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Online Phillip Clark

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Is Stan Black suggesting that Napryazhenie article 14Ф155 might be Cosmos 2519 amid all of that confusing cutting and pasting?
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Is Stan Black suggesting that Napryazhenie article 14Ф155 might be Cosmos 2519 amid all of that confusing cutting and pasting?

Nivelir and Napryazhenie are different satellites?
Nevilir is 14Ф150?
Napryazhenie is 14Ф155?

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Kosmos 2519 can have a different project number than the subsatellite.

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There was plans for one further Kobalt-M satellite?
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Письмом от 06.09.2012 № 333/3370-115 ОАО «МЗ «Арсенал» в связи с отсутствием решения  Генерального заказчика  дальнейшем производстве изделия  11Ф695  с №566 проинформировал истца о приостановлении истцом работ по изготовлению деталей по Договору, а также о приостановлении заказчиком закупки материалов (давальческого сырья) по Договору и невозможности указания точных сроков возобновления поставки этого сырья (том 1, л.д.43).
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Further Lotos-S, №806-809.
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Работа по определению возможности продления срока сохраняемости ЭРИ ИП ССКМ/145 для изделий 14Ф145 №806-809.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/223/plan/public/plan/info/positions.html?planId=374094&planInfoId=2246500&versioned=&activeTab=4
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Curious picture or Resurs-PM?
http://www.volgaspace.ru/RusNanoSat-2017/ar/plenary/Plenary_Kosmodemyanskiy.pdf

What is odd that the latest procurement plan from Roskosmos indicates it will fly with the same type of fairing as the older models.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/purchaseplanfz44/printForm/view.html?printFormId=13022351

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Anatoly Zak posted a similar picture on Facebook a while ago.   It looks as if the Kvarts design is replacing the digital Yantar platform for Resurs-PM.
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Curious picture or Resurs-PM?
http://www.volgaspace.ru/RusNanoSat-2017/ar/plenary/Plenary_Kosmodemyanskiy.pdf

What is odd that the latest procurement plan from Roskosmos indicates it will fly with the same type of fairing as the older models.
http://www.zakupki.gov.ru/epz/purchaseplanfz44/printForm/view.html?printFormId=13022351

earlier in 2017 Resurs-PM had been shown basically similar, but with solar arrays and some antennas repositioned. Anatoly Zak had this image on his site.

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Anatoly Zak posted a similar picture on Facebook a while ago.   It looks as if the Kvarts design is replacing the digital Yantar platform for Resurs-PM.

So Persona or Kvarts used 14С738. That formed the basis of the 81КС. The ST larger diameter type of fairing.

The smaller Bars-M use a variation of the old Yantar fairing.

Resurs-P too use a variation of the Yantar fairing.

The smaller Obzor-R is of the same type of satellite as Bars-M. However it is to fly with a 81КС fairing.
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What I do not
Anatoly Zak posted a similar picture on Facebook a while ago.   It looks as if the Kvarts design is replacing the digital Yantar platform for Resurs-PM.

So Persona or Kvarts used 14С737. That formed the basis of the 81КС. The ST larger diameter type of fairing.

The smaller Bars-M use a variation of the old Yantar fairing.

Resurs-P too use a variation of the Yantar fairing.

The smaller Obzor-R is of the same type of satellite as Bars-M. However it is to fly with a 81КС fairing.
They are also trying to standardize in the coming years the offerings of fairings for the Soyuz-2 family.

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http://mil.today/2016/Space1/

http://mapgroup.com.ua/kosmicheskie-apparaty/27-rossiya/1581-razdan-razdan-14f1156-1-2-3

The satellite in the photo certainly does not weigh 7000 kg.
(the picture is called "Tundra" ??)

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"Tundra" is the name of the new-generation early warning satellite system which has comprised Cosmos 2510 and Cosmos 2518 to date.   So, completely different to Razdan.
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I think the picture shows neither Tundra nor Rasdan.
Maybe a product of the imagination.

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I think the picture shows neither Tundra nor Rasdan.
Maybe a product of the imagination.

Ball BCP based satellite?

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I think the picture shows neither Tundra nor Rasdan.
Maybe a product of the imagination.

Ball BCP based satellite?

Yes, this is NASA's CloudSat

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http://russianspaceweb.com/eks-tundra.html#2018
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Geostationary version of the Tundra early warning satellite to be developed

In its annual report published in June 2018, RKK Energia announced that during 2017 it had been working on determining the design concept of a spacecraft for the geostationary orbit. Although, it was identified in the text as a "communications" satellite, the context of the document, mentioning launches of other such "communications" satellites in May 2017 and at the end of 2015 (exactly when the previous EKS missions lifted off), left no doubt that the information actually referred to the EKS/Tundra project.

The wording in the report seemingly confirmed that the geostationary version of the EKS/Tundra satellite was still in the early stage of development.

In the meantime, in June 2017, ISS Reshetnev announced that it had manufactured mechanical hardware for the solar panel rotation mechanism for the spacecraft built by RKK Energia. Reshetnev said that it had been the fifth copy of the system designed to point solar panels toward the Sun. Because the host spacecraft had not been identified, the announcement likely referred to the EKS/Tundra satellite as well.

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https://ria.ru/science/20180703/1523827872.html

According to Lev Shilov, deputy director of the Progress Rocket Center in Samara, the next-generation Resurs-PM satellites will be used for several other tasks apart from remote sensing, more particularly detection of missile launches, observations of objects in Earth orbit (both satellites and space debris) and astronomical observations.

Resurs-PM will be carrying both high-resolution and medium-resolution camera systems (identified by other sources as Pribor-OEK and Pribor-SR, see attached images) and both of these will be adapated for observations of objects in Earth orbit and outer space. The high-resolution cameras will be able to obtain detailed images of objects with a diameter of 5 m from a distance of 2800 km and the medium-resolution system will be able to detect such objects from a distance of 400 km. Shilov said the Resurs-P1 satellite was already used in 2012-2014 to photograph an (unidentified) satellite from a distance of 400-500 km.

Shilov stressed that Earth remote sensing remains the main purpose of the Resurs-PM satellites and that their cameras will only be aimed at objects if there is an urgent need to do so. In order to do that, the satellites will be equipped with micro engines that will allow them to make 180° turns in just four minutes. In that attitude the solar panels will not be facing the Sun, meaning the satellites will have to draw power from on-board batteries.  They will be able to remain in that attitude for 90 minutes. 

Shilov said three Resurs-PM satellites are currently planned for launch, the first in 2020, the second in 2021 and the third before 2025.

Since Resurs-PM is likely to be a civilian outgrowth of the current Persona reconnaissance satellites, one wonders if Persona also has an early warning and space surveillance capability.


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A newsletter of the Scientific Production Corporation ‘Precision Instrument Systems” (NPK SPP)  published in December 2016 mentions successful laser communication tests performed by satellites identified as 14F137 nr. 3 and 14F135 nr. 12. 14F137 nr. 3 is the third Persona optical reconnaissance satellite launched in June 2015 as Cosmos-2506.  14F135 is an unknown designator and what is probably meant is 14F136 nr. 12L, which is  the second Garpun military data relay satellite, launched in December 2015 as Cosmos-2513.  Also involved in the experiments were ground-based laser terminals in the Caucasus (Arkhyz) and the Altai mountains (presumably the Titov Optical Laser Center (AOLTs)).

http://www.npk-spp.ru/images/stories/gazeta/01.pdf

The annual report of NPK SPP for 2013 had already mentioned planned laser communication tests between a low-orbiting "remote sensing satellite" and a geostationary relay satellite under OKR (experimental design work) themes called “Yaguar” and “LT-150”. At the time, the experiments were expected to begin in 2014.

https://updoc.site/download/5ad06e629f45a_pdf

Writing on a forum, one insider has referred to LT-150 as “the receiving part of Yaguar” in geostationary orbit (with a data rate of 150 Mbit/s), so apparently Yaguar is the uplink system on Persona nr. 3 and LT-150 is the laser terminal on the Garpun satellite that picks up and relays the information.

https://nabbla1.livejournal.com/112884.html

NPK SPP pioneered Russian space-based laser communication experiments on the International Space Station in 2011-2012. A laser terminal called BTLS (see image) was mounted on the the outside of the Zvezda module for a series of experiments called SLS (Laser Communication System). The tests were limited to direct downlinks from ISS to the ground, but the second stage of the experiments was to see laser communication tests via Luch-5 data relay satellites.  See this TsNIIMash document:

http://knts.tsniimash.ru/ru/src/CenterInfRes/ИС%20СЛС_2013%20г.doc

However, the laser terminals developed for Luch (under an OKR known as “Lan’”) were not installed on any of the three Luch-5 satellites. It now looks like the laser communication experiments using a geostationary data relay satellite are scheduled for 2018-2020. They are called SLS-2 and will require a modernized laser terminal for ISS called BTLS-2. See this TsNIIMash document:

http://knts.tsniimash.ru/ru/site/Experiment_q.aspx?idE=340

Possibly, the geostationary laser terminal will be installed on the Yenisey-A1 satellite (which replaces the earlier planned Luch-4 satellite) that should be launched next year.

The same article in the 2016 NPK SPP newsletter also mentions successful tests of a laser rangefinder called 14V96 on the  14F148 nr. 1 and 2 satellites. These are the Bars-M topographic mapping satellites launched as  Cosmos-2503 in February 2015 and Cosmos-2515 in March 2016. The instrument is needed to accurately determine the scale of the geodetic images relayed by the satellites.  14V96 is said to be the first of a third generation of space-based laser rangefinders built by NPK SPP and has little in common with the 50 laser rangefinders of the first two generations that the company built last century.   Another designator for the same laser rangefinder may be LD-148. This is the designator for a space-based laser rangefinder given in NPK SPP’s 2013 annual report. Four of these were to be manufactured before 2020.   



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