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#120
by
collectSPACE
on 25 Dec, 2011 22:38
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From what we've seen so far, I don't think that the plans for how each orbiter will be displayed has much bearing on what equipment is being removed or installed.
In Atlantis' case, weight is a factor. Based on the angle at which KSCVC plans to mount and display the orbiter, they need Atlantis to shed as much mass as possible, which, according to NASA, is what led to the decision to remove the airlock.
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#121
by
Chris Bergin
on 31 Dec, 2011 21:33
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#122
by
brettreds2k
on 04 Jan, 2012 18:32
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Technicians in Orbiter Processing Facility-2 are deservicing Atlantis’ water coolant loop #1. Removal of the space shuttle orbiter radio and various battery backup units are also in work.
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#123
by
gordo
on 05 Jan, 2012 11:03
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It's a shame weight is an issue, as it would have been nice to have a spacehab module in the bay, as the were a local campany to KSC.
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#124
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Ronsmytheiii
on 05 Jan, 2012 14:54
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It's a shame weight is an issue, as it would have been nice to have a spacehab module in the bay, as the were a local campany to KSC.
Well the company still exists, just changed its name to Astrotech.
But agree about the weight issue, wonder if KSCVC will keep the payload bay doors closed if they really cant show any payloads.
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#125
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brettreds2k
on 05 Jan, 2012 15:07
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From all the designs they have shown, she will have her bay doors open to look like she is on a mission, will have a space back drop behind her.
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#126
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 05 Jan, 2012 15:16
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From all the designs they have shown, she will have her bay doors open to look like she is on a mission, will have a space back drop behind her.
That is what they desired, but with the amount of items that have to be removed for practical reasons there wont be that much to see with the doors open, so I wouldn't be surprised if KSVC decides to keep the doors closed. Designs and renderings are great, but usually the finished product is different as engineering and reality set in.
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#127
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brettreds2k
on 05 Jan, 2012 15:27
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I didn't think you would really be able to see inside the cargo bay per say with the angle it was at, I thought you'd more see the bay doors but not really inside (They weren't planning any gantry walk ways that high up I didn't think)
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#128
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Ronsmytheiii
on 05 Jan, 2012 15:36
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I didn't think you would really be able to see inside the cargo bay per say with the angle it was at, I thought you'd more see the bay doors but not really inside (They weren't planning any gantry walk ways that high up I didn't think)
HEre is the rendering, I guess you can't really see where the airlock would have been but you can see the rest. Now I guess if they can support the RMS from the ceiling the weight should be negligible, but hasnt NASA reserved two arms (and Candada received another back to display)? Also, if weight is an issue then I cant really see a MPLM going in the bay, meaning it is going to look in a sad state...... Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.
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#129
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brettreds2k
on 05 Jan, 2012 16:28
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Yeah I see what your saying, I hope they have her with the bay doors open but only if she can be displayed looking proud, not in some sorry dismantled state in her cargo bay
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#130
by
Space Pete
on 05 Jan, 2012 16:31
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Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.
I highly doubt it, since numerous BEO exploration plans of late have included MPLMs as habs - and we know that anything from the Shuttle program that could be of future use is being saved.
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#131
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psloss
on 05 Jan, 2012 17:19
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Yeah I see what your saying, I hope they have her with the bay doors open but only if she can be displayed looking proud, not in some sorry dismantled state in her cargo bay
Shouldn't be an issue on display, since the inner workings were hidden by payload bay liners during missions. It's similar to the aft compartment -- one can't tell from outside what's behind the closeouts.
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#132
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brettreds2k
on 05 Jan, 2012 18:03
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Thats what I was thinking, they would just put the cargo bay flooring panels back down and it would look as it would for operational flight.
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#133
by
psloss
on 05 Jan, 2012 18:31
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Thats what I was thinking, they would just put the cargo bay flooring panels back down and it would look as it would for operational flight.
The point was the liners hide any level of dismantling, just as with the closeouts in the back. Several things could be removed to help reduce weight for display and we won't be able to tell from the outside. Her looks will be deceiving in some ways, because from the outside she might look like she could still fly when she rolls down the road later this year (which is likely one of the intents of the different displays).
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#134
by
Ronsmytheiii
on 05 Jan, 2012 18:59
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webcams back on, Explorer is still waiting for her barge ride to Houston
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#135
by
brettreds2k
on 05 Jan, 2012 19:08
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They had one of the Webcams on Endeavour in the VAB, but now that one is gone, I wish they left it on her so when they did the swap we could see it in the webcam.
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#136
by
collectSPACE
on 05 Jan, 2012 20:18
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Maybe Robert can answer whether or not KSCVC will get a MPLM.
My understanding is that Atantis' exhibit does not include an MPLM. Keep in mind the artwork was created before Atlantis was awarded to KSCVC and without the benefit of the additional engineering details they received after the announcement.
Regardless of how it is finally configured for exhibit, to the public, it will appear as though Atlantis is still intact, i.e. there won't be open or exposed panels (and that's true for Discovery and Endeavour, too).
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#137
by
psloss
on 05 Jan, 2012 22:45
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Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
NASA TV is running a Video File item of this today, should replay at least a few more times overnight into tomorrow.
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#138
by
Mapperuo
on 07 Jan, 2012 04:37
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Also, last views of the cockpit powered up
NASA TV is running a Video File item of this today, should replay at least a few more times overnight into tomorrow.
Found it on YT:
Quite sad.
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#139
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brettreds2k
on 09 Jan, 2012 13:37
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In Orbiter Processing Facility-2, deservicing of Atlantis’ freon coolant loop #2 is scheduled to begin tomorrow.
