Author Topic: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread (Read 811319 times)

abaddon · « **Reply #1440 on:** 09/16/2014 07:29 pm »

Somehow I don't think I'm going to be getting any work done over the next hour or so.

Brovane · « **Reply #1441 on:** 09/16/2014 07:29 pm »

Quote from: SWGlassPit on 09/16/2014 07:24 pm

Quote from: Helodriver on 09/16/2014 07:23 pm
This is going to be an interesting, as it will be the first time the US has had two manned space vehicle models in operation simultaneously. Thats quite different and will present unique training challenges.

Not counting, of course, the combination of Shuttle and ISS

Depends on how you define space vehicle. with the definintion below ISS and the LM wouldn't be a space vehicle.

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A space vehicle is a rocket-powered vehicle used to transport unmanned satellites or humans between the Earth's surface and outer space.

kevinof · « **Reply #1442 on:** 09/16/2014 07:32 pm »

Bummer. Not what I wanted.

Quote from: Targeteer on 09/16/2014 07:28 pm

Sen Nelson was just on CNN talking about "2 capsules on top of rockets" and presumably he has a heads up on what will be announced...

GalacticIntruder · « **Reply #1443 on:** 09/16/2014 07:33 pm »

This contract is just to 2017, or through test flights? It is not clear what happens after that through 2020 or 2024, whether they would each get 1-2 flights per year, or another down-select.

We know SpaceX was talking 4 flights, 28 astronauts per year, but has backed-off to 2 flights and 8 astronauts and cargo per year.

With two winners, I would expect a paltry 1 flight each per year for Boeing and SpaceX.

yg1968 · « **Reply #1444 on:** 09/16/2014 07:34 pm »

Quote from: GalacticIntruder on 09/16/2014 07:33 pm

This contract is just to 2017, or through test flights? It is not clear what happens after that through 2020 or 2024, whether they would each get 1-2 flights per year, or another down-select.

We know SpaceX was talking 4 flights, 28 astronauts per year, but has back-off to 2 flights and 8 astronauts and cargo per year.

With two winners, I would expect a paltry 1 flight each per year for Boeing and SpaceX.

The post-certification missions under CCtCap go through 2019.

Targeteer · « **Reply #1445 on:** 09/16/2014 07:35 pm »

CAPCOM just offered to uplink the press conference to the crew who eagerly accepted

mr. mark · « **Reply #1446 on:** 09/16/2014 07:36 pm »

Quote from: SWGlassPit on 09/16/2014 07:24 pm

Quote from: Helodriver on 09/16/2014 07:23 pm
This is going to be an interesting, as it will be the first time the US has had two manned space vehicle models in operation simultaneously. Thats quite different and will present unique training challenges.

Not counting, of course, the combination of Shuttle and ISS

Always wondered why ISS was considered a spacecraft and not a space station. Well another topic for another time.

Helodriver · « **Reply #1447 on:** 09/16/2014 07:37 pm »

With new vehicles in the quiver and (presumably) lower prices, maybe there will be shorter duration stays and more flight opportunities for different researchers to our orbital "national laboratory."

Kim Keller · « **Reply #1448 on:** 09/16/2014 07:38 pm »

Quote from: brovane on 09/16/2014 07:29 pm

Depends on how you define space vehicle. with the definintion below ISS and the LM wouldn't be a space vehicle.
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A space vehicle is a rocket-powered vehicle used to transport unmanned satellites or humans between the Earth's surface and outer space.

That's not the definition launch service providers use. The launch vehicle carries the space vehicle to space.

kirghizstan · « **Reply #1449 on:** 09/16/2014 07:50 pm »

i'm not getting any sound on the nasa ios app is any sound playing with these clips on nasa tv?

king1999 · « **Reply #1450 on:** 09/16/2014 07:51 pm »

It is a bummer that there are so many leaks. I was looking forward to an Apple-style announcement. "One more thing. We also award a second winner, ..."

Kryten · « **Reply #1451 on:** 09/16/2014 07:52 pm »

Quote from: kirghizstan on 09/16/2014 07:50 pm

i'm not getting any sound on the nasa ios app is any sound playing with these clips on nasa tv?

I'm on chrome on windows, and it's silent for me as well.

yg1968 · « **Reply #1452 on:** 09/16/2014 07:52 pm »

Quote from: kirghizstan on 09/16/2014 07:50 pm

i'm not getting any sound on the nasa ios app is any sound playing with these clips on nasa tv?

Some of these B-rolls videos don't have sound.

mr. mark · « **Reply #1453 on:** 09/16/2014 07:54 pm »

About 5 minutes, I'm hyped been waiting for this for months.

abaddon · « **Reply #1454 on:** 09/16/2014 07:54 pm »

Quote from: mtakala24 on 09/16/2014 07:53 pm

Typically these news reels do not have sound. Only some of them do.

I keep getting startled by the same rocket exhaust sound that starts up suddenly every once in a while

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Seems we are now in a holding pattern for the start of the live broadcast though. Even though we think we know what is going to happen (roughly) I am on the edge of my seat.

Hauerg · « **Reply #1455 on:** 09/16/2014 07:57 pm »

Expect 60:40 split in favour of Boeing.

CriX · « **Reply #1456 on:** 09/16/2014 07:58 pm »

http://www.ustream.tv/nasahdtv

abaddon · « **Reply #1457 on:** 09/16/2014 08:00 pm »

And we're started!

clongton · « **Reply #1458 on:** 09/16/2014 08:01 pm »

Quote from: Hauerg on 09/16/2014 07:57 pm

Expect 60:40 split in favour of Boeing.

Each company will get what they bid after negotiations regardless of the amount. The amount of the award has nothing to do with which company is preferred.

abaddon · « **Reply #1459 on:** 09/16/2014 08:05 pm »

Quote from: clongton on 09/16/2014 08:01 pm

Each company will get what they bid after negotiations regardless of the amount. The amount of the award has nothing to do with which company is preferred.

Hopefully they make that clear in the press conference. Even so I am sure there will be "1st place" and "2nd place" comments all over the place from news media that ought to know better.