LIVE: Proton-M launch with Luch-5A and AMOS-5 - 11 december 2011

  • #128 by input~2 on 14 Dec, 2011 16:42
  • USSTRATCOM has now confirmed catalog entries for both satellites:
    37950     AMOS 5     2011-074A         
    37951     LUCH 5A     2011-074B
  • #129 by Stan Black on 14 Dec, 2011 17:12
  • And do you know what the "H" stands for ?
    From an ISS Reshetnev PDF from 2007, they had this platforms:
    Express-1000A: Loutch-5A/B
    Express-1000K: Express-MD/AT2
    Express-1000H: Amos-5/Telekom-3/Yamal-300K
    Express-1000SH: Express-AM8/AT1
    Express-2000: Express-AM5/AM6

    The PDF is badly exporte, but it seemed like the K and H could put a second satellite on top. The K is the smallest one, the H is next, the SH is lengthened yet, and last the 2000 is the biggest one.
    Since the export didn't put some letters, I'm assuming K can be stack upto three on a Proton-M with Briz-M or DM-03 US, the H can take two, and the SH can take a secondary >1200kg satellite, ll with the above stated Proton-M.

    Yamal-300K now an Ekspress-1000NTA platform
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=1211
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.ru/images/File/newspaper/2011/243.pdf

    Lybid is to be based on an Ekspress-1000NT
    http://www.npopm.ru/images/File/newspaper/2011/247.pdf

    http://www.ciemat.es/sweb/Spain-ISTC-STCU/22abril/ISS.pdf

    http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=1133.msg685726#msg685726
  • #130 by jcm on 15 Dec, 2011 14:47
  • Could our Russian colleagues step in and tell us what is the correct designation of Amos-5 platform in English?

    Ekspress-1000H.


    Well, three are two different questions, what does Reshetnev call it in English when they write English copy, and what is the Russian name for it.
    It would not be unprecedented for the name used by the manufacturer for a satellite in English is not a direct transliteration of the name used by them in the original language.

     So Andrey, you are saying that when we see  "Экспресс-1000Н" in a Russian document, the "Н" is an English H and not a Cyrillic N ?. Just trying to super-clarify here! You can see why we might be confused!
  • #131 by input~2 on 16 Dec, 2011 05:16
  • Even Reshetnev seems to get confused:
    This page has both Express-1000N and Express-1000H in two consecutive sentences! ::)
  • #132 by anik on 16 Dec, 2011 06:22
  • So Andrey, you are saying that when we see "Экспресс-1000Н" in a Russian document, the "Н" is an English H and not a Cyrillic N?

    Jonathan, I do not know exactly, but if I see Экспресс-1000SH platform in Russian, I understand that it is Ekspress-1000SH in English, so H in Russian is H in English in this case.
  • #133 by Stan Black on 16 Dec, 2011 06:43
  • Express-1000H
    http://www.saftbatteries.com/saft/uploadedfiles/pressoffice/2008/cp_40-08_en.pdf
  • #134 by jcm on 16 Dec, 2011 21:24
  • So Andrey, you are saying that when we see "Экспресс-1000Н" in a Russian document, the "Н" is an English H and not a Cyrillic N?

    Jonathan, I do not know exactly, but if I see Экспресс-1000SH platform in Russian, I understand that it is Ekspress-1000SH in English, so H in Russian is H in English in this case.

    That's a fair argument -  Jonathan
  • #135 by Stan Black on 17 Dec, 2011 06:07
  • The contract announcements from 2008

    Контракт на поставку спутниковой системы AMOS 5 вступил в силу
    Cyrillic - Н
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=617

    The contract on AMOS 5 satellite system delivery has come into force
    Western - H
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=86



    Работы по созданию спутника AMOS-5
    Cyrillic - Н
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=759

    AMOS-5: Progress of Work
    Western - H
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=125



    ОАО «ИСС» создаст спутник для Индонезии
    Cyrillic - Н
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=633

    JSC «ISS» is creating a new satellite for Indonesia
    Western - H
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=89



    ОАО «ИСС» создает новый спутник связи «Ямал-300К»
    Cyrillic - Н
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=758

    ISS-Reshetnev to build a new communications satellite
    Western - H
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=124



    ОАО «ИСС» построит спутник для Казахстана
    Cyrillic - Н
    http://www.npopm.ru/?cid=news&nid=1304

    ISS-Reshetnev to build a satellite for Kazakhstan
    Western - H
    http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/?cid=news&nid=206
  • #136 by input~2 on 21 Dec, 2011 19:30
  • Still no data published on 37952 / 2011-074C (Briz-M)
  • #137 by Danderman on 10 Feb, 2012 02:29
  • So ... when is Luch going to provide transmission service for the ISS Russian segment?
  • #138 by anik on 10 Feb, 2012 07:10
  • So ... when is Luch going to provide transmission service for the ISS Russian segment?

    Some equipment for tests was delivered by Progress M-14M. All other equipment will arrive later. Beginning of transmissions will be since 2013 likely.
  • #139 by Danderman on 21 Mar, 2012 13:27
  • http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.rss.html?pid=40330

    Preparatory to the planned launch of more Russian Luch (Altair) communications satellites, Oleg Kononenko used the FSH3 spectrum analyzer to perform another characterization test on the Lira antenna feeder, taking parameter measurements via S-band & VHF. [The Lira system is a two-way communication system between the ISS RS and TsUP Mission Control via the Russian Luch relay satellite system (when it is complete). The RS comm subsystem can receive commands directly from RGS (Russian Ground Station) through the Regul subsystem and can receive commands from the Luch satellite through Lira or Regul. Efforts are underway to rebuild the Luch relay satellite system after many years of funds-related absence. Luch-5A was successfully launched on a Proton on 12/11/2011. Luch-5B & Luch 4 are scheduled for launch this year and 2013. This should provide the RS with 45 minutes of coverage per orbit via Lira and Regul.]

    Maybe someone can explain the difference between Lira and Regul.  There is a description of Regul further on in the notes, but its still not clear:

    In the SM, FE-4 Kononenko made preparations for tomorrow's scheduled R&R (removal & replacement) of the SA-325-I transmitter unit of the Regul-OS, gathering equipment & tools. [Located in the SM, Regul-OS is a subsystem of the RSUS Radio Control & Comm System of the RS (Russian Segment) for handling two-way voice communication, digital command/program information, and telemetry transmission via Russian RGS (Groundsites). Regul is the nominal uplink channel for all Russian commands; operating at a low data rate, it is equivalent to the US S-band system. The SA-325 block to be removed tomorrow is one of three redundant transmitters, each containing a transceiver (PPA) and Digital Processor (UtsO).]
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