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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #80 on: 12/30/2017 05:20 pm »
РД171М
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On the rollout video for Angosat 1 is to see "A 164".
Has anyone recognized the rocket serial number on the pictures?
Per http://russianspaceweb.com/2017.html
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Zenit-3SLBF No. SLB80.5/Fregat No. 2006
Thank you !
I am looking for the long serial number.
I found it on Rui's page:
Зенит-2SБ80 70103403 (SLБ80.5)/2006

http://www.orbita.zenite.nu/russia-lanca-satelite-de-comunicacoes-para-angola/

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #81 on: 12/30/2017 05:24 pm »
Other Zenit 2SB serial numbers:

https://www.kosmonavtika.com/lanceurs/zenit/liste/z2sb.html

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #82 on: 01/02/2018 05:57 pm »
http://russianspaceweb.com/sea-launch-2018.html
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Unbooked flights

The Sea Launch flight manifest was posted without much fanfare on the Russian-language version of the corporate web site for the Sea Launch venture, apparently, shortly after the successful campaign to launch the Zenit rocket with the Angosat-1 satellite on Dec. 26, 2017.

Although the schedule detailed all the launch dates with accuracy to a month, it listed no customers or their payloads to be carried during any of these missions. It was unclear, whether Sea Launch was in negotiations with any potential riders at the time.

The description accompanying the schedule also said that the permanent office of the S7 company had been established at the home port of the Sea Launch vessels in Long Beach, California, to handle the tasks of re-activating the facility and resuming launch operations. Based on estimates from a monitoring group, the complex would be ready for operations in 2018, the S7 Group said.

The company also announced that the Russian firms RKK Energia, Roskosmos State Corporation and the Ukraine-based Zenit manufacturer Yuzhmash would be partners in Sea Launch, which would be managed from Moscow by the S7 KTS company, also known as S7 Space.

Sea Launch flight manifest as of December 2017:

Mission   Launch date   Payload
1   2019 December   ?
2   2020 April   ?
3   2020 July   ?
4   2020 December   ?
5   2021 March   ?
6   2021 June   ?
7   2021 September   ?
8   2021 December   ?
9   2022 March   ?
10   2022 June   ?
11   2022 September   ?
12   2022 December   ?

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #83 on: 01/02/2018 08:58 pm »
http://russianspaceweb.com/sea-launch-2018.html
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Unbooked flights

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The description accompanying the schedule also said that the permanent office of the S7 company had been established at the home port of the Sea Launch vessels in Long Beach, California, to handle the tasks of re-activating the facility and resuming launch operations. Based on estimates from a monitoring group, the complex would be ready for operations in 2018, the S7 Group said.

Has anyone found this newly-opened office?

Any news from our NSF Sea Launch vets that live in the area and/or are still "connected" to the remaining assets?
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #84 on: 01/02/2018 09:13 pm »
http://russianspaceweb.com/sea-launch-2018.html
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Unbooked flights

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The description accompanying the schedule also said that the permanent office of the S7 company had been established at the home port of the Sea Launch vessels in Long Beach, California, to handle the tasks of re-activating the facility and resuming launch operations. Based on estimates from a monitoring group, the complex would be ready for operations in 2018, the S7 Group said.

Has anyone found this newly-opened office?

Any news from our NSF Sea Launch vets?
At the existing Sea-Launch complex in Long Beach, California where Boeing had its office there for the project. If you want the address search in Yellow Book or something for S7 Sea Launch Limited as that is the name of S7 Space's US operating segment.
http://s7space.ru/en/launch-sea/
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #85 on: 01/06/2018 08:02 pm »
I wonder how many Zenits are actually left?

There are references to one further Sea Launch rocket.
https://www.facebook.com/sealaunch/posts/540367662695511

In 2008 TsENKI ordered twelve RD171M engines. Only six were completed. The fifth was А174 and the sixth А175.
http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/PaGVxDA0tHgj/
http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/om1ekgf0MXd1/

In 2015 a DM-SLB was completed by Energia. So was there an associated rocket waiting for it?
https://www.energia.ru/en/corporation/adocs/adoc_2015.doc

Based on serial numbers possibly three further Zenit-3F were planned. One leftover from Elektro-L №3 and one for Lybid?
Fregat 
upper 
stage   Fairing
2005    2005
222-01  222-01 - assigned to Lybid
222-02  2006
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #86 on: 01/06/2018 10:13 pm »
I wonder how many Zenits are actually left?

There are references to one further Sea Launch rocket.
https://www.facebook.com/sealaunch/posts/540367662695511

In 2008 TsENKI ordered twelve RD171M engines. Only six were completed. The fifth was А174 and the sixth А175.
http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/PaGVxDA0tHgj/
http://sudact.ru/arbitral/doc/om1ekgf0MXd1/

In 2015 a DM-SLB was completed by Energia. So was there an associated rocket waiting for it?
https://www.energia.ru/en/corporation/adocs/adoc_2015.doc

Based on serial numbers possibly three further Zenit-3F were planned. One leftover from Elektro-L №3 and one for Lybid?
Fregat
upper
stage   Fairing
2005    2005
222-01  222-01 - assigned to Lybid
222-02  2006

Their are few mostly completed first and second stages that are in Ukraine minus their engines installed and several others in various stages of production that have resumed recently after a multiyear halt in production.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #87 on: 01/15/2018 02:23 pm »
http://www.russianspaceweb.com/sea-launch-2018.html#0114

"On January 11, the Yuzhmash production plant in Dnipro, Ukraine, announced that under an April 2017 contract with S7 Sea Launch Limited, the company had already been manufacturing two Zenit rockets for delivery in 2018. The company was also expecting an additional order for three more Zenit rockets in February 2018, Yuzhmash said."
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #88 on: 01/22/2019 09:51 pm »
One more engine (Yuzhmash, #064)

Source: https://hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainski-rakety
Is it mock-up ?

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #89 on: 01/22/2019 10:16 pm »
One more engine (Yuzhmash, #064)

Source: https://hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainski-rakety
Is it mock-up ?
It is not marked as a RD-171 or RD-171M which S/N numbers use format AXXX
The model series in the picture is designated 11D520.7000-064. RD-170's have been refurbished, modified to RD-171/171M configuration and flown and kept the old Energia engine designation.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #90 on: 01/23/2019 08:42 pm »
One more engine (Yuzhmash, #064)

Source: https://hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainski-rakety
Is it mock-up ?
It is not marked as a RD-171 or RD-171M which S/N numbers use format AXXX
The model series in the picture is designated 11D520.7000-064. RD-170's have been refurbished, modified to RD-171/171M configuration and flown and kept the old Energia engine designation.
Looks like that particular engine stands here for a while. Why so ?
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #91 on: 01/23/2019 09:29 pm »
One more engine (Yuzhmash, #064)

Source: https://hromadske.ua/posts/ukrainski-rakety
Is it mock-up ?
It is not marked as a RD-171 or RD-171M which S/N numbers use format AXXX
The model series in the picture is designated 11D520.7000-064. RD-170's have been refurbished, modified to RD-171/171M configuration and flown and kept the old Energia engine designation.
Looks like that particular engine stands here for a while. Why so ?
It was in Baikonur in photos from 2000. It has been moved around over the years.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #92 on: 01/24/2019 11:13 am »
Today Yuzhmash representative (www.facebook.com/yuzhmash) answered my question concerning that engine: "Это макет, в масштабе 1:1" (this is mock-up 1:1)

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #93 on: 05/04/2019 05:29 pm »
Cross-post re: Zenit, Yuzhmash, and S7 Sea Launch:
https://ria.ru/20190416/1552722254.html
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Source: "Sea Launch" plan to relocate from the United States to the Far East

MOSCOW, Apr 16 - RIA News. Launch platform "Sea Launch" can relocate from California to the Far East, a source in the rocket and space industry told RIA Novosti.
"The possibility of relocating the Sea Launch platform to the Far East, specifically to Sovetskaya Gavan, for launching the Soyuz-5 light rocket, is being considered," the agency’s source said.
According to him, if the launch platform remains in the United States, it will be almost impossible to launch a new Russian rocket from it, since the agreement between Moscow and Washington provides for the launch of the Russian-Ukrainian Zenit rocket, which was discontinued in 2014. Even if in the future it is possible to sign a new intergovernmental agreement, the Russian side will have to disclose the technical documentation on the new rocket to the American supervisory authorities in order to obtain a launch license, which Moscow will not do, the source said.
“The only way out is to relocate the Sea Launch to Russian territory,” he stressed.
This is not the first time that the idea of ​​relocating the Sea Launch to the Far East is being considered. The issue of changing the port was discussed in 2013 and 2015. Then, Vladivostok, Sovetskaya Gavan, Crimea and Vietnam were considered as the location of the launch platform and command ship. As a result, the project was sold to the S7 group of companies.
Get a comment in the S7 group and its space division S7 Space and failed. In "Roskosmos" refrained from commenting.

Waiver of "Zenit"

At the end of March, it became known that the contract for the production of 12 Zenit rocket launchers for the launch from the Sea Launch launch site would be terminated on the Ukrainian Yuzhmash. The company S7 Sea Launch Limited (part of the S7 group, which owns the floating launch site "Sea Launch") and "Yuzhmash" signed a contract for 12 "Zenit" in April 2017.
Earlier, the director general of the state corporation Dmitry Rogozin told RIA Novosti that Roskosmos together with the S7 group plans to create a reusable Soyuz-5 Light commercial launch vehicle based on the Soyuz-5 rocket, the first launch of which from the Baikonur cosmodrome is scheduled in 2022 .
Rogozin also said that he had invited co-owner of the S7 group, Vladislav Filev, to participate in late April in negotiations on the prospects for the Baiterek project, which would launch Soyuz-5 (Irtysh) missiles from the Baikonur cosmodrome.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #94 on: 05/19/2019 09:33 am »
Resumption of RD-120 production at NPO Energomash.
I have no idea how to classify this. What's the plan?

https://ria.ru/20190515/1553518450.html

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Russia returned the production of the RD-120 rocket engine from Ukraine
May 15, 17:24
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MOSCOW, May 15 - RIA News. The Scientific Production Association Energomash (part of the Roscosmos State Corporation) reported on Wednesday that it has resumed production of the RD-120 rocket engine, which has been manufactured in Ukraine for more than 30 years.
The RD-120 engine was developed by NPO Energomash in 1976-1985 for the second stage of the Zenit launch vehicle manufactured in Ukraine. It was serially manufactured at the Ukrainian Southern Machine-Building Plant.
“This engine has not been manufactured (Energomash) for more than 30 years. And now there is a resumption of production, its modernization, improvement of some characteristics for its use as part of new Russian promising missiles,” said Vladomlav Palamarchuk, master of the foundry. in the video posted on the website of the enterprise.
NPO Energomash also says that the RD-120K (RD-120U) engine, a modification of the RD-120 with a short nozzle for advanced missiles, is being developed. At the moment, 2 fire tests of one engine have been carried out. It is reported that its development began in 1986.

Parts of the RD-120 were always made in Russia, so that a production in Ukraine is probably not possible for now.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #95 on: 05/19/2019 10:38 am »
"... use as part of new Russian promising missiles." Not for Zenit.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #96 on: 05/19/2019 07:10 pm »
"... use as part of new Russian promising missiles." Not for Zenit.

Well, it's a fine terminological stuff   ;)
However, whatever words they use to call something - the thing itself does not change.

To the subject:
What they call "new" and "promising" launcher is in fact Zenit - but "made in Russia".
Of course, it will be a modification - or adoption - for currently available techniques, but nothing more.
They just do not have money for any substantial modification.

They will call it "Soyuz-5", and it will be very close replica of Zenit.
As such, this article on restart of RD-120 production belongs mostly to the general thread about Soyuz-5.
It is also (somewhat) relevant to this thread because it implies the end of Ukrainian Zenit.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #97 on: 05/24/2019 05:57 pm »
"... use as part of new Russian promising missiles." Not for Zenit.

Well, it's a fine terminological stuff   ;)
However, whatever words they use to call something - the thing itself does not change.

To the subject:
What they call "new" and "promising" launcher is in fact Zenit - but "made in Russia".
Of course, it will be a modification - or adoption - for currently available techniques, but nothing more.
They just do not have money for any substantial modification.

They will call it "Soyuz-5", and it will be very close replica of Zenit.
As such, this article on restart of RD-120 production belongs mostly to the general thread about Soyuz-5.
It is also (somewhat) relevant to this thread because it implies the end of Ukrainian Zenit.
RD-0124MS is being flown in place of RD-120 and RD-8 on "Soyuz-5". RD-120 and RD-8 would need slight enlargement and thrust uprating to fly the longer and wider "Proton sized" second stage with various modern Proton-M/Angara-A3/A5 class fairings depending on the version flown.

Excluding previously designed and parts tested RD-120K proposed Russian Versions as RD-120M (similar to RD-120F) and RD-120MV and RD-8 would be replaced potentially by a high altitude version of RD-0110R or a similar like steering vernier engine.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #99 on: 11/13/2019 07:08 am »
2nd stage (Yuzhmash)

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