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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #60 on: 01/21/2015 06:56 PM »
Yuzhmash still continues to operate, AFAIK.


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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #61 on: 01/22/2015 12:13 AM »
I believe that Elektro-L #3 will fly on Proton-M, for example.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #62 on: 01/22/2015 03:38 AM »
I believe that Elektro-L #3 will fly on Proton-M, for example.
Makes sense since rockets are normally ordered several years in advance of the launch.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #63 on: 01/23/2015 02:06 AM »
Yuzhmash still continues to operate, AFAIK.
I should clarify my question into questions.

(If moderators think it's more suitable for this to start a splinter thread, then please do so.)

Is Yuzhmash one huge factory, or a collection of facilities?

My understanding is that Zenit is one of Yuzhmash's major "product lines."  My understanding is that there are three remaining Zenit flights scheduled.  And, therefore, these last few vehicles have already been manufactured, or are perhaps now being manufactured?

With the end of Zenit, will some facilities within Yuzhmash be closed?  Will there be layoffs?

From what (little) I know of Dnipropetrovsk, it seems to be a Yuzhmash company town, although perhaps not as much as it was in the "closed Soviet city" years.  Is that an accurate observation?

Is the end of Zenit a major blow to the city's economy?

I found this link regarding rallying Yuzhmash employees:
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2015/01/21/ukrainian-space-workers-rally-pay/
However, the source for this story was:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/419282
which is a Russian news operation?

Is there any reporting on this issue from within Ukraine?  (Which then could be re-reported in English?)

I hope this bundle of questions is not too confusing, or too off-topic.

Thank you,
Zubenelgenubi
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #64 on: 01/23/2015 07:46 AM »
It is more than just three rockets waiting to fly? Two are in Baikonur?

Possibly five more Sea Launch Zenit-2S; and eight more upper stages exist? Zaitcev suggests that the 314ГК DM-SL could fly on Proton instead, but they use TDRS so not sure how that works? One Zenit-2S has already flown from Baikonur.

One more Land Launch upper stage exists; not sure about the rocket.

Not sure how much of the Zenit-2SB rocket ordered for Elektro-L № 3 was manufactured, before it was moved to Proton.

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=34112.msg1164031#msg1164031
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=19873.msg518237#msg518237
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=33273.msg1119705#msg1119705

http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1883601

http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/order/notice/ok44/view/common-info.html?regNumber=0173100007014000202
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #65 on: 01/23/2015 02:43 PM »
The first stage of the Antares rocket is built by Yuzhmash and is the same diameter as the Zenit tanks. Presumably it uses at least some of the same tooling that is used in the production of the Zenit tanks. Do we know how much? It woulds seems that as long as Orbital doesn't change their suppler Yuzhmash will have a viable Zenit based product through the end of CRS2 at least. I am assuming that Orbital will win that contract but that seems like a pretty good bet.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #66 on: 01/23/2015 03:48 PM »
re: remaining Zenit launches

There are no more planned Sea Launch launches?

There are no more planned Land Launch launches from Baikonur?

There are three more Roskosmos launches from Baikonur?
Elektro-L #2
Lybid'
Spektr-RG

What is happening to the Ukrainian facilities that manufactured Zenit?  Are they closing or already closed?

Sincerely,
Zubenelgenubi

There may be even less firmed up Zenit launches than you think - Lybid' is as dead as a zombie given the "Black Sea Affairs" and I think Spektr-RG have some chance of switching to Proton because it may be overweight. I would not be surprised if the launch of Elektro-L #2 this summer is the last for Zenit - which would be a big shame for this powerful kerolox rocket.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #67 on: 01/23/2015 05:17 PM »

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #68 on: 02/02/2015 01:49 AM »
The discussion of the fate of Zenit and its Ukrainian manufacturer, Yuzhmash looks as if it can continue in this new thread?

Roskosmos will end use of Zenit rocket

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36698.0
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #69 on: 02/02/2015 09:39 PM »
The discussion of the fate of Zenit and its Ukrainian manufacturer, Yuzhmash looks as if it can continue in this new thread?

Roskosmos will end use of Zenit rocket

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36698.0

Is Roskosmos the only customer left? How viable is Land Launch?

What happens to all the Sea Launch rockets?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22561.msg1175057#msg1175057

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #70 on: 02/11/2015 11:03 PM »
The discussion of the fate of Zenit and its Ukrainian manufacturer, Yuzhmash looks as if it can continue in this new thread?

Roskosmos will end use of Zenit rocket

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36698.0

Is Roskosmos the only customer left? How viable is Land Launch?

What happens to all the Sea Launch rockets?
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22561.msg1175057#msg1175057
AFAIK, Yes until 2018 Not sure of its future fate since commercial missions are being forced onto other newer rockets.

EDIT: URSC to Eliminate Sea Launch and Land Launch by end of year unless Ukraine moves production to Russia or returns to the previous status quo with full alliance with Russia.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #71 on: 02/14/2015 07:39 AM »
               Batch                          
     Serial    production                         
     number    date    Launch      Payload        
                                                  
     51074701  1982    Ground test article YeZM   
                                                  
1л   45086101  1984    13.04.1985                 
     5106102                                     
     6706103                                     
     4506104                                     
2л   51076105  1984/2  21.06.1985                 
3л   67076106  1984/2  22.10.1985  Kosmos-1697    
                                                  
4л   45061501  1985    30.07.1986  Kosmos-1767    
5л   51041502  1985    28.12.1985  Kosmos-1714    
6л   67041503  1985    22.10.1986  Kosmos-1786    
7л   45041504  1985    14.02.1987  Kosmos-1820    
                                                  
8л   51038401  1986    18.03.1987  Kosmos-1833    
     6708402                                     
9л   45058403  1986    13.05.1987  Kosmos-1844    
10л  51058404  1986    28.08.1987  Kosmos-1873    
                                                  
11л  45095601  1987    01.08.1987  Kosmos-1871    
13л  51095612  1987    23.11.1988  Kosmos-1980    
     67065613  1987/2  22.05.1990  Kosmos-2082    
     45065614  1987/2  26.03.1993  Kosmos-2237    
12л  51065615  1987/2  15.05.1988  Kosmos-1943    
                                                  
     45079216  1988    04.10.1990                 
     51019217  1988    30.08.1991                 
     67019218  1988    16.09.1993  Kosmos-2263    
     45019219  1988    23.04.1994  Kosmos-2278    
                                                  
     67057901  1989    26.08.1994  Kosmos-2290    
     51057902  1989    04.11.1994  Resurs-O1 №3   
     45057903  1989    31.10.1995  Kosmos-2322    
     6707904                                     
     51027905  1989/2  04.09.1996  Kosmos-2333    
                                                  
     51013301  1990                               
     45013302  1990    20.05.1997                 
16л  67013303  1990    25.09.2000  Kosmos-2372    
     5103304                                     
     45033305  1990/2  24.11.1994  Kosmos-2297    
     67033306  1990/2  25.12.1992  Kosmos-2227    
                                                  
     45082801  1991    05.02.1992                 
                                                  
     67092802  1991/2  17.11.1992  Kosmos-2219    
     45092803  1991/2  28.07.1998  Kosmos-2360    
                                                  
     45025801  1998    03.02.2000  Kosmos-2369    
17л  51025802  1998    17.07.1999  Okean-O №1     
18л  6705803          10.07.1998  Resurs-O1 №4   
                                                  
19л  45021101          10.12.2001  Meteor-3M №1   
                                                  
22л  67047801  1995    09.09.1998  Globalstar     
                                                  
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #72 on: 09/19/2017 08:13 PM »
SNIP

Which РД-171М and launcher S/N is going to be used for Lybid launch in early January 2018? Its Zenit is to ship to launch site as early as next month.
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #73 on: 12/28/2017 11:10 AM »
РД171М
А138test engine
А139Zenit-2S2018.06.2006Galaxy-16
А140Zenit-2S1515.02.2006Echostar-10[photo]
А141Zenit-2S2112.04.2006JCSAT-9
А142Zenit-2S2231.10.2006XM-4
А143Zenit-2S2322.08.2006Koresat‑5
А144Zenit-2S2430.01.2007NSS-8
А145Zenit-2M29.06.2007Kosmos-2428
А146Zenit-2S2515.01.2008Thuraya‑D3
А147Zenit-2S2619.03.2008Directv-11[source]
А148Zenit-2SB6060.128.04.2008Amos-3[photo] [photo]
А149Zenit-2S2721.05.2008Galaxy-18
А150Zenit-2S2816.07.2008Echostar-11[source]
А151Zenit-2S2924.09.2008Galaxy-19
А152Zenit-2SB6060.226.02.2009Telstar-11N[source]
А153Zenit-2SB8080.120.01.2011Elektro-L № 1
А154Zenit-2S3020.04.2009SICRAL-1B[photo]
А155Zenit-2SB6060.321.06.2009Measat-3A
А156Zenit-2SB6060.430.11.2009Intelsat-15
А15725.12.2009damaged during testing[source]
А158Zenit-2SB4141.108.11.2011Fobos-Grunt / Yinghuo-1
А159Zenit-2SB8080.321.07.2011Spektr-R[source]
А160Zenit-2S3124.09.2011Atlantic-Bird-7
А161Zenit-2SB60
Zenit-2S
60.5
32
05.10.2011Intelsat-18[source]
А162Zenit-2SB[source]
А163Zenit-2S3305.05.2012Intelsat-19[source]
А164Zenit[source] [photo]
А165Zenit-2S3419.08.2012Intelsat-21[source]
А166Zenit-2S3503.12.2012Eutelsat-W5A
А167Zenit[source]
А168Zenit-2S3601.02.2013Intelsat-27
On the rollout video for Angosat 1 is to see "A 164".
Has anyone recognized the rocket serial number on the pictures?
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #74 on: 12/28/2017 07:10 PM »
РД171М
SNIP
On the rollout video for Angosat 1 is to see "A 164".
Has anyone recognized the rocket serial number on the pictures?
Per http://russianspaceweb.com/2017.html
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Zenit-3SLBF No. SLB80.5/Fregat No. 2006

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #75 on: 12/28/2017 09:58 PM »
РД171М
SNIP
On the rollout video for Angosat 1 is to see "A 164".
Has anyone recognized the rocket serial number on the pictures?
Per http://russianspaceweb.com/2017.html
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Zenit-3SLBF No. SLB80.5/Fregat No. 2006
Thank you !
I am looking for the long serial number.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #76 on: 12/28/2017 10:08 PM »
РД171М
SNIP
On the rollout video for Angosat 1 is to see "A 164".
Has anyone recognized the rocket serial number on the pictures?
Per http://russianspaceweb.com/2017.html
Quote
Zenit-3SLBF No. SLB80.5/Fregat No. 2006
Thank you !
I am looking for the long serial number.
I havent located it in videos or photos yet.

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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #77 on: 12/28/2017 10:54 PM »
РД171МConfigurationZenit StartPayload 
А138    test engine 
А139Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2018.06.2006Galaxy-16 
А140Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL1515.02.2006Echostar-10[photo]
А141Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2112.04.2006JCSAT-9 
А142Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2231.10.2006XM-4 
А143Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2322.08.2006Koresat‑5 
А144Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2430.01.2007NSS-8 
А145Zenit-2MZenit-2SB40 29.06.2007Kosmos-2428 
А146Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2515.01.2008Thuraya‑D3 
А147Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2619.03.2008Directv-11[source]
А148Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.128.04.2008Amos-3[photo] [photo]
А149Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2721.05.2008Galaxy-18 
А150Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2816.07.2008Echostar-11[source]
А151Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL2924.09.2008Galaxy-19 
А152Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.226.02.2009Telstar-11N[source]
А153Zenit-3FZenit-2SB80SLБ80.120.01.2011Elektro-L №1 
А154Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3020.04.2009SICRAL-1B[photo]
А155Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.321.06.2009Measat-3A 
А156Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.430.11.2009Intelsat-15 
А157   25.12.2009damaged during testing[source]
А158Zenit-2FGZenit-2SB41SLБ41.108.11.2011Fobos-Grunt / Yinghuo-1 
А159Zenit-3FZenit-2SB80SLБ80.318.07.2011Spektr-R[source]
А160Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3124.09.2011Atlantic-Bird-7 
А161Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SL32 SLБ60.505.10.2011Intelsat-18[source]
А162Zenit-3FZenit-2SB80SLБ80.411.12.2015Elektro-L №2[source] [photo]
А163Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3305.05.2012Intelsat-19[source] [source]
А164Zenit-3FZenit-2SB80SLБ80.526.12.2017Angosat[source] [photo]
А165Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3419.08.2012Intelsat-21[source] [source]
А166Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3503.12.2012Eutelsat-W5A[source]
А167Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3601.02.2013Intelsat-27[source]
А168Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.631.08.2013Amos-4[photo]
А169      
А170      
А171Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL3726.05.2014Eutelsat-3B[photo]
А172      
А173      
А174     [source]
А175     [source]
А176Zenit-3FZenit-2SB80  Lybid 
А177    incomplete[source]
А178    incomplete[source]
А179    incomplete[source]
       
 Zenit-3SLZenit-2SSL38   
 Zenit-3SLBZenit-2SB60SLБ60.7   
       
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #78 on: 12/29/2017 05:09 PM »
Now for something else - does anyone have layout plans/illustrations of how the planned Zenit launch pad at Plesetsk (Site 35, eventually built for Angara) would look like had it been completed? What differences would it have with the Baikonur Zenit launch complex?
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Re: Information about Zenit rocket
« Reply #79 on: 12/29/2017 05:39 PM »
Now for something else - does anyone have layout plans/illustrations of how the planned Zenit launch pad at Plesetsk (Site 35, eventually built for Angara) would look like had it been completed? What differences would it have with the Baikonur Zenit launch complex?

No mobile tower was to be built and Site 35 was redesigned from lessons learned from building and operating Site 45. Site 35 construction was around 90 percent complete with 95 percent of parts manufacturing completed before a slow work and then stop work orders were issued.

Site 45/1 and 45/2:
http://russianspaceweb.com/baikonur_zenit.html
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History of the facility

The construction of the Zenit launch complex started at the end of the 1970s on the right flank of Baikonur, where many previous rockets developed by Yuzhnoe Design Bureau were tested in the past. The complex included existing infrastructure, which was refurbished for the new task, as well as newly built facilities.

On June 14, 1978, two and a half years after Zenit development officially started, the original team assigned to test Zenit was formed within the 2nd Directorate of NIIP-5 test range. (The 2nd Directorate traditionally tested Yuzhnoe-produced rockets.) On September 7, 1979, a separate department dedicated to work with Zenit was formed within the 2nd Directorate. (67)

In 1982, the 5th Scientific and Testing Directorate was created in Baikonur specifically for the operations with the Zenit boosters.

Site 35/1 (nearly complete) and 35/2 (Planned, but never built):
http://russianspaceweb.com/plesetsk_angara.html
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Origin of the facility

In 1976, Soviet government officially approved the deployment of the next-generation Zenit rocket at the country's northern launch site in Plesetsk. The main contractor for the project, a Moscow-based KBTM design bureau, actively lobbied an immediate start of the construction in Plesetsk, even though its leaders could not anticipate the collapse of the USSR 15 years later. In any case, the Kremlin gave priority to Zenit's pad in Baikonur. Only in 1982, after a series of surveys at the northern site, KBTM developed specifications for adapting Zenit's launch infrastructure for the requirements of the Defense Ministry in Plesetsk.

The Plesetsk-based complex was designed to accommodate a two-stage Zenit-2 and its three-stage version -- Zenit-3, which required five new facilities, comparing to the original launch complex in Baikonur. From Plesetsk, Zenit could send newest Soviet military satellites into high-inclination orbits, possibly including heavy reconnaissance spacecraft planned at the time carrying from 16 to 24 reentry capsules with film. The rocket probably could also launch manned Soyuz spacecraft and its successors toward the future space station deployed in the near-polar orbit!

The Zenit's launch pad in Plesetsk under designation 11P877 was to be located at Site 35 (also previously known as 41st kilometer) and its processing complex -- 11P577 -- would be built three kilometers away at Site 142 using some refurbished and some new buildings. The construction was scheduled to take place from 1986 to 1992. By the time the Soviet economy began crumbling at the end of the 1980s, up to 95 percent of the equipment for Zenit's launch complex had already been manufactured and delivered to Plesetsk. The collapse of the USSR pushed the completion date for the facility to 1996, however after spending 70 percent of funds originally allocated for the task, the Ministry of Defense froze the construction in 1992 and then gave up on the whole idea of bringing Zenit to Plesetsk. (114)

The launch platform for the Zenit rocket was eventually shipped from Plesetsk to Baikonur for a planned restoration of the PU-2 launch pad at the Zenit launch facility, which had been destroyed in a failed launch in 1990. However this effort was also abandoned and the platform made another trip across the country to the port of Vyborg near St. Petersburg, where it was refurbished for the installation on the Sea Launch platform.

The formal government decision to discontinue the effort to bring Zenit to Plesetsk was not taken until Feb. 1, 2000. (728)
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