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STS-135: Tank Camera modification aimed at filming footage of ET-138′s death
by
Chris Bergin
on 09 Jun, 2011 04:27
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#1
by
alexw
on 09 Jun, 2011 07:08
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The prospect of footage from the tank itself – as it vents and starts to disintegrate – on the final ever shuttle mission, may not be up to the high standards of the Soyuz “Flyabout” footage of Endeavour and the ISS, but it would provide a potentially stunning viewpoint of the final Shuttle ET, prior to its demise.
Wow! No kidding. Will be both exciting and very, very poignant.
-Alex
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#2
by
Mark Dave
on 09 Jun, 2011 15:01
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This will be cool to see.
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#3
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 09 Jun, 2011 17:58
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It might also get us the first ever photo of the Space Shuttle in orbit with its payload bay doors closed.
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#4
by
psloss
on 09 Jun, 2011 18:05
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It might also get us the first ever photo of the Space Shuttle in orbit with its payload bay doors closed.
There is ground-based imagery with the doors closed, in fact some taken by Thierry Legault and Emmanuel Rietsch from entry day last week:
http://legault.perso.sfr.fr/STS-134.htmlThe feed from LO2 feedline fairing camera will definitely be a curiosity well after orbiter/ET sep, but it may take some luck with camera field of view and tank attitude/rates to get the orbiter.
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#5
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Pheogh
on 09 Jun, 2011 18:36
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Personally the 2 cameras I would love to see is one looking out the top windows all the way to orbit, and then another looking across the cmdr. out his window all the way to orbit.
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#6
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Chris Bergin
on 09 Jun, 2011 20:39
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Want to add a para modification notice:
"The camera debuted for a one-off ride during STS-112′s launch, although this was implemented mainly for the purpose of PAO coverage, and was located higher on the tank – near the top of the intertank – prior to its full time integration with the tanks from STS-114 onwards, as part of the Return To Flight (RTF) requirements."
Now in the article, for context. Appreciate the e-mail noting this.
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#7
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ChrisGebhardt
on 10 Jun, 2011 14:12
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It might also get us the first ever photo of the Space Shuttle in orbit with its payload bay doors closed.
The feed from LO2 feedline fairing camera will definitely be a curiosity well after orbiter/ET sep, but it may take some luck with camera field of view and tank attitude/rates to get the orbiter.
Agreed on the attitude/rates and all. Not sure if we'll get the image, but it would be neat to see the orbiter in that configuration in flight. Didn't see the previous entry from June 1 of Endeavour with PLBDs closed, but I was more thinking image from space of orbiter with PLBDs closed. I know there was a discussion thread about this a while back where someone wanted to see that, so I mentioned it here. OF course I would mention it 6days after an image of remarkable clarity was taken.
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#8
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Chris Bergin
on 23 Jun, 2011 22:14
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#9
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Davidgojr
on 23 Jun, 2011 22:46
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This is some footage I'm excited to see!
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#10
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Chris Bergin
on 24 Jun, 2011 00:01
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This is some footage I'm excited to see!
Agreed. ANY footage is going to be an advance on anything we've previously seen, so it's going to interesting for sure.
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#11
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Paul Howard
on 24 Jun, 2011 02:24
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Hopefully the modifications will become commonplace on SLS first stage core.
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#12
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Jorge
on 24 Jun, 2011 02:42
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Hopefully the modifications will become commonplace on SLS first stage core.
It won't. Getting broadcast clearance over all those countries was a pain, and was only worth doing because it's the last shuttle flight.
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#13
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John Duncan
on 11 Jul, 2011 10:17
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Did we get anything from the camera?
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#14
by
racshot65
on 11 Jul, 2011 10:22
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From the FD2 MMT briefing
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=25892.msg770586#msg770586Q: Did you get the extended ET feedline camera footage?
A: We put the request to do that in late in the game but they did an outstanding job to allow us to do it. When the tank gets to rentry it is tumbling and the lighting is questionable. We have captured the data from [ Something Garsia ?] but the quality will be questionable due to tumbling and lighting. Don’t expect to see it for a few weeks.
Someone captured this footage:
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#15
by
psloss
on 11 Jul, 2011 10:32
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FWIW, the location referred to was Diego Garcia. Among other things it's a ground comm/data/tracking station. (Or was.)
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#16
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John Duncan
on 11 Jul, 2011 11:38
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Thanks guys. Maybe there'll be something more to see in a few weeks.
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#17
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mtakala24
on 11 Jul, 2011 12:06
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Remember that the actual entry was far, far away (over the horizon, thus not receivable) from diego garcia, and there wasn't any scheduled navy/nasa vessels at a site where the death could have been captured. Diego Garcia was overflight, and lets hope they captured some footage.
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#18
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lcs
on 11 Jul, 2011 17:54
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I thought the Brits and Aussies loved this sort of challenge of searching for impossible to receive RF transmissions. I wouldn't be surprised if some amateur in South New Zealand or Tasmania pointed his Yagi beam at the southern horizon and at least tried to pick it up.
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#19
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mtakala24
on 12 Jul, 2011 12:30
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I got the impression that it would be over the horizon from mainland Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania too, but I'm not sure of that.
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#20
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JSC Phil
on 12 Jul, 2011 12:41
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There will be video coming, not sure how soon, but if I get hold of it I'll post it on L2 as that place gives me more insight into SLS and other new vehicle planning than I get at work. It's the least I can do.
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#21
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Chris Bergin
on 12 Jul, 2011 17:14
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Awesome, thanks sir!
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#22
by
brettreds2k
on 20 Jul, 2011 17:50
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Any updates on when the video will be released?
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#23
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Chris Bergin
on 20 Jul, 2011 17:59
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Probably not going to be released, but we'll get hold of it if and when processed
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#24
by
Chris Bergin
on 29 Jul, 2011 05:18
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#25
by
Specifically-Impulsive
on 29 Jul, 2011 11:16
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Thanks for the article. I had assumed that this didn't work because there was very little mention of it post-flight. It's good to know what happened.
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#26
by
Sesquipedalian
on 29 Jul, 2011 15:57
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This was an interesting paragraph:
Moreover, the camera’s primary use on STS-112 - a mission by Atlantis in October 2002 - was for PAO launch coverage purposes and not for engineering assessment of the Tank’s TPS performance - an ironic use considering the rather significant foam liberation event that occurred on STS-112 and subsequent foam liberation event on STS-107/Columbia that ultimately made the camera mandatory for tank engineering assessment purposes.
Did the STS-112 camera actually capture the foam liberation event?
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#27
by
psloss
on 29 Jul, 2011 16:10
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This was an interesting paragraph:
Moreover, the camera’s primary use on STS-112 - a mission by Atlantis in October 2002 - was for PAO launch coverage purposes and not for engineering assessment of the Tank’s TPS performance - an ironic use considering the rather significant foam liberation event that occurred on STS-112 and subsequent foam liberation event on STS-107/Columbia that ultimately made the camera mandatory for tank engineering assessment purposes.
Did the STS-112 camera actually capture the foam liberation event?
Doubtful and the foam loss was unreported publicly at the time -- it (the camera) was up higher on the cable tray; however, both bipod ramp losses and impacts were seen in the post-launch film review. The repositioned camera would have captured the 112 and 107 releases and probably the 107 impact, but the 112 impact (left booster ET attach ring near the IEA) was probably out of that view from the feedline fairing.
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#28
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Chris Bergin
on 30 Jul, 2011 13:26
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Nice work with the comparison shots there Philip!
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#29
by
Jason1701
on 30 Jul, 2011 20:22
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Now that the ET Death Cam info is out, will the Picosatellite's be coming soon?
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#30
by
Sesquipedalian
on 31 Jul, 2011 00:56
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Nice work with the comparison shots there Philip!
Indeed, very nice!