OMG it's the SpaceX Party Thread!

[Thunderbird5]

I was preparing a reply to this thread but when I read Mongo62 and billh's posts I decided that said it all for me too (and indicates my age!  )

[sanman]

Since we're partying here, I really wanted to shift the discussion towards Elon's or SpaceX's naming convention - ie. discussion of why things were named what they were, alternative name suggestions, brainstorming of future names, etc, etc.

Or can we just have a dedicated thread for that?

[FinalFrontier]

Since we're partying here, I really wanted to shift the discussion towards Elon's or SpaceX's naming convention - ie. discussion of why things were named what they were, alternative name suggestions, brainstorming of future names, etc, etc.

Or can we just have a dedicated thread for that?

We do have dedicated threads for that. One of them is called general spacex discussion (thread 5).

[sanman]

I've just thought of a new title for Musk's unauthorized biography:

Mars is a Harsh Mistress 

[alexw]

Create a new thread: "Jim vs. SpaceX Fans"

How about "Jim vs. the Volcano"

Guys,
       I think it's pretty clear from his posts that Jim *is* a SpaceX fan, by any reasonable definition of "fan" -- e.g. most recently: getting up to watch the first launch attempt in the night, putting COTS2/3 on a par with Gemini 10, saying that Dragon has earned its place in the NASM. There are other posts, too, going back a long way.
       What he is not is what is (derisively) referred to around here as a "fan boi". There's a difference, undoubtedly born from a combination of a deep knowledge of space history, insider knowledge about the costs and movements within the industry, and a degree of cynicism (or realism, take your pick) about too many previous hopes flickered out or unacknowledged by those new.
       What we all hope, I think, is that Jim turns out to have been insufficiently optimistic (for good and deep reasons, at present) about the extent to which space exploration is ultimately changed by the Space Exploration Technologies Corporation. We all yearn for "this time, it's different". Some day it will be. Is that this?
       For the moment, party on, SpaceX!
             -Alex

[krytek]

Jim is awesome. Period.

[joek]

I think it's pretty clear from his posts that Jim *is* a SpaceX fan...

No need for taking sides...  I think Jim, like most of us, is a Space[X] fan; emphasis on the "space".

[Chris Bergin]

I still think this is one of the best threads evah.

[Jim]

In a normal business the cost of development would be captured in future business revenues. So SpaceX captures their 1 billion in development costs from their CRS and commercial contracts. Compare to SLS, which would account for its 25-50 billion in development in its 5-10 launches over 20 years. You would also count the cost of funds, so you would count the interest paid to the foreigners funding our deficit. So add perhaps 5 billion to each SLS launch plus the rocket and operations costs and compare to Falcon 9. 
Make those numbers work and we can start a new party thread.

SLS is not part of this discussion and is not a valid comparison.  ULA and OSC are Spacex peers and not govt managed systems.

For all those who think I am anti Spacex, read my posts about SLS or Ares 1

[oiorionsbelt]

Spacex,

I'm taking a drink

[wolfpack]

For all those who think I am anti Spacex, read my posts about SLS or Ares 1

I don't. I just think you're anti-verbosity.

As for me, I'm happy for SpaceX. Personally, I thought the whole "Elon! Elon!" chant thing was creepy.

But, "Go SpaceX!" It's your party.

Memorial Day beer post over.

[oiorionsbelt]

For all those who think I am anti Spacex, read my posts about SLS or Ares 1

Your posts on Ares 1 were great and you convinced me it was a kludge early on.
 I'm glad you provide a counter balance to fan_boi'ism but please don't  take it to the extreme.

Cheers 

[sfjcody_]

I love critical posters even though I'm a basically a starry eyed fan. It's good to get a splash of cold water now and again. Does Jeffrey Bell post here at all?

[Beemer]

This party needs some rejuvenation. How about every time Jim posts "Spacex," I post an updated version with "SpaceX" and we all take a drink. We stop when he posts correctly or I get banned.

I'll drink to that 

[DaveH62]

In a normal business the cost of development would be captured in future business revenues. So SpaceX captures their 1 billion in development costs from their CRS and commercial contracts. Compare to SLS, which would account for its 25-50 billion in development in its 5-10 launches over 20 years. You would also count the cost of funds, so you would count the interest paid to the foreigners funding our deficit. So add perhaps 5 billion to each SLS launch plus the rocket and operations costs and compare to Falcon 9. 
Make those numbers work and we can start a new party thread.

SLS is not part of this discussion and is not a valid comparison.  ULA and OSC are Spacex peers and not govt managed systems.

For all those who think I am anti Spacex, read my posts about SLS or Ares 1

Apologies of I was a party troll. Appreciate your knowledge. You seem to have the history of the space program in your head.

[Jim]

I love critical posters even though I'm a basically a starry eyed fan. It's good to get a splash of cold water now and again. Does Jeffrey Bell post here at all?

Thankfully, no.  He thinks he knows more than he does.

[rickl]

But as a space junkie, I'm totally stoked.  This was really cool, and I can't quite explain why.

I remember Apollo 4, Apollo 11, and STS-1.  I've seen Shuttles and cargo vehicles dock and berth with the ISS.

Yet I was thrilled beyond belief by this unmanned test flight.

[Cinder]

The bottom line for me is that SpaceX is getting more traction on positive public awareness of space than any other company, despite any of those having better industrial track record by some or all metrics.

[kevin-rf]

Heavy Heavy!!! First contract just signed!!!

Okay, I now return the thread to arguing with Jim and that boring ISS stuff

[robertross]

Heavy Heavy!!! First contract just signed!!!

Okay, I now return the thread to arguing with Jim and that boring ISS stuff

Huh, what? !!!!!

edit:  ooo!!
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