Quote from: ugordan on 01/17/2012 07:55 amThe indefinite delay quality of this announcement is what reminds me of the F9-01 FTS saga all over again.I'm lost in acronym hell. What does 'FTS' stand for again?
The indefinite delay quality of this announcement is what reminds me of the F9-01 FTS saga all over again.
Flight termination system.
Quote from: yg1968 on 01/17/2012 05:58 pmJones doesn't seem to be a fan of commercial crew or of Obama:http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/nasa/4344602 QuoteAfter the shuttle orbiters retire late this year, American astronauts will rent seats on Russian rockets headed to the ISS. We won't field an alternative spacecraft for five years or more. The president will instead farm out the nation's access to low Earth orbit to commercial firms. None of the rockets NASA has contracted to deliver cargo to the ISS has flown, and betting our nation's sole access to space on industry's ability to replicate fifty years of NASA experience on the fly is unwise. NASA should fly a new crewed spacecraft as quickly as possible, then move to commercial firms once they have a proven record of reliable cargo services. What's the point of linking this two year old article here in this thread now?You may not like his tone or his perscription but even today, nearly two years later, this statement still pretty much holds true.
Jones doesn't seem to be a fan of commercial crew or of Obama:http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/nasa/4344602 QuoteAfter the shuttle orbiters retire late this year, American astronauts will rent seats on Russian rockets headed to the ISS. We won't field an alternative spacecraft for five years or more. The president will instead farm out the nation's access to low Earth orbit to commercial firms. None of the rockets NASA has contracted to deliver cargo to the ISS has flown, and betting our nation's sole access to space on industry's ability to replicate fifty years of NASA experience on the fly is unwise. NASA should fly a new crewed spacecraft as quickly as possible, then move to commercial firms once they have a proven record of reliable cargo services.
After the shuttle orbiters retire late this year, American astronauts will rent seats on Russian rockets headed to the ISS. We won't field an alternative spacecraft for five years or more. The president will instead farm out the nation's access to low Earth orbit to commercial firms. None of the rockets NASA has contracted to deliver cargo to the ISS has flown, and betting our nation's sole access to space on industry's ability to replicate fifty years of NASA experience on the fly is unwise. NASA should fly a new crewed spacecraft as quickly as possible, then move to commercial firms once they have a proven record of reliable cargo services.
Quote from: OV-106 on 01/17/2012 06:16 pmQuote from: yg1968 on 01/17/2012 05:58 pmJones doesn't seem to be a fan of commercial crew or of Obama:http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/space/nasa/4344602 QuoteAfter the shuttle orbiters retire late this year, American astronauts will rent seats on Russian rockets headed to the ISS. We won't field an alternative spacecraft for five years or more. The president will instead farm out the nation's access to low Earth orbit to commercial firms. None of the rockets NASA has contracted to deliver cargo to the ISS has flown, and betting our nation's sole access to space on industry's ability to replicate fifty years of NASA experience on the fly is unwise. NASA should fly a new crewed spacecraft as quickly as possible, then move to commercial firms once they have a proven record of reliable cargo services. What's the point of linking this two year old article here in this thread now?You may not like his tone or his perscription but even today, nearly two years later, this statement still pretty much holds true. I find that it's important to understand a person's bias. So I linked the article as background information to his comments on SpaceX and on commercial cargo and crew in general. I don't disagree with most of what he said in the video. But to indicate that this delay could suggest that a mistake in strategy was made is going a bit far.
I see. I find that quite funny actually, given your bias, that you feel supposedly "anti-commercial" people need to be outed and shown to be something they are not. When you do the same but from just a different perspective by running around throughout the forum shouting how more government money should be given to commercial at every opportunity and that, generally speaking, everything else is wrong and Obama was "oh so right" on everything. The statement above is quite correct and a very bad strategy has been put in motion that we will take years to recover, if ever. He did not say he was against commercial but, instead, just a smarter implimentation.
Obama made it sound like "commercial" was here and ready.
Quote from: OV-106 on 01/18/2012 12:17 amObama made it sound like "commercial" was here and ready. Yes, but these words didn't come from Obama: For cargo transport to the Space Station after 2010, NASA will rely on existing or new commercial cargo transport systems, as well as international partner cargo transport systems.That comes from the 2004 Vision for Space Exploration, page 15. The President then was George W. Bush; the NASA Administrator was Sean O'Keefe. We've been waiting for the equivalent of COTS Demo 3 for eight years; we can wait just a little bit longer.
T-2 months and holding...
If this tweet is to be believed, the new tentative date is March 20.
But from March 16 to March 31 there is only one US Astronaut on the ISS.That means no chance for berthing Dragon.
Quote from: Olaf on 01/19/2012 10:32 pmBut from March 16 to March 31 there is only one US Astronaut on the ISS.That means no chance for berthing Dragon.True - good point.
Quote from: Space Pete on 01/19/2012 10:37 pmQuote from: Olaf on 01/19/2012 10:32 pmBut from March 16 to March 31 there is only one US Astronaut on the ISS.That means no chance for berthing Dragon.True - good point.Question:Why would there have to more than one US astronaut on ISS for berthing Dragon?
