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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #200 on: 04/21/2012 06:57 am »
SpaceX isn't obeying the labels.  :D :D :D

http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/kscpao/images/medium/2012-2518-m.jpg

There are two sets of handles on those bags. One is rating rated for lifting them under full gravity while the others and dainty and only for maneuvering in microgravity. The note is advising that the bags not be lifted by the dainty handles.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #201 on: 04/21/2012 12:01 pm »
Out of curipsity, if you've got strong handles, why add weak ones?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #202 on: 04/21/2012 12:11 pm »
Out of curipsity, if you've got strong handles, why add weak ones?

There are no 1g handles only zerog

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #203 on: 04/21/2012 12:14 pm »
IMV is inter module ventilation.  That is where a duct from the ISS will connect.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #204 on: 04/21/2012 12:25 pm »
Maybe the strong handles are removed before launch to save weight?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #205 on: 04/21/2012 03:26 pm »
Just a reminder that Sunday (tomorrow) is Spacex's final review followed by NASA's final review/ overview on Monday. We'll know more on Monday.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #206 on: 04/21/2012 03:38 pm »
Maybe the strong handles are removed before launch to save weight?


No, they don't have removal handles.  There are slings and other containers used to handle the bags.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #207 on: 04/21/2012 04:21 pm »
Out of curipsity, if you've got strong handles, why add weak ones?

There are no 1g handles only zerog
I was going off a conversation with an acquaintance involved in cargo processing. They indicated that there were two sets. Then again, this was like 6 months ago.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #208 on: 04/21/2012 05:02 pm »
IMV is inter module ventilation.  That is where a duct from the ISS will connect.

Thanks for the answers here and on L2

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #209 on: 04/22/2012 05:21 am »
The bags come with weak zerog handles otherwise nothing. They are loaded in using external devices... as though they're being loaded without handles at all. Which, in 1g, they pretty much are.

Got it thanks!

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #210 on: 04/22/2012 07:37 pm »
Out of curipsity, if you've got strong handles, why add weak ones?

There are no 1g handles only zerog
I was going off a conversation with an acquaintance involved in cargo processing. They indicated that there were two sets. Then again, this was like 6 months ago.

So what would you say is going on in this picture?
http://mediaarchive.ksc.nasa.gov/imageviewer.cfm?mediaid=59148&mr=l&w=0&h=0&fn=2012-2515&sn=KSC-2012-2515

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #211 on: 04/22/2012 08:24 pm »
The guys with the gauge?  The guy with the camera?  Or the guy manipulating the hanging bag to put in dragon?

I think he is pointing out that they are using the bag handles to lift that bag. Jim said there were only zero-g handles on the bags. It looks like the handles on the end of this bag aren't labelled zero-g only.

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Per L2: Static Fire has been pushed back a day. No impact to the launch date at this time.

Reason is related to recent weather (impacting on the flow).
« Last Edit: 04/23/2012 12:03 am by Chris Bergin »
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #213 on: 04/23/2012 01:46 am »
Chris, since they are pushing back the static fire a day that would indicate that they have approved the launch today since today was the SpaceX go/no go. Correct? Or have you heard the outcome of todays meeting?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #214 on: 04/23/2012 02:07 am »
What day is the fire?

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #215 on: 04/23/2012 02:19 am »
The 26th?
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Chris, since they are pushing back the static fire a day that would indicate that they have approved the launch today since today was the SpaceX go/no go. Correct? Or have you heard the outcome of todays meeting?

No. Per L2 the Falcon 9 (re-)FRR* started late in the day Sunday and the Dragon (re-)FRR* is tomorrow. NASA will get to know after the latter if they are good for April 30 or need to slip. It's a bit more complicated as to how it's done as we're so used to Shuttle.

*The (re-) is my wording, regarding the inclusion of the outstanding work they had per the NASA presser we all saw (software etc.)

And yes, 25th was the static fire. Now 26th.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #217 on: 04/23/2012 03:06 am »
In case nobody else has been keeping an eye on the weather at Cape Canaveral, they're predicted to have a "mostly sunny" day on the 30th with a rather slight chance of rain & amazingly, they have a "Fire Weather Watch" in effect right now.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #218 on: 04/23/2012 03:16 am »
Thanks Chris. It looks like late tomorrow or Tuesday morning we should get the news update on the launch. I have my fingers crossed for a go.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9/Dragon COTS Demo (C2+) PRE LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #219 on: 04/23/2012 06:27 am »
@elonmusk "Just completed the rocket rollout review at SpaceX HQ in California. Almost time to launch. Pucker factor increasing..."

...... I presume this means the review was a GO.....just for falcon9 though
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