Author Topic: Commercial Spaceflight Federation "Major Announcement" on Wednesday, April 13 (Read 35753 times)

majormajor42 · « **Reply #60 on:** 04/13/2011 07:48 pm »

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Agreement with NASA to outsource all commercial space crew/tourist training to JSC

I'm not sure I understand... What sort of training will JSC be doing exactly? Do you have a link?

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Seeing as we are all speculating WILDLY

sorry if you took me seriously.

still waiting hoping there is more too it than their new president announcement.

neilh · « **Reply #61 on:** 04/13/2011 07:51 pm »

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http://www.spacenews.com/venture_space/110413-steidle-tapped-run-commercial-spaceflight-federation.html

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Retired U.S. Navy Adm. Craig Steidle is taking the helm of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF), becoming the 5-year-old organization’s first full-time president, effective May 15. An announcement is planned for April 13 at the National Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colo.

Yup, it seems likely that the Q&A with the various companies will have to do more with welcoming Steidle, maybe some words on future direction of CSF, etc. Or maybe not?

if thats the case, then this was anti-climactic

Maybe a little, but I'm pretty excited about the Steidle announcement as-is. I'm a big Steidle fan.

Norm Hartnett · « **Reply #62 on:** 04/13/2011 07:51 pm »

<sigh> Much ado about nothing, the hints were there;

Quote from: John Gedmark on 04/13/2011 01:01 am

The announcement is one of importance to the space industry as a whole, not just to one particular company or combination of companies.

This is a side effect of the well known consequences of having three PR personnel in a sealed room. Either the room explodes from over-pressure or, if the room is not sufficiently anchored, the room reaches the upper Stratosphere due to the hot air generated. (There was a recent proposal to use this effect as a first stage for launching commercial rockets. Some objected that you couldn’t consider three PR personnel expendable, others disagreed.)

Namechange User · « **Reply #63 on:** 04/13/2011 07:54 pm »

Quote from: stockman on 04/13/2011 07:47 pm

Quote from: neilh on 04/13/2011 07:45 pm
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http://www.spacenews.com/venture_space/110413-steidle-tapped-run-commercial-spaceflight-federation.html

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Retired U.S. Navy Adm. Craig Steidle is taking the helm of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF), becoming the 5-year-old organization’s first full-time president, effective May 15. An announcement is planned for April 13 at the National Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colo.

Yup, it seems likely that the Q&A with the various companies will have to do more with welcoming Steidle, maybe some words on future direction of CSF, etc. Or maybe not?

if thats the case, then this was anti-climactic

Not only that, but lame. The CSF, in my opinion, tends to over-inflate everything. That could have consequences eventually. They bill something as a "major announcement", issue press releases, etc and it all turns out to be that someone got a new job. Hell, they even trumped themselves by then letting the cat out of the bag early.

I hope Adm. Steidle changes this because otherwise it will become increasingly difficult to take the seriously.

mr. mark · « **Reply #64 on:** 04/13/2011 07:58 pm »

Agreed. There are things we agree on.

Namechange User · « **Reply #65 on:** 04/13/2011 08:02 pm »

Quote from: neilh on 04/13/2011 07:51 pm

I'm a big Steidle fan.

Yeah, he's a cool guy but don't get your hopes up too high. He has no "control" over anything and certainly not the member companies. The CSF doesn't make/operate/analyze anything.

stockman · « **Reply #66 on:** 04/13/2011 08:03 pm »

Quote from: OV-106 on 04/13/2011 07:54 pm

Quote from: stockman on 04/13/2011 07:47 pm
Quote from: neilh on 04/13/2011 07:45 pm
Quote from: ugordan on 04/13/2011 07:43 pm
http://www.spacenews.com/venture_space/110413-steidle-tapped-run-commercial-spaceflight-federation.html

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Retired U.S. Navy Adm. Craig Steidle is taking the helm of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF), becoming the 5-year-old organization’s first full-time president, effective May 15. An announcement is planned for April 13 at the National Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colo.

Yup, it seems likely that the Q&A with the various companies will have to do more with welcoming Steidle, maybe some words on future direction of CSF, etc. Or maybe not?

if thats the case, then this was anti-climactic

Not only that, but lame. The CSF, in my opinion, tends to over-inflate everything. That could have consequences eventually. They bill something as a "major announcement", issue press releases, etc and it all turns out to be that someone got a new job. Hell, they even trumped themselves by then letting the cat out of the bag early.

I hope Adm. Steidle changes this because otherwise it will become increasingly difficult to take the seriously.

I agree with you OV-106.. I have no problem with the Steidle announcement as it stands but not if that is all there is given the hype generated... you do run the risk of crying wolf too often and then no one takes you seriously... Lets hope there is more meat on the bones that we haven't seen yet...

Cherokee43v6 · « **Reply #67 on:** 04/13/2011 08:03 pm »

Announcing your new leader IS a major announcement. It is they who set the organization's agenda.

So it's not some major technical widget symposium. Who is directing the course is not chickenfeed.

simonbp · « **Reply #68 on:** 04/13/2011 08:13 pm »

But what exactly is he directing? As far as I know, CSF is primarily a lobbying organization, promoting to Congress the services of of its members. Steidle's role, therefore, seems more of a big-name lobbyist...

mr. mark · « **Reply #69 on:** 04/13/2011 08:30 pm »

Has there been any more updates yet? Or is that really it? Kind of anticlimatic. He seems to a good choice though.

2552 · « **Reply #70 on:** 04/13/2011 09:08 pm »

Gwynne Shotwell and George Whitesides on panel “Emerging Markets and Applications” at NSS now:

http://twitter.com/#!/search?q=%23NSS27

Edit: Robert Bigelow there too.

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http://twitter.com/#!/SpaceFoundation/status/58275459208708096

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#NSS27 Bigelow: Lunar Depot Station architecture built on EELV capabilities

http://twitter.com/#!/ac_charania/status/58276848781623297

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Bigelow Aerospace presents lunar orbital base, outbound vehicle uses 11 centaur upper stages to LLO, follow on from DC FAA AST #nss27

http://twitter.com/#!/ac_charania/status/58277518280638464

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Bigelow sees first flight in 2015, SPaceX few hundred million of outside investment already obtained, could raise money without NASA #NSS27

http://twitter.com/#!/ac_charania/status/58277887127719937

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Bigelow Aerospace looking at care and welfare of leases from habitats as revenue, more than $200M in investment #NSS27

Ronsmytheiii · « **Reply #71 on:** 04/13/2011 09:15 pm »

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Bigelow: CCDev developments have spurred interest – expect first flight in early 2015

http://twitter.com/#!/SpaceFoundation

northanger · « **Reply #72 on:** 04/13/2011 09:17 pm »

Quote from: 2552 on 04/13/2011 09:08 pm

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#NSS27 Bigelow: Lunar Depot Station architecture built on EELV capabilities

hmm. That's ULA, right?

docmordrid · « **Reply #73 on:** 04/13/2011 10:10 pm »

Or FH.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #74 on:** 04/13/2011 10:17 pm »

Quote from: ugordan on 04/13/2011 07:43 pm

http://www.spacenews.com/venture_space/110413-steidle-tapped-run-commercial-spaceflight-federation.html

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Retired U.S. Navy Adm. Craig Steidle is taking the helm of the Commercial Spaceflight Federation (CSF), becoming the 5-year-old organization’s first full-time president, effective May 15. An announcement is planned for April 13 at the National Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colo.

We posted that on this very forum section several hours earlier.

Seen as you missed it...

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=24790.0

ugordan · « **Reply #75 on:** 04/13/2011 10:18 pm »

I didn't miss it. I was trying to make others stop speculating widely on what the "major announcement" would be.

jongoff · « **Reply #76 on:** 04/13/2011 11:10 pm »

Quote from: OV-106 on 04/13/2011 08:02 pm

Quote from: neilh on 04/13/2011 07:51 pm
I'm a big Steidle fan.

Yeah, he's a cool guy but don't get your hopes up too high. He has no "control" over anything and certainly not the member companies. The CSF doesn't make/operate/analyze anything.

Yeah, they're an industry trade association, not an engineering firm. That doesn't mean CSF hasn't been very helpful for the entrepreneurial part of the space industry. Metal benders and "PhDs spanking computers" (to use a Tim Pickens-ism) aren't the only people who contribute.

~Jon

robertross · « **Reply #77 on:** 04/14/2011 01:31 am »

Quote from: simonbp on 04/13/2011 08:13 pm

But what exactly is he directing? As far as I know, CSF is primarily a lobbying organization, promoting to Congress the services of of its members. Steidle's role, therefore, seems more of a big-name lobbyist...

UNLESS his role is to change that, and to put 'commercial' spaceflight on its own footing - as a consortium of commercial companies coming together (despite) government bungling, perhaps even getting ready to save it in its 'desperate' hour (ISS).

Always more powerful when you speak as one voice, and that voice has substance & respect behind it.

Namechange User · « **Reply #78 on:** 04/14/2011 01:35 am »

Quote from: jongoff on 04/13/2011 11:10 pm

......aren't the only people who contribute.

~Jon

Do me a favor? Remember that.

docmordrid · « **Reply #79 on:** 04/14/2011 02:13 am »

Quote from: robertross on 04/14/2011 01:31 am

UNLESS his role is to change that, and to put 'commercial' spaceflight on its own footing - as a consortium of commercial companies coming together (despite) government bungling, perhaps even getting ready to save it in its 'desperate' hour (ISS).

Always more powerful when you speak as one voice, and that voice has substance & respect behind it.

It's called a keiretsu - in Japan a group of companies with interlocking business relationships & interests acting for the good of all.