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#40
by
Robotbeat
on 10 Feb, 2012 20:58
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#41
by
Blackjax
on 11 Feb, 2012 01:41
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They also have a habit of announcing the contract price.
That would be nice to see...
It was announced as $52.2M each with a right to terminate and obtain a full refund if SpaceX misses the launch period. Launch periods are 1Q2014 for AsiaSat 6 and 1 March 2014 to 31 May 2014 for AsiaSat 8.
Thanks for the information. Do you know why it was discounted so much?
Bad schedule history and the configuration is not flight proven....new engines, tank and PLF
Also, they could have been in talks while SpaceX still had lower prices.
Does SpaceX do piggyback or hosted payloads? Perhaps there is something smaller flying along too.
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#42
by
starsilk
on 22 Feb, 2012 19:11
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#43
by
2552
on 23 Jun, 2012 09:40
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http://www.spacenews.com/launch/120622-asiasat-hedges-spacex-launch.htmlPARIS — Satellite fleet operator AsiaSat on June 22 said it had booked a launch aboard an International Launch Services (ILS) Proton rocket in a $107 million contract that protects AsiaSat against possible delays at launch-services provider Space Exploration Technologies Corp. (SpaceX).
They also have a habit of announcing the contract price.
That would be nice to see...
The above article says $52.2 million:
AsiaSat in February signed with Hawthorne, Calif.-based SpaceX for the launch of the two satellites on separate Falcon 9 rockets. Under that contract, AsiaSat agreed to pay $52.2 million per satellite — half the ILS price.
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#44
by
Jason1701
on 23 Jun, 2012 10:29
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SpaceX's price for these 2014 launches was $1.8M less than its advertised 2012 price. So much for their prices rising to match ULA's, Jim!
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#45
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Jim
on 23 Jun, 2012 13:19
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SpaceX's price for these 2014 launches was $1.8M less than its advertised 2012 price. So much for their prices rising to match ULA's, Jim!
Not true. Govt prices was the point
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#46
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MP99
on 23 Jun, 2012 15:19
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SpaceX's price for these 2014 launches was $1.8M less than its advertised 2012 price. So much for their prices rising to match ULA's, Jim!
They have so far launched three F9s over two years, with only two more before a major reconfiguration to v1.1.
Gwynne says they'll launch eight next year - much more of a production line, and ISTM they'll really know their true costs once they get into that swing.
Will be interesting to see what prices they're quoting on 1/1/2014 (and I hope they're the same, of course).
cheers, Martin
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#47
by
Robotbeat
on 24 Jun, 2012 20:17
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SpaceX's price for these 2014 launches was $1.8M less than its advertised 2012 price. So much for their prices rising to match ULA's, Jim!
They have so far launched three F9s over two years, with only two more before a major reconfiguration to v1.1.
Gwynne says they'll launch eight next year - much more of a production line, and ISTM they'll really know their true costs once they get into that swing.
Will be interesting to see what prices they're quoting on 1/1/2014 (and I hope they're the same, of course).
cheers, Martin
If they can do 5 or 6 launches in 2013, that'd be wonderful.
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#48
by
MP99
on 25 Jun, 2012 08:26
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SpaceX's price for these 2014 launches was $1.8M less than its advertised 2012 price. So much for their prices rising to match ULA's, Jim!
They have so far launched three F9s over two years, with only two more before a major reconfiguration to v1.1.
Gwynne says they'll launch eight next year - much more of a production line, and ISTM they'll really know their true costs once they get into that swing.
Will be interesting to see what prices they're quoting on 1/1/2014 (and I hope they're the same, of course).
If they can do 5 or 6 launches in 2013, that'd be wonderful.
Agreed. When Gwynne said they'd do eight in 2013 I thought that was a very challenging target.
cheers, Martin
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#49
by
kevin-rf
on 25 Jun, 2012 14:08
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I think more important part in that spacenews article is:
But the SpaceX contract stipulated that the AsiaSat 6 contract will be canceled, and all advance payments refunded, if the launch does not occur by March 31, 2014.
You fly the 31st or we take our money back.
Edit:
So that means MDA has to fly this winter (fairing test) and AsiaSat6 will most likely be the second spaceX launch of 2014! My bad, thought it read 2013...
For AsiaSat 8, the launch deadline is May 31, 2014.
That gives them a two month turn around, do they have time to slip a CRS flight between launches? Will CRS-2 happen before AsiaSat 6 and 8?
I am thinking a fantasy launch schedule of:
CRS-1 fall
CRS-2 and MDA this winter
AsiaSat 6,8 this spring
CRS-3 late spring, early summer? Edit: Boy do I have rocket exhaust on my face from that one. 2014 is not 2013!
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#50
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Chris Bergin
on 28 Nov, 2012 14:45
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AsiaSat sign up with Sea Launch to provide back up launch services....
Going to write it up, but I need some context here. I assume all sat companies do this, it's not because the last F9 had a public wobble?
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#51
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 28 Nov, 2012 14:54
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AsiaSat sign up with Sea Launch to provide back up launch services....
Going to write it up, but I need some context here. I assume all sat companies do this, it's not because the last F9 had a public wobble?
Yeah, they are used as a back up opportunity for moving the launch if something goes wrong. IIRC, one of SES's communication satellites (Astra 2F) was switched this way from the Proton to on top of an Ariane 5 because the Proton launch schedule was completely full.
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#52
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Chris Bergin
on 28 Nov, 2012 14:59
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Thanks and yep. The interesting thing about this is they used to use Protons, but switched to SpaceX. I wonder if - especially with F9's manifest pretty full and under a bit of strain with the CRS slip - they are readying for another switch to Sea Launch?
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#53
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 28 Nov, 2012 15:04
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Thanks and yep. The interesting thing about this is they used to use Protons, but switched to SpaceX. I wonder if - especially with F9's manifest pretty full and under a bit of strain with the CRS slip - they are readying for another switch to Sea Launch?
I think it's too early to call, given that their launch slot is in 2014.... (there are other commercial satellites queuing in front like SES-8, Thaicom 6 and CASSIOPE next year) On the other hand, Sea Launch seems to be struggling to find customers at this moment, with only about 3-4 launches planned every year, so who knows.
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#54
by
Chris Bergin
on 28 Nov, 2012 15:11
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Good stuff. That sways me more towards the busy manifest "issue" than F9's recent wobble
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#55
by
McDew
on 28 Nov, 2012 16:27
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It more likely due to the launch credits that Asiasat is owed from the Sea Launch bankrupty after they were forced to switch to Proton to get launched. Just as well apply the credits to a launch option without spending any $$$ and Sea Launch can spin it for PR.
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#56
by
Chris Bergin
on 28 Nov, 2012 16:39
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#57
by
SIM city
on 28 Nov, 2012 16:50
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Your article doesn't reflect that they've already signed one backup launch on Proton and now feel they need to back up both SpaceX missions with another option.
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#58
by
Chris Bergin
on 28 Nov, 2012 17:02
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Your article doesn't reflect that they've already signed one backup launch on Proton and now feel they need to back up both SpaceX missions with another option.
It will in a moment when I add that to the article.
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#59
by
McDew
on 28 Nov, 2012 17:20
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