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Offline punder

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1460 on: 05/30/2012 11:11 pm »
NASA, rightly perhaps from their view, wanted nothing to do with space tourists--i.e., ordinary people--and I distinctly remember how the space station crew members warmly hugged all the arriving astronauts, except for Dennis Tito, who got a lukewarm handshake and turned backs.

Slightly OT, but is there video of this?

Haven't found it yet, but I did find a couple of quotes:

http://video.answers.com/learn-about-the-first-space-tourist-dennis-tito-311597050
"Although the flight went very smoothly, reception at the ISS was a little cooler than usual, in part because NASA doesn’t support the idea of space tourism."

http://news.yahoo.com/10-years-ago-dennis-tito-became-first-space-205800512.html
"Tito's trip was not without controversy, primarily due to opposition from NASA, which was decidedly cool to the whole idea of commercial space flight at the time. Then-NASA administrator Dan Goldin was not pleased by the visit of a paying customer to the ISS. Former astronaut and Sen. John Glenn denounced the Tito space trip. Tito is said to have gotten a rather cool reception on the ISS from the American crew present at the time."

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1461 on: 05/31/2012 12:10 am »
This might get me ridiculed as a SpaceX person, but it's a serious question.  How would you say what SpaceX has done to date, plus what we know (or have had hinted to us) about their future plans, compares to the 1960s NASA HSF program, including Mercury, Gemini and Apollo?

Well, of course NASA did things in the 1960s that no one knew was possible, such as manned spaceflight, spacewalks, rendezvous, and moon landings.  They were making it up as they went along.  Before the first Vostok and Mercury flights, there was some concern that prolonged exposure to zero g would cause such vertigo as to be incapacitating. 

From what I've heard, Elon Musk and SpaceX give full credit to those pioneers.  I think Elon said somewhere, "we stand on the shoulders of giants".  The people of SpaceX are trying to learn to do what is now known to be possible, but to do it in a more economical way, which will make it more commonplace.

But when STS-1 launched, it was the beginning of a revolution--a new manned spacecraft after several years of nothing, the first winged orbital spacecraft, the first reusable spacecraft, that was going to fly many times a year, bring costs down and open up space in a big way.  Why not be excited by that?  But then it didn't happen--there were only a few launches every year

I said earlier that I was fortunate enough to read Tom Wolfe's book "The Right Stuff" just before STS-1, which made me appreciate it more.  It seemed like spacecraft were finally coming around full circle to what they were working towards in the 1950s, before being detoured by "Spam in a can" capsules.  But the Shuttle was a compromise design and it never lived up to its promise of making spaceflight cheap and routine.  The decision to use it for launching satellites was probably a mistake, since it made every satellite launch a manned flight, which did nothing for economy.

There were plenty of memorable moments in the early Shuttle flights:  satellite releases, untethered spacewalks, satellite retrieval and repair missions.  But after Challenger, I found myself holding my breath for every launch.  Not exactly routine spaceflight.  The EELVs took over satellite launching.  The Shuttles were then tasked to build the ISS.  Then, after Columbia, the Shuttles were deemed so fragile that they were restricted to only flying to the ISS.  The last Hubble repair mission was nearly cancelled because of safety concerns. 

And 30 years of NEO flights tended to cause the general public to lose interest.

I've decided that what makes Dragon so exciting is that it is the first new manned spacecraft to be developed in a generation.  True, it hasn't flown manned yet, but neither did Mercury, Gemini, or Apollo on their first few flights.  Shenzhou is more or less a Soyuz knockoff.  And SpaceX has very ambitious plans for Dragon, which include going beyond Earth orbit.
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1462 on: 05/31/2012 12:18 am »
57,000 posts in the SpaceX section - wowzers. I think we need two sections for SpaceX. One for mission specific (update threads, specific mission discussion threads, party threads (one per mission)) and one section for everything else (FH, New Engines, General, etc ;)). Plus the mission specific would be useful to bump on all the F1 Update threads, because - personally - success (C2+) is a bigger deal when one considers how the F1 fails nearly brought down the whole show.
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1463 on: 05/31/2012 01:18 am »
57,000 posts in the SpaceX section - wowzers. I think we need two sections for SpaceX. One for mission specific (update threads, specific mission discussion threads, party threads (one per mission)) and one section for everything else (FH, New Engines, General, etc ;)). Plus the mission specific would be useful to bump on all the F1 Update threads, because - personally - success (C2+) is a bigger deal when one considers how the F1 fails nearly brought down the whole show.

It could be a good idea to make a seperate section for mission updates in the future (when SpaceX has 12 flights a year).  At that point, we would doing pretty much one mission after another.  (Hope that doesn't tire you guys out.  ;D).  However I don't really see the need for it right now.  Maybe at some point when there are more missions.

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1464 on: 05/31/2012 03:33 am »
There were plenty of memorable moments in the early Shuttle flights:  satellite releases, untethered spacewalks, satellite retrieval and repair missions.

I think my best memory is when the 3 astronauts grabbed that mis-fired satellite by hand when the grappling mechanism didn't work (checks online - it was Intelsat-VI, on STS-49). I want to see a robot system do that!

Our Cable TV system carried the NASA channel back then (lucky us!), so I watched live as the first two capture attempts failed, after hours of trying. When they tried (on the third day) an unplanned (prior to flight) totally manual 'catch', that was just mindblowing.

And the first Hubble repair mission (again, watched the whole thing live), that was pretty awesome too.

Sigh. The STS was a huge blind alley, but... the memories...

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1465 on: 05/31/2012 07:49 am »
Not sure if its been posted or not but did you see this,



A guy filmed the launch from his RC plane!

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1466 on: 05/31/2012 08:22 am »
How could he find his way back to his takeoff point at night? Was he using GPS?

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1467 on: 05/31/2012 08:29 am »
How could he find his way back to his takeoff point at night? Was he using GPS?

Yes. They all use on screen displays with GPS, autopilot, return to home etc..

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1468 on: 05/31/2012 08:49 am »
How could he find his way back to his takeoff point at night? Was he using GPS?

Yes. They all use on screen displays with GPS, autopilot, return to home etc..
The comments he made on the YouTube video indicate that he was using a flashing beacon for return navigation, without GPS.
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1469 on: 05/31/2012 08:58 am »
How could he find his way back to his takeoff point at night? Was he using GPS?

Yes. They all use on screen displays with GPS, autopilot, return to home etc..
The comments he made on the YouTube video indicate that he was using a flashing beacon for return navigation, without GPS.

Oh ok maybe he did with that one. They usually do have OSd's (me included)

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1470 on: 05/31/2012 09:33 am »
If they swing Canada Arm fast enough and drop Dragon there would be no need for deorbit burn ;)
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1471 on: 05/31/2012 09:52 am »
whoa! those thrusters!

i'm humming blue danube right now...

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1472 on: 05/31/2012 10:19 am »
i'm humming blue danube right now...

Hehe, that's what I did too!  ;D

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1473 on: 05/31/2012 10:20 am »
They unleashed the Dragon!
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1474 on: 05/31/2012 10:37 am »
i'm humming blue danube right now...

Hehe, that's what I did too!  ;D

(Indignantly) You need a Spaceplane for that!!  >:(   ;) ;D
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1475 on: 05/31/2012 10:51 am »
i'm humming blue danube right now...

Hehe, that's what I did too!  ;D

Thanks for nothing, guys.  Everone in the office is looking at me weird for humming a Strauss waltz as I allegedly work!
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1476 on: 05/31/2012 12:43 pm »
It is nice to see that the Dragon capsule has accomplished her mission to the ISS successfully and is now making her way back to Earth and the Pacific Ocean where she will be splashing down.

I have been way too busy to follow this other than superficiially but I am sure there will be plenty more.

Safe splashing to the Dragon!

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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1477 on: 05/31/2012 12:45 pm »
I wish somebody would say whether the GNC door has closed or not.  Someone on the update thread said it should have happened by now, although I can't find a time for it.
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1478 on: 05/31/2012 12:51 pm »
I wish somebody would say whether the GNC door has closed or not.  Someone on the update thread said it should have happened by now, although I can't find a time for it.

It's goodbye mission if they don't isn't it?
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Re: OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!
« Reply #1479 on: 05/31/2012 12:56 pm »
I wish somebody would say whether the GNC door has closed or not.  Someone on the update thread said it should have happened by now, although I can't find a time for it.

Per Spaceflightnow:

07:07 AM...Unlatch/close/latch GNC cover

Appears to be Eastern time.

Edit: This is not a confirmation, merely responding to your request for the estimated time. I'm anxiously awaiting confirmation on this too :)
« Last Edit: 05/31/2012 12:57 pm by Airlock »

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