I think so. The Aurora/Christmas Island R-7 was to use NK-33 (on the core stage at least) instead of the single, four-nozzle engine currently used. With a hydrogen upper stage--and other improvements--this may be the 16 ton payload configuration the article spoke of. This pushes it beyond Long March and closer to Ariane 5 and Proton.Try http://www.russianspaceweb.comhttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz3_lv.html
Quote from: publiusr on 05/18/2006 09:42 pmI think so. The Aurora/Christmas Island R-7 was to use NK-33 (on the core stage at least) instead of the single, four-nozzle engine currently used. With a hydrogen upper stage--and other improvements--this may be the 16 ton payload configuration the article spoke of. This pushes it beyond Long March and closer to Ariane 5 and Proton.Try http://www.russianspaceweb.comhttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz3_lv.htmlAlso, according to Astronautix the Nk-33/43 was successfully tested with Hydrolox and out to 214mT thrust. Why don't they change out the strap-on engine packages and make it match Proton capability to boot?
Quote from: Kitspacer on 04/08/2010 05:21 amQuote from: publiusr on 05/18/2006 09:42 pmI think so. The Aurora/Christmas Island R-7 was to use NK-33 (on the core stage at least) instead of the single, four-nozzle engine currently used. With a hydrogen upper stage--and other improvements--this may be the 16 ton payload configuration the article spoke of. This pushes it beyond Long March and closer to Ariane 5 and Proton.Try http://www.russianspaceweb.comhttp://www.russianspaceweb.com/soyuz3_lv.htmlAlso, according to Astronautix the Nk-33/43 was successfully tested with Hydrolox and out to 214mT thrust. Why don't they change out the strap-on engine packages and make it match Proton capability to boot?The Aurora/Christmas Island R-7 did not have an Upper Hydrogen stage. About NK-33/43 - engines had not been manufactured since cancellation of LV N1 program (1974). Joint venture AeroJet/SNTK Kuznetsov could start production but they most likely do not have ENOUGH orders. (Supply/Demand equation).
Solid strap-ons on a Russian rocket? Oh my, times ARE changing.
Let's re-open topic (even it's already a history: Kliper had been replaced by MTV NG capsular spacecraft):
Quote from: fregate on 06/24/2009 11:44 amLet's re-open topic (even it's already a history: Kliper had been replaced by MTV NG capsular spacecraft): Centlal block of Soyuz-3 (aka Soyuz-2-3). 2005:
Will this feature the RD-110R stearing engine?
I hope this goes better than the tender for Klipper a couple of years ago. That one disappeared into the ether.
There has been discussion here that the KVRB is so inefficient that its not cost effective to use (compared with Block-DM).
Quote from: Danderman on 10/24/2010 01:20 pmThere has been discussion here that the KVRB is so inefficient that its not cost effective to use (compared with Block-DM).How did you estimate efficiency of non-existent hardware (KVRB not in production yet)? Yes it might be less efficient than Centaur upper stage, but AFAIK it would have the same cryogenic engines (RD-0146) that planned to use on a second stage of RUS-M LV. That alone would drive cost of production down. And there is no way to achieve an objective 5 tonnes on GEO without KVRB!