By this time the winners already know they have won because they are doing a quick review of the draft FFP contracts that would be signed on the day or few days before of the public anouncement. They just can't say anything about it. Also they know they won but don't know who else if any also won. They have about 2 weeks to acomplish all of this word-smith ironing of the contracts with NASA. Plus until the contracts have actually been signed they have not technically won yet.
Quote from: docmordrid on 08/15/2014 08:26 amQuoteCharles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportNASA Comm. Crew CCtCap award likely on 22 or 29 Aug.: allows finalization of contracts before likely Contin. Res. (CR) for next FY at 1 Oct.Charles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportAlso: CCtCap probably two "full" awards, no "half;" depending on $ avail., options to extend now/new active phases under consideration.What does "depending on $ avail., options to extend now/new active phases under consideration" mean?
QuoteCharles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportNASA Comm. Crew CCtCap award likely on 22 or 29 Aug.: allows finalization of contracts before likely Contin. Res. (CR) for next FY at 1 Oct.Charles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportAlso: CCtCap probably two "full" awards, no "half;" depending on $ avail., options to extend now/new active phases under consideration.
Charles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportNASA Comm. Crew CCtCap award likely on 22 or 29 Aug.: allows finalization of contracts before likely Contin. Res. (CR) for next FY at 1 Oct.Charles A. Lurio @TheLurioReportAlso: CCtCap probably two "full" awards, no "half;" depending on $ avail., options to extend now/new active phases under consideration.
Quote from: oldAtlas_Eguy on 08/15/2014 02:45 pmBy this time the winners already know they have won because they are doing a quick review of the draft FFP contracts that would be signed on the day or few days before of the public anouncement. They just can't say anything about it. Also they know they won but don't know who else if any also won. They have about 2 weeks to acomplish all of this word-smith ironing of the contracts with NASA. Plus until the contracts have actually been signed they have not technically won yet.Actually each company pre-signs an agreement whether they have won or lost. NASA then decides to sign or not that agreement. The companies only find out the day of whether they have won or lost. That's how it was explained by someone involved in the process in a prior round.
By this time the winners already know
I wonder if that's sposed 2B "Aug 22-29"? Time frame matches what I'm hearing on #CCtCap, but not those dates.
So, does this round of CCtCap cover the first crewed orbital test launches?
Ah, yes. I remember now. Thanks!Good to hear. So we will have two American crewed spaceships, then. Both of which will be highly reusable and look awesome and don't rely solely on parachutes. Cool. Some "trampoline!"
Pre- or CCtCap task times may stretch contingent available $.
When posters claim they are "sure" and "certain" their favorite company is one of the winners, without knowing how a selection is being made, it is because they are participating in a one-sided groupthink conversation that makes something "obvious" that is not at all obvious.
Now, if someone has inside info, that is another matter.
Article ahead of the decision. Respecting the decision will be revealed when NASA reveal it.http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/08/cctcapnasa-wont-abandon-commercial-crew-loser/I'll give this a standalone thread.
Quote from: Ike17055 on 08/16/2014 05:58 pmWhen posters claim they are "sure" and "certain" their favorite company is one of the winners, without knowing how a selection is being made, it is because they are participating in a one-sided groupthink conversation that makes something "obvious" that is not at all obvious.Or they know the subject so well that they are making educated guesses. But even so, so what? It's a discussion thread where anyone can voice their opinion. And sometimes wild guesses can not only be entertaining, but sometimes they turn out to be right.QuoteNow, if someone has inside info, that is another matter.On L2 there is inside info.