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#140
by
Mike_1179
on 08 Jul, 2011 12:48
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What do the green areas actually represent? Moisture, clouds, electrical activity?
thanks
The post you are referring to (with green) is a water vapor plot. Brown is low water vapor and green is high.
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#141
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 13:19
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#142
by
Bubbinski
on 08 Jul, 2011 13:33
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Are the odds still 70% no go? Or have they improved?
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#143
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 13:36
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I might improve them in an hour but want to see what the morning sun starts doing with clouds... Certainly not out of the woods with all the moisture in place.
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#144
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 13:54
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#145
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 13:55
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#146
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 14:05
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#147
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 14:36
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Still plenty of rain showers in the RTLS zone. They are light enough that it's possible the STA could clear the area anyways, but right now it's a red on paper. Unfortunately the scanner feed that normally carries weather recon is streaming NASA TV, so we won't hear them. I just dropped the provider a note to see if he can lock out NASA TV.
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#148
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 14:47
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Plenty of lighting near Tampa but that should stay far enough west to not be an impact of anvil clouds. Not much cloudiness to worry about otherwise, it's just a wait-n-see on the showers.
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#149
by
PahTo
on 08 Jul, 2011 14:48
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PAO Diller just said "cautiously optimistic" IF there's no convective build up with expected passing zones of moisture. STA has the waiver book out for sure!
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#150
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 14:54
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Looking at that little area over Merritt Island...Weather recon checking that out. The large area to the NW doesn't appear to be a problem.
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#151
by
psloss
on 08 Jul, 2011 15:05
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That area does appear to have dissipated...the weather seems about as good as it could be given the overall conditions.
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#152
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 15:06
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There are some weak echoes aloft that the KSC radar is too close to see. But if they aren't reaching the ground that's good.
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#153
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 15:13
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More sprinkles quickly forming in the area.
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#154
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 15:16
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Could be some showers but anything bad enough to prevent RTLS should not be a concern.
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#155
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 15:43
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Weather was no-go at launch time due to RTLS showers, but we launched anyways so everyone wins

SPECI KTTS 081529Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW015 FEW032 BKN120 BKN150 BKN200 29/24 A2997 RMK SLP149 1CU 1CU /0/ 5AC 1AC 7CS /7/ N2014/20 C2012/17 S1708/14
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#156
by
stuart_wildcat
on 08 Jul, 2011 19:45
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Weather was no-go at launch time due to RTLS showers, but we launched anyways so everyone wins 
SPECI KTTS 081529Z 20014G20KT 10SM FEW015 FEW032 BKN120 BKN150 BKN200 29/24 A2997 RMK SLP149 1CU 1CU /0/ 5AC 1AC 7CS /7/ N2014/20 C2012/17 S1708/14
Sure...use that trick to pad your stats! Definitely a testiment to everyone on this thread saying "hang on" to the people saying "why even bother?"
Going out to the Astronaut Hall of Fame I still wasn't very positive but things got brighter as the morning wore on. I had been thinking "rdale is going to have to eat crow for this one" but I see he finds a way to avoid that. Just kidding, great work for everyone giving us the info on the weather and keeping the ray of hope the last few days.
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#157
by
rdale
on 08 Jul, 2011 19:53
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Thank goodness for those RTLS sprinkles

My guess is that the tropical wave to the west drew the moisture in more on that side of the state so allowed the east side to clear out.
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#158
by
robertross
on 08 Jul, 2011 20:15
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Thanks for the weather updates Rob.
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#159
by
srm
on 08 Jul, 2011 22:30
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Ddale, we were the stupid-idiots who listened to you last night and decided not to waste our time by making the 4-hour drive to Orlando for our Gator connection. From what we witness on TV this morning, which showed a huge crowd at Kennedy Space Center, maybe the only idiots who hung onto your words since they were spoken by a man-in-the-know, an expert. Yes, it was our decision not to go…..but weren’t you aware that people (as stupid as us) were following you and believed in your professional opinion. Remember, you said at one time….zero probability!
I cannot believe we bought causeway tickets and missed the last launch EVER…..lesson learned. If there is even a .0000005% chance of a favorable outcome, we’re taking it.
Now back to moping…