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Didn't see an existing thread for this launch.

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The satellite is also exciting geogeeks thanks to specs that promise it will be able to revisit any corner of the globe every 24 hours. DigitalGlobe's other birds, WorldView-2-and-1, will team with the newest member of the family to reduce revisit times to around 12 hours, a boon for those who need a lot of perspective in a hurry.
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Question, is the a ULA only, or Lockheed Martin subcontracting through ULA launch?

I am kinda curious who contracted the launch.

The following in Aviation Week : http://www.aviationweek.com/Article.aspx?id=/article-xml/AW_04_23_2012_p30-449639.xml

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For heavier-lift capability, LMCLS subcontracts to ULA for Atlas vehicles. The current Atlas backlog includes the GeoEye-2 satellite scheduled for launch in 2013 and DigitalGlobe's WorldView-3 scheduled in 2014, both on Atlas V 401s.

Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?
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Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?

Yes, it is correct.  Commercial Atlas missions are marketed by LM

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Does that mean it is more cost effective to launch GeoEye-2 and WorldView-3 on an Atlas, or because of the dual use nature of the payloads ITAR prevented them from being launched by non US launch providers.

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Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?

Yes, it is correct.  Commercial Atlas missions are marketed by LM
That's interesting, does that mean commercial crew launched on Atlas 5 will be marketed by LM also? (assuming it happens)

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Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?

Yes, it is correct.  Commercial Atlas missions are marketed by LM
That's interesting, does that mean commercial crew launched on Atlas 5 will be marketed by LM also? (assuming it happens)

No, the spacecraft will market the commercial crew service and it will go through LM to buy the Atlas, just as LM doesn't market the comm service for the comsats it flies.
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Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?

Yes, it is correct.  Commercial Atlas missions are marketed by LM
That's interesting, does that mean commercial crew launched on Atlas 5 will be marketed by LM also? (assuming it happens)

No, the spacecraft will market the commercial crew service and it will go through LM to buy the Atlas, just as LM doesn't market the comm service for the comsats it flies.
So,  lets say, SNC wants to launch Dream Chaser, they go to LM to buy an AtlasV, do they then go to ULA to launch the AtlasV with DC ?

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Indicates the launch was sold by Lockheed Martin, not ULA. Is that correct?

Yes, it is correct.  Commercial Atlas missions are marketed by LM
That's interesting, does that mean commercial crew launched on Atlas 5 will be marketed by LM also? (assuming it happens)

No, the spacecraft will market the commercial crew service and it will go through LM to buy the Atlas, just as LM doesn't market the comm service for the comsats it flies.
So,  lets say, SNC wants to launch Dream Chaser, they go to LM to buy an AtlasV, do they then go to ULA to launch the AtlasV with DC ?

This thread is starting to stray off topic.
Lets focus on Atlas V 401 - WorldView 3 - Midyear 2014 not SNC please.

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Why would a commercial enterprise pay the big bucks for an Atlas V when there are much cheaper alternatives? Unless their funding depended on launch on EELV, of course.

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Why would a commercial enterprise pay the big bucks for an Atlas V when there are much cheaper alternatives? Unless their funding depended on launch on EELV, of course.


Which ones are they?
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Why would a commercial enterprise pay the big bucks for an Atlas V when there are much cheaper alternatives? Unless their funding depended on launch on EELV, of course.


Security of a proven LV with at least 28(or 29 how you see it) launches, remember that things other than LV costs come into play, like insurance costs ect. Falcon 9 has flown twice with substantial differences in the system between the two, so is not proven (especially with a Merlin 1D version on the way)

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Why would a commercial enterprise pay the big bucks for an Atlas V when there are much cheaper alternatives? Unless their funding depended on launch on EELV, of course.


Security of a proven LV with at least 28(or 29 how you see it) launches, remember that things other than LV costs come into play, like insurance costs ect. Falcon 9 has flown twice with substantial differences in the system between the two, so is not proven (especially with a Merlin 1D version on the way)
I think Danderman was referring to the foreign launchers.
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Why would a commercial enterprise pay the big bucks for an Atlas V when there are much cheaper alternatives? Unless their funding depended on launch on EELV, of course.


Security of a proven LV with at least 28(or 29 how you see it) launches, remember that things other than LV costs come into play, like insurance costs ect. Falcon 9 has flown twice with substantial differences in the system between the two, so is not proven (especially with a Merlin 1D version on the way)
I think Danderman was referring to the foreign launchers.
Then the only option is Ariane 5 if you want the reliability. And that's going to be even more expensive than Atlas V since its going to need a dedicated flight.

Like Jim said, what alternatives are there? Soyuz from CSG? And that's not a system that has shown high reliability lately
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Does ITAR come into play in the launcher decision? It is a commercial system that has the DOD as a very large anchor customer.

I vaguely recall something about the next generation Iridium system going with SpaceX for similar ITAR related reasons.
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It is a commercial system that has the DOD as a very large anchor customer.



I think my question was just answered.

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It is a commercial system that has the DOD as a very large anchor customer.



I think my question was just answered.


That isn't it, there are no others available

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btw: DigitalGlobe's website ( http://www.digitalglobe.com ) has more information about WorldView 3.

http://www.digitalglobe.com/content/worldview3/

http://www.digitalglobe.com/downloads/WorldView3-DS-WV3-Web.pdf

No masses listed, so we can not tell if the mission could fly on a Delta II,Taurus, or Athena.
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No masses listed, so we can not tell if the mission could fly on a Delta II,Taurus, or Athena.

http://www.satimagingcorp.com/satellite-sensors/worldview-3.html

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Thanks Jim,

2800kg to a 617 km polar orbit is achievable by the Delta II. So will an Atlas 401 cost less?
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