Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES  (Read 245088 times)

Offline FinalFrontier

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
  • Space Watcher
  • Liked: 1332
  • Likes Given: 173
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #60 on: 04/16/2012 07:55 pm »
Ahhh that accounts for the delay, NASA wanted more system level tests.


This seems to be the case. They did mention they want a few more sims anyway (even now) but I think this is all really positive. Seems like they will make their timeline.
3-30-2017: The start of a great future
"Live Long and Prosper"

Offline manboy

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2086
  • Texas, USA, Earth
  • Liked: 134
  • Likes Given: 544
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #61 on: 04/16/2012 07:55 pm »
Elon's personality is remarkably different.
"Cheese has been sent into space before. But the same cheese has never been sent into space twice." - StephenB

Offline FinalFrontier

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
  • Space Watcher
  • Liked: 1332
  • Likes Given: 173
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #62 on: 04/16/2012 07:56 pm »
Elon speaking now. Mentions that both the vehicle and spacecraft are still new, mission is pretty tricky.
3-30-2017: The start of a great future
"Live Long and Prosper"

Offline Chris Bergin

Elon time:

Notes appreciation to NASA for their help and the American public who are funding this.

I think we've got a pretty good shot, but there's a lot that can go wrong.

We've launched the rocket twice before, the spacecraft once, but they are new. Rendezvous will be a first. There's no ISS on the ground, so it's important to appreciate it's really tricky.

People may not realize ISS is zooming around the planet at 17,500mph, so it's hard. I think we've got a very good chance, but this is test flight, so we have a couple more missions to succeed.
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline StephenB

  • Full Member
  • **
  • Posts: 282
  • Liked: 17
  • Likes Given: 201
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #64 on: 04/16/2012 07:59 pm »
Did I get this right? Musk: if we don't succeed on birthing on this mission, we have another couple of missions to accomplish it this year.

Offline Chris Bergin

Notes the upcoming hot fire to come.

Some B-Roll type videos on preps and COTS overview. I'm missing Mike Moses right now! :D
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline FinalFrontier

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
  • Space Watcher
  • Liked: 1332
  • Likes Given: 173
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #66 on: 04/16/2012 08:01 pm »
Holly now discussing the effort involved (in the past several years) leading to this launch. Discussing individual interactions between all the teams in each facility.

Really puts the whole thing into perspective, just how far this effort has come.
3-30-2017: The start of a great future
"Live Long and Prosper"

Offline Chris Bergin

Ms Ridings noting a lot of work has been going on with the integration between the ISS and this new spacecraft.

Two dynamic vehicles, very important they communicate. ISS' role is mainly the safety of the crew. SpaceX for the spacecraft.

Two crewmembers available for Dragon ops. A lot of time working with them, to ensure they understand what is expected of them.

Short mission overview.
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline STS Tony

  • Extreme Veteran
  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1681
  • Los Angeles
  • Liked: 55
  • Likes Given: 107
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #68 on: 04/16/2012 08:04 pm »
Did I get this right? Musk: if we don't succeed on birthing on this mission, we have another couple of missions to accomplish it this year.

Read Chris' notes. ;) Short answer, Yes.

Mr Gerstenmaier notes this wasn't like a shuttle FRR. Was for the ISS.


Which means they didn't go launch vehicle and spacecraft hardware like a shuttle FRR.  It is mostly the onorbit stuff.  Launch topics would only be schedule, range, and recycle, but not nitty-gritty details.

So true Jim. I find it surprising seen as NASA's paying for it.

Online Robotbeat

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 39359
  • Minnesota
  • Liked: 25388
  • Likes Given: 12164
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #69 on: 04/16/2012 08:05 pm »
Suff notes there's still some non standard work relating to hardware testing in the loop for software and hardware.

Left it to SpaceX to define their mission parameters (mission success).

521 kg of cargo flying up.

660kg downmass for refurbishing (that's a big deal).
...
Wow, 660kg... Must be nice to get the downmass capability back, huh? That's more than I expected.
Chris  Whoever loves correction loves knowledge, but he who hates reproof is stupid.

To the maximum extent practicable, the Federal Government shall plan missions to accommodate the space transportation services capabilities of United States commercial providers. US law http://goo.gl/YZYNt0

Offline Chris Bergin

« Last Edit: 04/16/2012 08:06 pm by Chris Bergin »
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline corrodedNut

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1542
  • Liked: 216
  • Likes Given: 133
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #71 on: 04/16/2012 08:05 pm »
Will they integrate this final flight sim into the static fire, like they did with the WDRs? Or is that too late?
« Last Edit: 04/16/2012 08:06 pm by corrodedNut »

Offline Kabloona

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4847
  • Velocitas Eradico
  • Fortress of Solitude
  • Liked: 3432
  • Likes Given: 741
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #72 on: 04/16/2012 08:06 pm »
NASA Twitter reporting it's a go for April 30.

Offline ugordan

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8560
    • My mainly Cassini image gallery
  • Liked: 3628
  • Likes Given: 775
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #73 on: 04/16/2012 08:07 pm »
Will they integrate this final flight sim into the static fire, like they did with the WDRs? Or is that too late?

I'm thinking it's the latter.

Offline Chris Bergin

NASA Twitter reporting it's a go for April 30.

Please read the thread. Mr Gerstenmaier's comments are more important than what they post on twitter.

#Context! :D
« Last Edit: 04/16/2012 08:10 pm by Chris Bergin »
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline Jim

  • Night Gator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 37818
  • Cape Canaveral Spaceport
  • Liked: 22048
  • Likes Given: 430
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #75 on: 04/16/2012 08:08 pm »

So true Jim. I find it surprising seen as NASA's paying for it.

NASA isn't paying for the hardware, just the service.  The FRR covers the NASA/Spacex interaction, which only occurs onorbit.

Offline Chris Bergin

The first flyunder is very important, as it's the first command from the ISS, per:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2012/04/iss-robotic-arm-preparation-greet-spacexs-dragon/
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline Jim

  • Night Gator
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 37818
  • Cape Canaveral Spaceport
  • Liked: 22048
  • Likes Given: 430
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #77 on: 04/16/2012 08:09 pm »
Will they integrate this final flight sim into the static fire, like they did with the WDRs? Or is that too late?


Usually not, since the flight sim doesn't want to be subject to the real world issues and delay that might arise during the static fire.
« Last Edit: 04/16/2012 08:11 pm by Jim »

Offline Chris Bergin

Integrated operations:
Support NSF via L2 -- Help improve NSF -- Site Rules/Feedback/Updates
**Not a L2 member? Whitelist this forum in your adblocker to support the site and ensure full functionality.**

Offline manboy

  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2086
  • Texas, USA, Earth
  • Liked: 134
  • Likes Given: 544
Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #79 on: 04/16/2012 08:12 pm »
More slides
« Last Edit: 04/16/2012 08:12 pm by manboy »
"Cheese has been sent into space before. But the same cheese has never been sent into space twice." - StephenB

Tags:
 

Advertisement NovaTech
Advertisement Northrop Grumman
Advertisement
Advertisement Margaritaville Beach Resort South Padre Island
Advertisement Brady Kenniston
Advertisement NextSpaceflight
Advertisement Nathan Barker Photography
0