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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #180 on: 06/10/2012 11:26 am »
This site http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2012-06-10/013924565621.shtml points to a June 16 launch date.

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #181 on: 06/10/2012 12:55 pm »
Rumors on 9ifly that the chosen feminine taikonaut is Wang Yaping.

This choice is not very strange because Yaping seams to have a Tereshkova's like past. Her family has a rural background. Her parents are peasants that plant cherries and her two sisters still live with their parents. Yaping left home and made a military career becoming cargo plane pilot. Her choice would be a PR and propaganda boost to the Chinese space program. On the other hand, Liu Yang family has some military connections and her choice could make some damage to the program.
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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #182 on: 06/10/2012 06:55 pm »
Ahem. English translation please?
An old Russian saying, from the Soviet era:

Optimists study English.
Pessimists study Chinese.
Realists study the Kalashnikov rifle gun.

Couldn't resist, really :-)
This message reflects my personal opinion based on open sources of information.

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #183 on: 06/10/2012 09:55 pm »
CCTV news is reporting tonight that Tiangong-1 has been moved into a lower orbit and that "on June 16 three astronauts, including a woman, will board the Shenzhou-9, blasting off into space".

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #184 on: 06/11/2012 03:57 am »
Here are the two crews.


From left, Wang Yaping, ??, NieHaisheng, Liu Yang, ??, Jing Haipen

I do not recognise the unknown men from previous images.

Crew 1
Nie Haisheng
??
Wang Yaping

Crew 2
Jing Haipen
??
Liu Yang

There is no indication of which crew is prime and which is back-up.
On 9ifly they have an image of the crew 2 planting a tree, but I don't attach any significance to this, as I imagine they all plant trees.

Would someone as senior as Nie Haisheng be asked to serve a backup again? 
« Last Edit: 06/11/2012 05:26 am by tonyq »

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Two more photos of one of the crews planting trees at JSLC:
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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #186 on: 06/11/2012 05:44 am »
How new is this?

Chinese female astronaut to join Shenzhou-9 docking mission
English.news.cn | 2012-06-11 11:46:44 | Editor: Lu Hui
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/photo/2012-06/11/c_131644304.htm

One of the two female astronauts, Liu Yang(L) and Wang Yaping (R), from the Wuhan Flight Unit, will join Shenzhou-9 manned spacecraft docking mission with Tiangong-1 spacecraft in mid-June. They are selected as members of  the first batch of female astronauts in China because of their excellent flight skills and psychological quality.

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #187 on: 06/11/2012 07:04 am »
Here are the two crews.


From left, Wang Yaping, ??, NieHaisheng, Liu Yang, ??, Jing Haipen

I do not recognise the unknown men from previous images.

Crew 1
Nie Haisheng
??
Wang Yaping

Crew 2
Jing Haipen
??
Liu Yang

There is no indication of which crew is prime and which is back-up.
On 9ifly they have an image of the crew 2 planting a tree, but I don't attach any significance to this, as I imagine they all plant trees.

Would someone as senior as Nie Haisheng be asked to serve a backup again? 

Thanks tonyq.
Between this and your speculation on the other thread, is it fair to speculate that the crews are:

Prime: Nie Haisheng (CDR), Chen Quan, Wang Yaping
Back-up: Jing Haipeng (CDR), Liu Wang, Liu Yang

Sorry for mixing threads.

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #188 on: 06/11/2012 07:13 am »
The speculation on the other thread was without the photos, and Chen Quan and Liu Wang were just educated guesses. I'm not sure who the two unflown guys pictured today are are. The guy in Nie's crew could be Chen Quan, but I'm not sure.

I would say that it is 75% sure that you have the crews the right way round, for three reasons:-
1. Nie is a very senior guy, and I don't think they would have him as a back-up for the second successive mission
2. Jing Hiapeng probably unlikely to fly consecutive missions, especially ahead of Nie
3. There is a lot of speculation on Chinese and some English forums that Wang Yaping will be the first woman. Many of these posters are claiming their sources as people close to JSLC.

However we can't be 100% sure until an official announcement   

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #189 on: 06/11/2012 09:43 am »
I'm not saying the Chinese are following exactly the same traditions than the russians but...

Here are the two crews.
From left, Wang Yaping, ??, NieHaisheng, Liu Yang, ??, Jing Haipen

Russians (and foreigners flying on a Soyuz) only plant trees if they are prime crew and they haven't been launched from Baikonur previously

Two more photos of one of the crews planting trees at JSLC:


Watching the picture planting trees, the man on the right is Jing Haipen, and watching the haircut of the woman (is short on her ear side) I think isn't the identified as Wang Yaping on the “two crews together” picture.

Hope the Chinese authorities will announce crews soon... :)

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Hot off the presses:

Crew 1: Nie Haisheng, Zhang Xiaoguan, Wang Yaping

Crew 2: Jing Haipeng, Liu Wang, Liu Yang

I wonder which crew is going up...  ::)

Source: http://www.huanqiu.com/
« Last Edit: 06/11/2012 09:50 am by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G, Jiuquan, June 2012 launch
« Reply #192 on: 06/11/2012 11:30 am »
From the 9ifly Chinese space forum, the Shenzhou-9 crew mission patch.

Seems this is the patch that will be worn by engineers; the official crew patch looks much better, though we don't have a detailed photo yet...
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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #194 on: 06/11/2012 08:59 pm »
Has there been any mention of the names of the three taikonauts of the third crew (support crew)?
"I still don't understand who I am: the first human or the last dog in space." - Yuri Gagarin

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #195 on: 06/12/2012 07:38 am »
According to an English language report on CCTV, the female crew member will be designated 'Mission Expert', and will undertake an experiment programme on TG-1. It doesn't sound as if they have an active role in flying Shenzhou.

This suggests that, although both are Air Force pilots, their accelerated training ( recruitment to launch in two years) results in the capabilty to serve as an MS or SFP, in NASA/Roskosmos language.

Presumably, this means that, as well as flying a woman for publicity or political purposes, the Chinese will also have demonstrated a capabilty to train and fly engineers, doctors, or other specialists, to TG-2 and TG-3, without taking them out of their mainstream career for many years.  Neat!
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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #197 on: 06/12/2012 10:47 am »
Looks like the rumors about the Jing Haipeng, Liu Wang, Liu Yang crew are getting bigger

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #198 on: 06/12/2012 11:01 am »
news.ifeng.com is saying that SZ-10 Shenzhou-10 can be launched before the end of the year.

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Re: SZ-9 Shenzhou 9, CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 16, 2012 launch
« Reply #199 on: 06/12/2012 11:01 am »
So how does this work?

Nobody knows until they walk over to the pad?

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