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Offline Longhorn John

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1320 on: 09/16/2014 02:45 pm »
Another take from the Houston Chronicle.  ;)

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/nation-world/article/HED-5680379.php

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1321 on: 09/16/2014 02:47 pm »
I know the decision is already made, but I am hoping that it was as divorced from the political as possible and was based on the merits of the systems offered. We shall see.
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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1322 on: 09/16/2014 02:47 pm »
Another take from the Houston Chronicle.  ;)

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/nation-world/article/HED-5680379.php

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Chris, please don't do this with NSF.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1323 on: 09/16/2014 02:51 pm »
Another take from the Houston Chronicle.  ;)

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/nation-world/article/HED-5680379.php

"To continue reading this story, you will need to be a digital subscriber to HoustonChronicle.com."

Chris, please don't do this with NSF.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1324 on: 09/16/2014 02:56 pm »
Another take from the Houston Chronicle.  ;)

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/nation-world/article/HED-5680379.php

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Chris, please don't do this with NSF.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1326 on: 09/16/2014 03:03 pm »
Yes it has, with a fair amount of skepticism expressed based on the writer's history.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1327 on: 09/16/2014 03:05 pm »
Do we know whether or not the winner(s) have already been notified?
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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1328 on: 09/16/2014 03:08 pm »

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1329 on: 09/16/2014 03:10 pm »

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1332 on: 09/16/2014 03:23 pm »
Alan Boyle is reliable.

He is retweeting Jay Barbree's article so his reliability is irrelevant here. Barbree's article sounds pretty similar to what WSJ said yesterday so I'm still slightly skeptical about this.
« Last Edit: 09/16/2014 03:24 pm by ugordan »

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1333 on: 09/16/2014 03:24 pm »
Chris. Can you deny the WSJ article? I'd be shocked if CST-100 has won.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1334 on: 09/16/2014 03:25 pm »
Forbes is now running with this story based on the WSJ piece.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexknapp/2014/09/16/reports-boeing-to-beat-out-spacex-for-nasa-contract-thanks-to-jeff-bezos/

From the Forbes article:

"We haven’t made that decision yet. We would have to take a step back, review the potential business case and go from there,” the [Boeing] spokesperson told me. “It would be more difficult to close the business case without the NASA foundation business.”

If that's a correct quote, then perhaps Boeing is backpedaling on their threats... er, previous statements... that if they didn't win they would not continue forward, and lay off many folk associated with the project.
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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1335 on: 09/16/2014 03:26 pm »
Alan Boyle is reliable.

He is retweeting Jay Barbree's article so his reliability is irrelevant here. Barbree's article sounds pretty similar to what WSJ said yesterday so I'm still slightly skeptical about this.

I noticed that afterwards. But Jay Barbree had the right CCiCap winners the last time.  Pasztor didn't say anything about SpaceX winning.
« Last Edit: 09/16/2014 03:26 pm by yg1968 »

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1336 on: 09/16/2014 03:26 pm »
I trust Jay's reporting. Doubt he'd stick his neck out it he didn't know something. If true glad to see Boeing and SpaceX get the go ahead.

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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1337 on: 09/16/2014 03:28 pm »
Pasztor didn't say anything about SpaceX winning.

WSJ - "One of the two other bidders—SpaceX or Sierra Nevada Corp.—is expected to obtain a smaller contract as a second source, these experts said. SpaceX is in a very strong position to get the nod, the experts added."

Jay Barbree - "Sources say Boeing will be receiving the larger share of that money."
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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1338 on: 09/16/2014 03:29 pm »
Jay Barbree of NBC News says SpaceX and Boeing have won:
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/boeing-spacex-are-due-win-nasas-nod-space-taxis-n204426
https://twitter.com/b0yle/status/511896353463488512

Sources say Boeing will be receiving the larger share of that money.

I am not sure how to construe that. Boeing probably got more money because their system is more expensive?

Edit/CR: fixed quote
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Re: CCDev to CCiCAP to CCtCAP Discussion Thread
« Reply #1339 on: 09/16/2014 03:31 pm »
Pasztor didn't say anything about SpaceX winning.

WSJ - "One of the two other bidders—SpaceX or Sierra Nevada Corp.—is expected to obtain a smaller contract as a second source, these experts said. SpaceX is in a very strong position to get the nod, the experts added."

Jay Barbree - "Sources say Boeing will be receiving the larger share of that money."

Right. So Pasztor says that SpaceX is in a strong position to win whereas Barbree says that SpaceX has actually won.
« Last Edit: 09/16/2014 03:32 pm by yg1968 »

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