.
Thanks for that explanation.
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#42
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Nicolas PILLET
on 24 Jan, 2013 04:51
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#43
by
Skyrocket
on 24 Jan, 2013 09:09
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#44
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 24 Jan, 2013 15:50
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#45
by
Lewis007
on 25 Jan, 2013 07:29
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#46
by
Skyrocket
on 25 Jan, 2013 08:23
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#47
by
Nicolas PILLET
on 25 Jan, 2013 08:59
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Since the launch was at 16h25 GMT, it was a night launch.
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#48
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 27 Feb, 2013 17:49
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Sounds like the Russians have confirmed that something went wrong with the retro-burn of the Briz-KM, as they have delayed the next Rokot launch to June because of "launch vehicle problems":
hhttp://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/5023/
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#49
by
Lewis007
on 05 Apr, 2013 06:47
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#50
by
Skyrocket
on 23 May, 2013 08:58
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Sounds like the Russians have confirmed that something went wrong with the retro-burn of the Briz-KM, as they have delayed the next Rokot launch to June because of "launch vehicle problems": hhttp://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/news/5023/
According to Izvestia, the satellites did not reach the intended orbit and only two of the three Rodnik-satellites could be activated while the third is considered a loss.
http://izvestia.ru/news/550252
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#51
by
owais.usmani
on 23 May, 2013 09:33
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#52
by
William Graham
on 23 May, 2013 11:23
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I had a look at their orbits on Heavens Above; in terms of apogee, perigee and inclination they look fine compared to other Rodnik satellites launched. Jonathan's SATCAT shows the Briz-KM in a comparable orbit, so if a failure occurred I doubt it affected the satellites' orbits.
If one of the satellites "couldn't be activated", that would suggest a spacecraft problem rather than a launch problem. If the Briz failed I strongly suspect it was between s/c sep and a disposal burn.
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#53
by
Skyrocket
on 23 May, 2013 11:31
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At closer look, the problem is more on Izvestia's journalism
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#54
by
anik
on 23 May, 2013 11:42
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Kosmos-2483 have not yet performed maneuvers unlike Kosmos-2482 and Kosmos-2484.
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#55
by
russianhalo117
on 25 May, 2013 02:34
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Kosmos-2483 have not yet performed maneuvers unlike Kosmos-2482 and Kosmos-2484.
Is it possibly failed or do you think it might not be going to the similar location as the others.
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#56
by
anik
on 25 May, 2013 05:43
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Is it possibly failed or do you think it might not be going to the similar location as the others
It possibly failed because the Russian MoD possibly can not control it after dirty separation from Briz-KM and followed tumbling.
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#57
by
Stan Black
on 25 May, 2013 06:12
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Is it possibly failed or do you think it might not be going to the similar location as the others
It possibly failed because the Russian MoD possibly can not control it after dirty separation from Briz-KM and followed tumbling.
Did the Briz-KM also tumble; why it did not perform final manoeuvre?
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#58
by
russianhalo117
on 05 Jun, 2013 16:18
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Is it possibly failed or do you think it might not be going to the similar location as the others
It possibly failed because the Russian MoD possibly can not control it after dirty separation from Briz-KM and followed tumbling.
Did the Briz-KM also tumble; why it did not perform final manoeuvre?
Briz-KM shortly after sep went into a safe mode and did not execute de orbit burn or the CCAM maneuver. That is only information I have come across so far, but it is main source of Rockot delays besides SC issues for upcoming missions this year.
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#59
by
jcm
on 06 Aug, 2013 03:34
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#60
by
edkyle99
on 08 Aug, 2013 17:26
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#61
by
russianhalo117
on 09 Aug, 2013 22:29
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Still no orbit change for Kosmos-2483, clearly dead.
Rokot to resume launches:
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130806/182596006/Russia-to-Resume-Rokot-Launches-in-September.html
According to this report, one of the satellites was lost due to a problem with Briz KM. So do we have a launch failure here, a problem that cropped up during final spacecraft separation?
- Ed Kyle
I have heard partial failure since two of the three separated nominally and burned to their final orbits. Briz-KM on this mission failed to perform CCAM maneuver and de orbit. TEL for Briz-KM was lost early if I remember correctly. I think it is mentioned by anik above.
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#62
by
edkyle99
on 11 Aug, 2013 13:42
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Still no orbit change for Kosmos-2483, clearly dead.
Rokot to resume launches:
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20130806/182596006/Russia-to-Resume-Rokot-Launches-in-September.html
According to this report, one of the satellites was lost due to a problem with Briz KM. So do we have a launch failure here, a problem that cropped up during final spacecraft separation?
- Ed Kyle
I have heard partial failure since two of the three separated nominally and burned to their final orbits. Briz-KM on this mission failed to perform CCAM maneuver and de orbit. TEL for Briz-KM was lost early if I remember correctly. I think it is mentioned by anik above.
A partial mission failure due to the one dead satellite, yes, but was that caused by a problem with the launch vehicle itself? The Briz KM stage seems to have inserted the satellite into the proper orbit, which would usually be considered a launch vehicle success regardless of the subsequent deorbit burn issue, but then both the satellite and the stage stopped working. Did they collide? Was there a problem during spacecraft separation? Etc.
- Ed Kyle
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#63
by
owais.usmani
on 12 Aug, 2013 18:16
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#64
by
jcm
on 24 Aug, 2013 04:04
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http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2253573
Need some one who can read russian to verify if they are saying that all 3 are in nominal operation......?
Says that the three sats were not in the intended orbit but only close to it..
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However according to a senior official of detachment B of the VKO staff, the satellites functioning is not affected "One satellite, which incorrectly was said to be lost, after insertion and had to be put on station (?), the two others - separated in different directions.
.Now they are all operating nominally in the interests of the GRU". The booster contractor Khrunichev ... corrected deficiencies in the control system.
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Very interesting - so maybe bad attitude control in the last seconds of the burn and the deployment sequence messed up. Also interesting for the explicit statement that the payloads are for the GRU главного разведуправления
- Jonathan
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#65
by
Danderman
on 24 Nov, 2013 13:09
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So .... how did this one end up, three live satellites in slightly off-nominal orbits, or two live sats and one dead sat?
