ZiYuan-1 (2C) CZ-4B, Taiyuan launch - December 22nd, 2011

  • #3 by Galactic Penguin SST on 13 Dec, 2011 07:56
  • Hmm... what does Mao Zedong's birthday have to do with this launch?  ???
    Looks like December 26th is the new target date for this launch.
  • #4 by Galactic Penguin SST on 20 Dec, 2011 11:46
  • This guy said that the launch is on December 23rd.
  • #5 by Galactic Penguin SST on 21 Dec, 2011 23:42
  • BREAKING NEWS: The launch could happen within the next few hours!  :o
    If the spacecraft is aiming for the same lighting conditions in the Sun-synchronous orbit as the preceding CBERS missions, then the launch time could be around 03:15 UTC, give or take 15 minutes. 
  • #6 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 00:53
  • Looks like it's rather cold there...
  • #7 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 01:53
  • Spectators has arrived at the viewing area...


  • #8 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:06
  • Well if spectators are arriving, that'll be for a launch!

    Great work keeping an eye on this, Galactic Penguin SST! Rui will be alseep, so I'll see if I can write an article :o ;D

    Is this:

    "ZY-1-2C:

    2 HR cameras: spatial resolution: 2.36m Joint swath: 54 km

    Panchromatic multispectral camera: resolution  5m and 10 m, swath  60 km"


    All we have on the satellite?
  • #9 by spacex on 22 Dec, 2011 02:08
  • Nice surprise! If this launch takes places, it will mean that China has for the first time surpassed the US in yearly launches!
  • #10 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:16
  • Well if spectators are arriving, that'll be for a launch!

    Great work keeping an eye on this, Galactic Penguin SST! Rui will be alseep, so I'll see if I can write an article :o ;D

    Is this:

    "ZY-1-2C:

    2 HR cameras: spatial resolution: 2.36m Joint swath: 54 km

    Panchromatic multispectral camera: resolution  5m and 10 m, swath  60 km"


    All we have on the satellite?

    I believe it has few changes from the original Sino-Brazillian CBERS satellite, other than a better data compression ratio...
  • #11 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:18
  • Already at T-5 minutes and counting....
  • #12 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:22
  • Cool. Actually have enough info for an article (thanks to Rui's work on the launch center and the vehicle, so we're good!)

    Will be nice if someone posts a launch image (I'll accredit) otherwise I'll use stock.


    Nice surprise! If this launch takes places, it will mean that China has for the first time surpassed the US in yearly launches!

    That's interesting! This is China's record +2, but what was the year for the US record? I might use that angle :)
  • #13 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:25
  • Cool. Actually have enough info for an article (thanks to Rui's work on the launch center and the vehicle, so we're good!)

    Will be nice if someone posts a launch image (I'll accredit) otherwise I'll use stock.


    Nice surprise! If this launch takes places, it will mean that China has for the first time surpassed the US in yearly launches!

    That's interesting! This is China's record +2, but what was the year for the US record? I might use that angle :)

    There are 18 orbital launches from the US in 2011 (3x STS, 3x Delta II, 3x Delta IV, 5x Atlas V, 2x Minotaur I, 1x Taurus, 1x Minotaur IV). This will be the 19th Chinese orbital launch attempt in 2011 (out of 21 predicted in early 2010!). Last year China and the US tied for 15 orbital launches each.
  • #14 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:27
  • Excellent!
  • #15 by spacex on 22 Dec, 2011 02:32
  • Indeed, both countries have had 1 launch failure each this year. China continues to ramp up its launches by a significant number year after year. This trend looks to continue in the near future. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me, can tell me what year the US had their highest number of orbital launches?

    Cool. Actually have enough info for an article (thanks to Rui's work on the launch center and the vehicle, so we're good!)

    Will be nice if someone posts a launch image (I'll accredit) otherwise I'll use stock.


    Nice surprise! If this launch takes places, it will mean that China has for the first time surpassed the US in yearly launches!

    That's interesting! This is China's record +2, but what was the year for the US record? I might use that angle :)

    There are 18 orbital launches from the US in 2011 (3x STS, 3x Delta II, 3x Delta IV, 5x Atlas V, 2x Minotaur I, 1x Taurus, 1x Minotaur IV). This will be the 19th Chinese orbital launch attempt in 2011 (out of 21 predicted in early 2010!). Last year China and the US tied for 15 orbital launches each.
  • #16 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:35
  • While waiting for news about the launch, here's the Wikipedia article on the original China–Brazil Earth Resources Satellite program, which used the same satellite platform and payloads as the one launching today (the program has moved to new satellites with launch scheduled for late next year).

    spacex: I believe the US has launched more than 50 times per year for some time during the 1960s....
  • #17 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:35
  • I hope this one hasn't gone wrong. Long gap of no news after T-5 mins.
  • #18 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:42
  • Apparently launched. Stand by for news....
  • #19 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:44
  • Launch success!
  • #20 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:45
  • That does look like a launch to me ;) Great photo too. Standing by for confirmation, launch time.

    And there's the confirmation. Launch time outstanding.
  • #21 by spacex on 22 Dec, 2011 02:46
  • Well done to the Chinese. An unprecedented year for them!

    Launch success!
  • #22 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 02:53
  • Two more photos.
  • #23 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:56
  • I'm going with "around 03:30 GMT" - and will refine when confirmation of a T-0 is noted.
  • #24 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 02:59
  • Launch article (I used Rui's content on the vehicle and center).

    http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/12/china-in-surprise-launch-of-long-march-4b-with-ziyuan-1/

    Thanks again to our eagle-eyed Penguin ;D
  • #25 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 03:08
  • And it's an official launch success! Launch occurred at 03:26 UTC.

    BTW Chris, the payload's a civilian Earth observation satellite (it's main user is the Ministry of Land and Resources), unlike the last few ones from Taiyuan. The payload's mass was given as 2100 kg, and the satellite is designed for a 3 year service life.
  • #26 by Chris Bergin on 22 Dec, 2011 03:11
  • Thanks again!
  • #27 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 03:42
  • Some photos of the launch...
  • #28 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 06:57
  • And a launch video (along with interviews of technicians) here: http://news.cntv.cn/china/20111222/117613.shtml

    The exact launch time is 03:26:14.025 UTC.
  • #29 by Lewis007 on 22 Dec, 2011 07:37
  • Some additional pix can be found here:
    http://www.chinanews.com/tp/hd2011/2011/12-22/81233.shtml
  • #30 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 08:53
  • USSTRATCOM has catalogued 2 Objects:

  • Object A /38038/2011-079A (presumably ZY-1-2C) in 761.6 x 769.9 km x 98.55°
  • Object B/38039/2011-079B (presumably CZ-4B 3rd stage) in 474.4 x 768.7 km x 98.44°
  • #31 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 09:08
  • Launch announcement in English from Xinhua
  • #32 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 09:26
  • Local time of the descending node = 10:30:11 am
  • #33 by Satori on 22 Dec, 2011 09:36
  • What a good surprise for wake up!!! Thanks Galactic and input for all the help!
  • #34 by Galactic Penguin SST on 22 Dec, 2011 09:53
  • NORAD is tracking Santa this satellite in a 762 X 770 km X 98.56 deg. orbit.

    And it's Hi-res time!  ;D


  • #35 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 09:54
  • More pictures from an MOD article (in Chinese)
    http://news.mod.gov.cn/headlines/2011-12/22/content_4330242.htm
    Confirmation of achieved orbit as 770km inclined 98.55°
    and confirmation of mass of about 2100 kg and lifetime of 3 years
  • #36 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 10:02
  • 762 X 770 km X 98.56 deg. orbit.
    This is a quote from Dodge on 9ifly for epoch 0645:33UTC, the orbit I calculated above was for epoch 0613:29UTC
  • #37 by Satori on 22 Dec, 2011 13:29
  • From Xinhua, China launches high-resolution remote-sensing satellite
  • #38 by Phillip Clark on 22 Dec, 2011 17:22
  • And it's an official launch success! Launch occurred at 03:26 UTC.
    BTW Chris, the payload's a civilian Earth observation satellite (it's main user is the Ministry of Land and Resources), unlike the last few ones from Taiyuan. The payload's mass was given as 2100 kg, and the satellite is designed for a 3 year service life.

    The CBERS satellites were around 1,450 kg, so this must be a significant upgrade if it's 2,100 kg or so.
  • #39 by input~2 on 22 Dec, 2011 20:24
  • From China Radio International in French
    http://french.cri.cn/781/2011/12/22/304s265191.htm
    Quote
    La Chine vient de lancer avec succès le satellite Ziyuan n°1 02C au  Centre de lancement de satellites de Taiyuan (province du Shanxi). Il  s'agissait du dernier lancement de l'année, tous les 19 lancements ayant  été réussis.
    "all 19 launches having been successful"
    What about CZ-2C on August 18?? ??? :o
    (This statement is not reproduced in CRI pages in other languages like English, German, Spanish or Portuguese)
  • #40 by jcm on 22 Dec, 2011 22:41
  • And it's an official launch success! Launch occurred at 03:26 UTC.
    BTW Chris, the payload's a civilian Earth observation satellite (it's main user is the Ministry of Land and Resources), unlike the last few ones from Taiyuan. The payload's mass was given as 2100 kg, and the satellite is designed for a 3 year service life.

    The CBERS satellites were around 1,450 kg, so this must be a significant upgrade if it's 2,100 kg or so.


    CBERS-2B  (ZY-1 02B?) introduced the 2.5m pan camera. This one doubles that up and replaces the wide field imager with more fairly high res (5 and 10m resolution) cameras. So that's consistent with a fair upgrade.
  • #41 by pargoo on 23 Dec, 2011 04:54
  •      Hi-res launch pics for a high-resolution remote-sensing satellite(!)
         I'm *really* enjoying close-up looks at launchers I've only ever seen teeny weeny postage-stamps of in the past.  The Chinese space program is starting to come to life for me :)
         What has prompted this sudden, unexpected - and very welcome - change of heart?  Dare I be cynical and relate it to the shuttle being killed off?  Let's hope someday we'll see early launches in the same way.
  • #42 by Jason1701 on 23 Dec, 2011 12:35
  • To re-post a question from earlier that interested me: what is the US record for launches in a year?
  • #43 by baldusi on 23 Dec, 2011 14:07
  • As my usual nitpicking of the article:
    Quote
    The rocket is capable of launching a 2,800 kg satellite into low Earth orbit, developing 2,960,000 kN at launch
    Are you sure those are kN? Seems a bit high  :P
  • #44 by Satori on 23 Dec, 2011 14:46
  • As my usual nitpicking of the article:
    Quote
    The rocket is capable of launching a 2,800 kg satellite into low Earth orbit, developing 2,960,000 kN at launch
    Are you sure those are kN? Seems a bit high  :P

    That's a really powerful rocket!!! ;) Its 2,971 kN.
  • #45 by Satori on 23 Dec, 2011 14:49
  • To re-post a question from earlier that interested me: what is the US record for launches in a year?

    I have 73 (Cape Canaveral - 29; Vandenberg - 43; Wallops Island - 1) in 1966.
  • #46 by input~2 on 23 Dec, 2011 19:43
  • ZY-1-2C first image
    (source)
    to be compared with Google Earth image below
  • #47 by Moe Grills on 23 Dec, 2011 21:35
  •   And of course, China has overtaken the United States of America
    in satellite launches.
  • #48 by input~2 on 29 Dec, 2011 09:07

  • #49 by Satori on 29 Dec, 2011 13:29
  • Ok, this one is strange. Why the Brazilian flag if there was «no Brazilian participation» on the mission?
  • #50 by Phillip Clark on 29 Dec, 2011 16:32
  • Ok, this one is strange. Why the Brazilian flag if there was «no Brazilian participation» on the mission?

    Is it for CBERS 3?   That would be the 6th ZY-1 .........
  • #51 by incantado2012 on 29 Dec, 2011 17:03
  • It is a satellite developed by China and Brazil.
  • #52 by liporace on 29 Dec, 2011 23:45
  • Ok, this one is strange. Why the Brazilian flag if there was «no Brazilian participation» on the mission?

    I had the opportunity to hear about this "CBERS-2C" in a talk some months ago. Knowing that there was no Brazilian participation on this particular satellite I asked the presenter (from CEODE) why the "CBERS" name was used. He smiled and said that that is the way they translate 'ZiYuan' for international presentations, and there was a lot of 'paperwork' to be done if a new name was used.

    That maybe explains the Brazilian flag... did they use the same 'marketing' material just replacing 2B by 2C?
  • #53 by liporace on 29 Dec, 2011 23:47
  • Ok, this one is strange. Why the Brazilian flag if there was «no Brazilian participation» on the mission?

    Is it for CBERS 3?   That would be the 6th ZY-1 .........

    This is not CBERS 3. I suspect that it uses the same panchromatic camera though, from what I read from the specs.
  • #54 by input~2 on 01 Jan, 2012 15:59
  • Another first image taken on Dec 23.
    To be compared with Google Earth (from DigitalGlobe on Sept 6, 2007) below.
    (source)
  • #55 by limen4 on 02 Jan, 2012 10:55
  • Images from China TV (http://vod.mlr.gov.cn/spxw/201112/t20111229_1051742.htm) indicate a slightly different design of ZY-1(2C) - 2 solar arrays.
  • #56 by input~2 on 02 Jan, 2012 16:54
  • Images from China TV (http://vod.mlr.gov.cn/spxw/201112/t20111229_1051742.htm) indicate a slightly different design of ZY-1(2C) - 2 solar arrays.
    Not sure if this is meant to be a true representation of ZY-1-2C.
    There are many references pointing to a one-wing only solar array for this S/C.
  • #57 by Satori on 01 Mar, 2012 13:11
  • From Xinhua, China's advanced remote sensing satellite operating soundly.
  • #58 by limen4 on 19 Apr, 2012 19:26
  • Images from China TV (http://vod.mlr.gov.cn/spxw/201112/t20111229_1051742.htm) indicate a slightly different design of ZY-1(2C) - 2 solar arrays.
    Not sure if this is meant to be a true representation of ZY-1-2C.
    There are many references pointing to a one-wing only solar array for this S/C.

    During the recent In-Orbit-Delivery-Ceremony for ZY-1(2C)
    ( Source ) a two-winged spacecraft was shown at the right wall side.

  • #59 by limen4 on 02 Dec, 2012 11:29
  • ZY-1(2C) at Zhuhai Aerospace Exhibition (source: http://scitech.people.com.cn/n/2012/1113/c1007-19568195-13.html).
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