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#20
by
edkyle99
on 04 Aug, 2011 15:40
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Here's the fourth contestant.
Many seem to hate Ares I/Liberty based merely on its looks.
I submit that Atlas V/CST-100 looks good on paper, but is butt-ugly in appearance - one of the ugliest rocket/payload combinations yet seen! A repulsive stump! Liberty is a graceful beauty by comparison.

Then again, they all look good when flying.
- Ed Kyle
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#21
by
simonbp
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:00
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(Bump as it's 9:00 PDT)
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#22
by
Jason1701
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:00
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#23
by
simonbp
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:03
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If NASA selects Boeing for a development contract with sufficient funding, ULA will provide launch services for an autonomous orbital flight, a transonic autonomous abort test launch, and a crewed launch, all in 2015.
Whoa, they're actually going to do an in-flight abort test? That'll be interesting...
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#24
by
Alpha Control
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:05
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Indeed. I also like how the CST-100 capsule is a "capsule-shaped spacecraft".
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#25
by
Namechange User
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:05
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"If NASA selects Boeing for a development contract with sufficient funding....".
Ah yes, commercial space flight is here.
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#26
by
Herb Schaltegger
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:05
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If NASA selects Boeing for a development contract with sufficient funding, ULA will provide launch services for an autonomous orbital flight, a transonic autonomous abort test launch, and a crewed launch, all in 2015.
Whoa, they're actually going to do an in-flight abort test? That'll be interesting...
Well, there's the rub.
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#27
by
Chris Bergin
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:06
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#28
by
Jason1701
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:08
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George Sowers: CST-100 will use the Atlas 5 412 configuration (one solid strap-on, dual-engine Centaur).
(Jeff Foust)
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#29
by
Namechange User
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:08
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"Initial" - hmmm!
That's the point of being "launch vehicle agnostic". If they can get better rates with various vendors they'll jump to wherever. No surprise that they went with Atlas first though.
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#30
by
Lee Jay
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:09
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If NASA selects Boeing for a development contract with sufficient funding, ULA will provide launch services for an autonomous orbital flight, a transonic autonomous abort test launch, and a crewed launch, all in 2015.
Whoa, they're actually going to do an in-flight abort test? That'll be interesting...
Couldn't it be this same approach?
http://www.orbital.com/HumanSpaceExplorationSystems/HumanSpaceSystems/OrionATB/
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#31
by
Space Pete
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:11
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Atlas V is fast becoming my favourite unmanned rocket. That is all.
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#32
by
Dappa
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:12
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Atlas V is fast becoming my favourite unmanned rocket. That is all. 
Atlas V is fast becoming my favourite manned rocket!

(post-shuttle)
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#33
by
simonbp
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:13
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The Orion ATB is like Little Joe I and Little Joe II before it in that it's a specifically-designed booster that is nearly exhausted when the abort test takes place. What Boeing is doing is launching a full-up orbital Atlas with the intent to have range-safety blow it up mid-flight. That's ballsy.
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#34
by
Alpha Control
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:13
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So what does the future hold for the Delta IV? Looks like it's the loser in all the CCDEV choices. Is there enough other business for it to remain viable?
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#35
by
Rocket Science
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:14
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Well that was predictable...
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#36
by
Lee Jay
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:15
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The Orion ATB is like Little Joe I and Little Joe II before it in that it's a specifically-designed booster that is nearly exhausted when the abort test takes place. What Boeing is doing is launching a full-up orbital Atlas with the intent to have range-safety blow it up mid-flight. That's ballsy.
Does it say that somewhere? I didn't see that in the release but maybe it's well-known from elsewhere.
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#37
by
Jim
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:15
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So what does the future hold for the Delta IV? Looks like it's the loser in all the CCDEV choices. Is there enough other business for it to remain viable?
Its existence is not contingent on commercial crew.
CCDev is not the proper term. It is only a development project
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#38
by
Rocket Science
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:16
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The Orion ATB is like Little Joe I and Little Joe II before it in that it's a specifically-designed booster that is nearly exhausted when the abort test takes place. What Boeing is doing is launching a full-up orbital Atlas with the intent to have range-safety blow it up mid-flight. That's ballsy.
Can I push the button?
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#39
by
TimL
on 04 Aug, 2011 16:16
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Been mine since being there in attendance for the very first flight. She's just plain ol' sexy in the copper skin and can't beat that leap off the pad in the 551 configuration!