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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.
I don't believe this will be another Spruce Goose, could be a business opportunity...
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company video release:

Stratolaunch First Flight

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Published on Apr 13, 2019

In partnership with Scaled Composites, Stratolaunch successfully completed the first flight of the Stratolaunch aircraft. As part of this initial flight, the pilots evaluated aircraft performance and handling qualities.



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Think this puts the scale of the Roc into perspective:

https://twitter.com/marcushousegame/status/1117250861573402624

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As @DJSnM stated @NASASpaceflight, this Stratolaunch aircraft has a gigantic wingspan (even longer than the Saturn V is tall). Thought I'd put this together to compare.  It is always hard to get an idea of scale until you see something like this (note the insignificant human). 🤔

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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.

Drive up the company's value as an exit strategy for the current investors? New management holding the purse strings would give Stratolaunch the best chance of reaching orbit.
« Last Edit: 04/14/2019 09:56 am by high road »

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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.

Drive up the company's value as an exit strategy for the current investors? New management holding the purse strings would give Stratolaunch the best chance of reaching orbit.

I’d think there’s a reasonable chance of NG buying them out.

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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.

Drive up the company's value as an exit strategy for the current investors? New management holding the purse strings would give Stratolaunch the best chance of reaching orbit.

I’d think there’s a reasonable chance of NG buying them out.

I would think that Virgin Orbit would be more likely to buy the plane/company. They may need a bigger plane if they want to scale up Launcher One (or WhiteKnightTwo for that matter). Northrop Grumman is pursuing Omega which I think will keep them busy and preoccupied for many years to come.

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I would think that Virgin Orbit would be more likely to buy the plane/company. They may need a bigger plane if they want to scale up Launcher One (or WhiteKnightTwo for that matter). Northrop Grumman is pursuing Omega which I think will keep them busy and preoccupied for many years to come.

Not a bigger plane, as LauncherOne is still quite small (57,000lb) for the 747's carrying capacity (upwards of 200,000lb). If Virgin wanted to air launch something double or even triple the size, the 747 is still an option with much more extensive modifications than they've done to date. Possibly quite expensive, but much simpler than Stratolaunch and there's a glut of surplus 747s being retired.

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Congratulations Stratolaunch team!!!

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Bring the thunder!

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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.
I don't believe this will be another Spruce Goose, could be a business opportunity...

I agree. Although the Spruce Goose was intended for carrying troops and tanks across the Atlantic in WW2, the Stratolaunch rocket launch platform is for peacetime purposes. The opportunity will rise for Stratolaunch to fly again when it is used for a rocket launch.

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Nice to see it flying at last. It is a bizarre looking machine but cool in its own way.  8)

But will ever fly again?
Why not? ???

You are familiar with recent Stratolaunch developments, I assume? Most employees were kid off, funding drastically cut back after Allen’s death. A plane with no obvious need. I’m just putting 1 and 1 together here to draw the semi-obvious conclusion, but I hope I am wrong.
Still no reason they would't finish their flight test program...

Other famous aircraft have flown once and never again. But I’m hoping there is more to the program than “fly it once for Paul Allen”.
I don't believe this will be another Spruce Goose, could be a business opportunity...

I agree. Although the Spruce Goose was intended for carrying troops and tanks across the Atlantic in WW2, the Stratolaunch rocket launch platform is for peacetime purposes. The opportunity will rise for Stratolaunch to fly again when it is used for a rocket launch.
The point I am making like the AN-225 which ferried Buran and was a proposed launcher for MAKS it currently serves well as specialized cargo aircraft. Stratolaunch can serve in multi-roles as well, all that is required is "lateral thinking"...
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S***! It actually flies!!!!  :o

..although it seems from the video that landing the thing is kinda interesting, even in zero wind.
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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B-52 solution:
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B-52 solution:

That's the big problem with parachute-assisted landings.. you can't use them in a cross-wind.  And castoring landing gear adds a whole other dimension of complexity.
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Stratolaunch First Flight takeoff


Stratolaunch
Published on Apr 14, 2019

On April 13, 2019, Stratolaunch successfully completed the first flight of the world’s largest all-composite aircraft. With a dual fuselage design and a wingspan greater than the length of an American football field, the Stratolaunch aircraft took flight at 0658 PDT from the Mojave Air & Space Port. Achieving a maximum speed of 189 miles per hour, the plane flew for 2.5 hours over the Mojave Desert at altitudes up to 17,000 feet. As part of the initial flight, the pilots evaluated aircraft performance and handling qualities before landing successfully.

For questions about the use of this video, contact press@stratolaunch .com





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with Bill Harwood

World's biggest airplane takes flight for first time over Mojave desert

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Published on Apr 14, 2019

The 500,000-pound Stratolaunch jet took off for the first time ever for a two-hour flight over California's Mojave desert. It's designed as a flying launch pad for as many as three satellite-laden rockets. CBS News space consultant Bill Harwood joins CBSN to explain why this launch is a benefit to the U.S. in the ongoing space race.





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B-52 solution:

That's the big problem with parachute-assisted landings.. you can't use them in a cross-wind.  And castoring landing gear adds a whole other dimension of complexity.
Cameron, I wasn't referring to using a chute. The B-52 mains don't castor, you actually steer them with a tiller...
He still did a great job for the first landing!
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B-52 solution:

That's the big problem with parachute-assisted landings.. you can't use them in a cross-wind.  And castoring landing gear adds a whole other dimension of complexity.
Cameron, I wasn't referring to using a chute. The B-52 mains don't castor, you actually steer them with a tiller...
For a moment I had wondered myself why they couldn't use parachutes - maybe one from each tail? ..and then the moment passed.  Tiller steering would be even harder, but certainly has it's advantages.

He still did a great job for the first landing!

He did indeed! I can't imagine how difficult it must be to land something with the roll axis so far away from your seat position. Thankfully, I'll never find out. :)
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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I would think that Virgin Orbit would be more likely to buy the plane/company. They may need a bigger plane if they want to scale up Launcher One (or WhiteKnightTwo for that matter). Northrop Grumman is pursuing Omega which I think will keep them busy and preoccupied for many years to come.

Not a bigger plane, as LauncherOne is still quite small (57,000lb) for the 747's carrying capacity (upwards of 200,000lb). If Virgin wanted to air launch something double or even triple the size, the 747 is still an option with much more extensive modifications than they've done to date. Possibly quite expensive, but much simpler than Stratolaunch and there's a glut of surplus 747s being retired.
Clearance under wings maybe more of issue with 747 with larger LVs, also off centre load.

Virgin would need to see how airlaunch works out for LauncherOne. If they did decide Roco could for them with larger LV, it would be few years away.

 

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