The main thrust of the video was to compare and contrast Dr. Griffin to the successes of SpaceX in spite of what he has testified to, and others like him.
Quote from: Lars_J on 06/01/2012 07:57 pmAndrew - the video would probably be improved by showing shots of the astronauts opening and unloading Dragon. (the literal laundry delivery) Great job, though.We agree Lars... This was our first video and we did rush on this a little. The main thrust of the video was to compare and contrast Dr. Griffin to the successes of SpaceX in spite of what he has testified to, and others like him. We feel we met that objective.However, this video is bigger than SpaceX. I cannot wait to do a video like this on Sierra Nevada... or even... dare I say... ATK.SpaceX was first, but I would submit all of the commercial providers were riding with Falcon 9 and Dragon. Everyone gained from COT 2+ in my estimation.Luckily for us... there will be more awesome missions and Depeche Mode has a lot of songs that will really "Drive it Home". Respectfully,Andrew GasserTEA Party in SpacePS If you haven't already, I would sincerely hope you all swing by our website and sign up for our newsletter. It is non-partisan and we are going to be doing some amazing things soon.
Andrew - the video would probably be improved by showing shots of the astronauts opening and unloading Dragon. (the literal laundry delivery) Great job, though.
Remember what happens when politics get thrown over here.Party thread, so no moderation, but this is not an excuse for politics. So the point (a good one) has been made, and now this is line. No politics after this post please.
Quote from: punder on 06/01/2012 04:05 pmThe TPIS vidio juxtaposing Griffin quotes with SpaceX successes is hilarious. Too bad about the typo in the title screen.My impression is that COTS was a political "bone" thrown by Griffin while he concentrated on Apollo-on-you-know-what. I don't think he actually expected all the entrants to fail, but Constellation was 99% of his ballgame and COTS was a tiny little sideshow.Wow, that's a lot of metaphors, but you see what I mean.This has been gnawed to death, but it still blows my mind how a really, really smart guy can make such a huge and destructive mistake. It happened to my company--new CEO of the parent company comes in, gets momentarily frakked at the top management of our company (which was the cash cow for the whole operation) and summarily fires them. They go form a new company that is now our dangerous competitor, and they know their stuff. Meanwhile, parent-company board realizes CEO is an (starts with i, ends with t, has dio in the middle), so he's gone. But he's left a catastrophe behind him. Same with Griffin.At the time, I thought Griffin was a perfect choice. Shame on me.I do believe that he fully intended for the entrants to fail, and yes it was a political bone. The purpose was basically to distract congress and the president by making it look as if everything was fine, so that he and his buddies in Alabama could continue what in my mind amounts to criminally negligent thuggery and keep firing and shutting up anyone with a grain of common sense in the agency. It still boggles my mind to this date that there was not a congressional investigation into Griffin's activities specifically in addition to the Augustine commission, a legal investigation that is, as well as one into Senator Shelby's office. Someone should have gone to jail for what happened, after all griffin essentially lied to congress on multiple occasions as did the senator from Alabama.As for the CEO analogy that is a really good comparison, but there is one major difference I think, and that is that Griffin was not an inaccurate, just a maniac. He knew full well what it was he wanted and how to get it, and he didn't care if it worked or not he wanted what he wanted and by god he was going to get it. What he really wanted was to be called the next Von Braun, that was the whole point of building "Apollo on steroids". It was a quest for personal glory basically. Like I said, maniac. But not stupid. I think that's the main difference. But I do admit he made a number of bone-headed statements and decisions in the process
The TPIS vidio juxtaposing Griffin quotes with SpaceX successes is hilarious. Too bad about the typo in the title screen.My impression is that COTS was a political "bone" thrown by Griffin while he concentrated on Apollo-on-you-know-what. I don't think he actually expected all the entrants to fail, but Constellation was 99% of his ballgame and COTS was a tiny little sideshow.Wow, that's a lot of metaphors, but you see what I mean.This has been gnawed to death, but it still blows my mind how a really, really smart guy can make such a huge and destructive mistake. It happened to my company--new CEO of the parent company comes in, gets momentarily frakked at the top management of our company (which was the cash cow for the whole operation) and summarily fires them. They go form a new company that is now our dangerous competitor, and they know their stuff. Meanwhile, parent-company board realizes CEO is an (starts with i, ends with t, has dio in the middle), so he's gone. But he's left a catastrophe behind him. Same with Griffin.At the time, I thought Griffin was a perfect choice. Shame on me.
I cannot wait to do a video like this on Sierra Nevada... or even... dare I say... ATK.
Guys please. I don't wish to be a mini-mod but Chris has clearly stated this is a Party thread and not a debate thread.Meaning, Kool Aid and Ponies are freely given out to all. even Jim gets a pony this time around.
Thankyou Alpha for posting the photo of Dragon with Old Glory flying next to it. When I looked at Old Glory flying there, it reminded be of the famous photo of Old Glory on the moon.SpaceX and NASA has given us all a lot to celebrate in the coming days. Even though today is SpaceX's day, we should also recognize that there are other fine companies out there that are working very hard to extend our reach again to LEO and beyond.My hat is off to all of you involved in extending our reach beyond Earth.
Did we ever find out what the special cargo was?
Not everyone was in a congratulatory mood, though. "The reality remains that SpaceX has spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to launch a rocket nearly three years later than planned," Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) told the Huntsville Times. "The ‘private’ space race is off to a dilatory start at best, and the commercial space flight market has yet to materialize." ...
From:http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/05/28/congressional-and-other-reaction-to-the-spacex-dragon-berthing/QuoteNot everyone was in a congratulatory mood, though. "The reality remains that SpaceX has spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to launch a rocket nearly three years later than planned," Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) told the Huntsville Times. "The ‘private’ space race is off to a dilatory start at best, and the commercial space flight market has yet to materialize." ...Well.A related reality concerns the billions of dollars wasted on Ares. With this remark, I'd say that Mr. Nelson has made clear that his preference is to be part of the problem, and not part of the solution.
