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LIVE: Copenhagen Suborbitals June 3rd 2011
by
QuantumG
on 28 May, 2011 06:19
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#1
by
QuantumG
on 28 May, 2011 08:53
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Currently docked at Dragør waiting for calm seas.
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#2
by
NotGncDude
on 29 May, 2011 03:02
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That's such a crazy idea. I'm cheering for them!
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#3
by
douglas100
on 29 May, 2011 12:32
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It is crazy, isn't it? Not for the claustrophobic, either. And I don't fancy taking the launch G's in an upright position.
But it's good that there are people like that in the world. It stops life from getting too mundane.
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#4
by
QuantumG
on 30 May, 2011 21:42
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#5
by
QuantumG
on 31 May, 2011 02:44
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02:45 UTC Currently waiting on the Höllviken side of the Falsterbo canal. It's 4:45 am local time, so hopefully they're not waiting for someone to wake up and let them in.
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#6
by
QuantumG
on 31 May, 2011 08:05
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08:05 UTC They've entered the canal.
08:25 UTC Out the other side.
22:45 UTC Just 2km off the coast of Bornholm.
01:19 UTC Rounding the south of Bornholm.
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#7
by
QuantumG
on 01 Jun, 2011 03:40
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03:28 UTC Rendezvous with the rescue ship Leopold Rosenfeldt which supplied 60 liters of fuel. (they were running dangerously low).
05:08 UTC Arrived at Neksø port.
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#8
by
QuantumG
on 01 Jun, 2011 05:25
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Either Google has gotten faster with their streetview trucks or they are moored in the same spot as last year.
Compare to the May 25 dry run.. and as far as I know they haven't got the submarine with them at all this year.
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#9
by
Lars Tørnes Hansen
on 01 Jun, 2011 17:58
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Compare to the May 25 dry run.. and as far as I know they haven't got the submarine with them at all this year.
That is correct, no submarine this time, because Sputnik (the HEAT 1X, Tycho Brahe transportation vessel) is now a ship with engines.
YouTube video, arrival at habour NEXOE:
Pictures:
http://www.bornholmstidende.dk/?News=Galleri&Id=6008&Pix=42#1Hint to picture navigation: The danish words "Næste" and "Forrige" are "next" and "previous" in english.
Lars Tørnes Hansen, Copenhagen Suborbitals support,
http://www.raketvenner.dk/
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#10
by
Lars Tørnes Hansen
on 01 Jun, 2011 22:04
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#11
by
Crispy
on 01 Jun, 2011 22:11
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Good grief, the business end of that rocket looks more like a rusty boat than a spacecraft. Where have they been storing it for the last year? Moored in harbour?
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#12
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Lars Tørnes Hansen
on 02 Jun, 2011 09:53
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Good grief, the business end of that rocket looks more like a rusty boat than a spacecraft. Where have they been storing it for the last year? Moored in harbour?
Yes for Sputnik, and partially for HEAT 1X and Tycho Brahe.
In october 2010: Tycho Brahe and HEAT 1X was lifted off from Sputnik and seperated. Tycho Brahe and HEAT 1X was then transported by Bornholmsfærgen (a ferry).
Sputnik was trailed to "Refshale øen", Copenhagen where HAB is.
A crane lifted Spunik out of the habour and stored on land. Sputnik had been stored outside HAB during the winter.
Some of this text had been transladed by translate.google.com, and maybe not be correct english, but I hope you understand it.
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#13
by
Crispy
on 02 Jun, 2011 13:07
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Thanks for the reply
I'm sure you wouldn't be launching if you didn't have full confidence in the vehicle's integrity.
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#14
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 05:09
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#15
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 09:50
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ing.dk is reporting that the preparations were one hour ahead of schedule.
The launch could happen as early as 12:00 UTC.
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#16
by
Jester
on 03 Jun, 2011 10:35
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#17
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 11:49
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11:49 UTC looks like
www.tv2bornholm.dk has some signal.
The video is coming from the boat Mhv 903 Hjortoe. It seems to be intermittent.
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#18
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 12:36
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Got a live video on Jester's first link
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#19
by
DaveS
on 03 Jun, 2011 12:39
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Got a live video on Jester's first link
Yes and T0 is now targeted for 15:30 CEST (1330 UTC).
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#20
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 12:45
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need a translator
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#21
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 12:51
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So are you two getting the helicopter camera view watching those "mission control centers"?
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#22
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 12:54
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no, right now, a couple guys on a ship - talking with what looks like the captain.
Also some live shots of the rocket on the rail.
Previous- They just conducted an interview with one of the Copenhagen guys.
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#23
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:01
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13:00 UTC Reports that LOX tank is 5 minutes from being full.
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#24
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:05
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I like the ladder propped up on the side of the rocket!
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#25
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:16
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Some fantastic helicopter video.. I'm not going to bother repeating the new T+0 I've heard.. it'll go when it's ready.
If you're watching the video, you should know when they are about to launch because the crew will be spirited away in a support boat.
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#26
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:46
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What is the new go time?
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#27
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:48
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What is the new go time?
12 minutes from now
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#28
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:49
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Good thread, let's have this moved and promoted like other live launch threads!
Anyone able to VLC screenshots?
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#29
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:53
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some translation would be helpful
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#30
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:54
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some translation would be helpful
from their liveblog:
• Just finished filling the Lox
• Struggling with alien ships in the area
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#31
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:55
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Thanks Chris. The video feeds are overwhelmed with the international interest..
Hopefully the helicopter will refuel and do another pass soon. I'll see if I can get some screenshots then.
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#32
by
JJ..
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:58
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It seems we are at mercy of the camera being pointed up at a big screen
I think the view is looking up toward the top of the rocket
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#33
by
Diagoras
on 03 Jun, 2011 13:59
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#34
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:00
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some more google translated statements from
http://www.tv2bornholm.dk/moduler/nyheder/news.asp?id=5493915:39 The tricky fishing boat is now finally out of the launch zone.
15:39 LOX valve closes.
15:40 Now sending helium into the bottom of the rocket to put pressure on the rocket.
15:42 Launch date is estimated by Kristian von Bengtson to lie half hours away, around 16.15.
15:47 The pressure in the rocket rises right now as planned.
15:54 Reporting from Hjortø: rocket facilitates about 30-40 minutes. ( I think this means a launch at 1630 or about 30 minutes from now)
Launch estimates are constantly shifting, I hope they are able to launch today, although they have more openings in the coming weeks, afaik, so a failure to launch wont be a showstopper for another year.
attached a small picture.
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#35
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:01
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#36
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:02
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The stream is now showing a newscast next to the mission control center screen, with an interview shown of the builders.
Wish there'd be more publicity, perhaps after the launch. Nice thing to try, this.
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#37
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:08
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quite a big newsitem on the news in denmark, apperantly
showing helicopter view of the rocket, venting oxygen.
Too bad the quality is quite bad on the stream...
launch now officialy at 1630 according to the cast.
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#38
by
Martin.cz
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:10
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Wish there'd be more publicity, perhaps after the launch. Nice thing to try, this.
Ustream shows 4000+ viewers on the Arnholm channel alone and local TV is brodcasting their launch. Thats pretty good for a first launch, IMO.
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#39
by
Apollo-phill
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:11
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This reminds me of when I followed another pioneering suborbital rocket 50 years ago - - Al Shepard's mercury Redstone in May 1961.
Yep - I'm that old to remember Al's flight and did have opportunity meet him.
Go,Tycho - Go,go,go !!!!
Apollo-phill
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#40
by
Jason1701
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:11
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I wish they would stream the actual launch platform view, and not a view of a TV broadcasting it. Still, they're doing a better job than SpaceX.
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#41
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:19
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Flight is getting ready to go through the go/no-go procedure
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#42
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:22
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16:15 The helicopter on the way out to the rocket. Launch drastic moves closer. Estimated waiting time still varies between 10 and 15 minutes.
16:18 Launch area can be completely cleared of ships at 16.30. Liftoff will lie close to it.
source ( and picture ) from
http://www.tv2bornholm.dk/moduler/nyheder/news.asp?id=54939
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#43
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:22
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Launch will take place within 10 minutes.. There are still a few boats that needs to be turned away, and we are waiting for the helicopter to return from fueling
looks like they want to get a pretty picture from the launch - Looking forward to it!
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#44
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:26
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sounds like go/no go polling. ( all Go's from what I hear )
going trough the checklist.
Some english commentating going on.
T-2 minutes and counting!
good luck copenhagen suborbitals!
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#45
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:26
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14:26 UTC 2 min countdown started.
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#46
by
bad_astra
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:27
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Very professional sounding. Best of luck.
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#47
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:28
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stream jumped to 6000 viewers and counting,
1 minute and counting
go go!
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#48
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:28
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Good luck guys!
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#49
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:29
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14:29 UTC Final countdown.
14:29 UTC T+13 Bad ignition.
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#50
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:29
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no ignition!
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#51
by
dafixer
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:30
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There's a regular flotilla out there.
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#52
by
bad_astra
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:30
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t-minus 1:56
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#53
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:30
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auto sequence apperantly did not start.
"Samples countdown again." <- bad translation?
vehicle at 23 bars, apperantly.
restarted countdown (?)
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#54
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:32
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14:31 UTC new countdown starting at T-90 seconds.
14:32 UTC final countdown
14:32 UTC liftoff.
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#55
by
bad_astra
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:32
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liftoff. went supersonic very quickly.
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#56
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:33
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LAUNCH AND STABLE!
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#57
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:34
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Confirmed separation and parachute opened.
Recovery operations starting.
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#58
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:34
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Crowd goes wild!
Managed to hard screenshot a launch image:
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#59
by
JJ..
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:35
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doesn't look like good chutes !
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#60
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:36
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Chutes deployed, but they don't look healthy.
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#61
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:37
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splashdown without good chutes.
Still, they got a good engine start, launch, seperation event and at least got the parachutes out
not bad for basically a garage project!
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#62
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:37
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#63
by
QuantumG
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:38
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14:37 UTC Splashdown.
5 minute flight.. the test dummy is ecstatic.
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#64
by
Jason1701
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:38
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Capsule is floating horizontally, looks good.
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#65
by
Chris Bergin
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:39
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Doesn't look too bad! Hasn't sunk and will probably only have an Ares I-X dint at worst.
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#66
by
JJ..
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:39
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It certainly looked like the chute was streaming behind the falling stage,
its hard to see on my feed,but they all sound happy !
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#67
by
bad_astra
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:41
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exciting stuff. A great day for Copenhagen Suborbitals.
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#68
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:44
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recovery ship now next to the stage with parachutes.
except for parachute deployment, looks like a succesfull day!
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#69
by
bad_astra
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:46
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I wasnt able to see a video feed. If anyone has a link to one, it would be appreciated
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#70
by
Jason1701
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:48
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recovery ship now next to the stage with parachutes.
Recovery dinghy.
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#71
by
Space Pete
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:50
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Congrats to Copenhagen Suborbitals!
It wasn't ISS, but it was still cool!
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#72
by
Martin.cz
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:54
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According the the mission control webpage they are now waiting for max height confirmation.
EDIT: They also report that separation was done as planned.
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#73
by
corrodedNut
on 03 Jun, 2011 14:59
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#74
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 15:02
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#75
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 15:32
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both livestreams now stopped; the video is also up on youtube.
No new information so far. It seems that their facebook will be the source of updates (?)
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#76
by
JJ..
on 03 Jun, 2011 15:33
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A couple of grabs from the replay linked on previous page
1 Launch
2 "wobble"
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#77
by
JJ..
on 03 Jun, 2011 15:35
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And a couple of the Chute
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#78
by
Robotbeat
on 03 Jun, 2011 16:16
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Cool!!!
Congrats on the successful launch!
Lykønskninger!
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#79
by
yg1968
on 03 Jun, 2011 17:12
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#80
by
Jason1701
on 03 Jun, 2011 17:23
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#81
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 17:23
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#82
by
Moe Grills
on 03 Jun, 2011 17:48
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Here is an update:
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/06/03/danish-teams-homemade-space-capsule-blasts-off/
Multiple U.S. sources are reporting that it went "two miles" or "three kilometers" high, with a total flight time of about 21 seconds. Danish sources, however, say 15-16 km. I think the U.S. sources are confused: 2 km and 21 seconds was when the rocket shut down its engine. Then it continued to coast far beyond that.
An possible explanation can be that the POWERED flight took it upto
3 kilometers before the rocket burn ended, with 1/3rd of the atmosphere below it, and a terminal velocity somewhere between Mach 1 & 2.
Then it simply coasted upto 15-16 Km, with drag and gravity keeping it
from going higher.
15-16 Km is certainly not outer space, and not quite the boundary region below space, but commendably the rocket flew higher than commercial jets fly.
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#83
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 17:59
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15-16 Km is certainly not outer space, and not quite the boundary region below space, but commendably the rocket flew higher than commercial jets fly.
Correct, and that is about the altitude this rocket was aiming for; it is quite a bit smaller than their eventual manned flight. I guess we'll have to wait a bit untill we get more info from copenhagen suborbitals to be sure to what height they got.
Anyway, I loved watching this, despite low quality. When it launched and the control room bursts into screaming, I was muttering "yes! yes!" under my breath aswell
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#84
by
KristianAndresen
on 03 Jun, 2011 18:04
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To clear up any confusion:
1st, there was a submarine involved last year, but not this year.
2nd, the target was 15 km, but it reached 3 km, because a flight control system hasn't been implemented yet - it went off course and automatically aborted. This is also the reason why parachute deployment failed - the speed was too high at the time.
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#85
by
Silmfeanor
on 03 Jun, 2011 18:07
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the target was 15 km, but it reached 3 km, because a flight control system hasn't been implemented yet - it went off course and automatically aborted. This is also the reason why parachute deployment failed - the speed was too high at the time.
Thank you for the reply!
I wonder, what are the plans for Copenhagen Suborbitals now? Another one of these, with a guidance system?
On the site I saw some experimentation with dual-liquid fueled rockets aswell. Hopefully they have gotten good data / experience from this launch.
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#86
by
Danderman
on 03 Jun, 2011 20:21
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
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#87
by
Robotbeat
on 03 Jun, 2011 20:43
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
I don't think it's a first launch.
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#88
by
Patchouli
on 04 Jun, 2011 03:13
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Pretty good for a first launch. Anyone who gets their rocket flying is doing a pretty good job.
I don't think it's a first launch.
First launch second attempt at launch.
On the first attempt a LOX valve froze and it didn't leave the pad.
Considering they flew without the flight control system I say it went pretty good.
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#89
by
thomson
on 04 Jun, 2011 08:30
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Good work!
Any word on condition of the recovered rocket?
Btw I assume it is reusable. Is this correct? I couldn't find any statement regarding reusability on their website.
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#90
by
Lewis007
on 04 Jun, 2011 09:51
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Some nice pix of the launch are on the Copenhagen Suborbitals website
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#91
by
corrodedNut
on 05 Jun, 2011 02:44
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91Qm1GdBQE8&feature=youtu.be"Copenhagen Suborbitals:
First flight of the HEAT1X-Tycho Brahe ended with a splashdown of the Tycho spaceship after 86 seconds, 8 kilometers downrange from launch site.
The video depicts the pilot (dummy) POV throughout the flight. The parachutes did not deploy fully, so the impact was rough enough to dislodge the observation cupola upon splashdown. The spacecraft was otherwise mostly intact with only minor deformation and water damage.
59.97 as 25fps ~40% slowmotion version for 50Hz/PAL TV."
That's some thrust oscillation there, even at half speed.
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#92
by
Oberon_Command
on 05 Jun, 2011 03:17
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That's some thrust oscillation there, even at half speed.
No kidding. I was wondering how much oscillation those "pulses" in the exhaust you could see in the external view were actually inducing. I guess now I can stop. I wonder if they'll be bad enough that they have to put some sort of damping mechanism in.
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#93
by
Silmfeanor
on 12 Jun, 2011 14:13
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(perhaps this should be moved back to the suborbital forum )
They have put up a pretty big press pack for this launch now.
http://www.copenhagensuborbitals.com/campaignjune2011_data.phpincludes multiple video angles, pre -during and after launch pictures, and data. Some pretty nice close ups aswell.
Attached a picture from one of their photo albums.
The spcecraft took a hard landing and suffered quite some damage.
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#94
by
simonbp
on 13 Jun, 2011 00:05
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Whoa, that's some thrust oscillation! Sounded like a steam locomotive taking off!
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#95
by
Lars Tørnes Hansen
on 15 Aug, 2011 23:42
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Hi everybody
Here is a video with highlights, it nicely edited.
