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Russian Moon Exploitation - Soyuz involved
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Sergi Manstov
on 27 Apr, 2006 13:04
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#1
by
Hotol
on 27 Apr, 2006 13:19
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As the article says, what would be the point when there's no customer yet?
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#2
by
Bill White
on 27 Apr, 2006 13:36
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#3
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Apr, 2006 15:18
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Any of our Russian friends know what this new Soyuz is about?
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#4
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kevin-rf
on 27 Apr, 2006 15:20
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One small quival with the article. I've always seen He3 being used for fusion and not fission. There is something special about He3 fusion, low neutron emissions or something.
Interesting article though.
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#5
by
nacnud
on 27 Apr, 2006 16:12
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He3 has no neutron emmison, thats the point. It's still currently a pipe dream though
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#6
by
Spacely
on 27 Apr, 2006 18:14
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Okay, I like the Russians. I think Soyuz is a great vehicle. I enjoy reading about their program's history.
But...
These days, does anyone take anything they say about space seriously? All their press releases seem to follow a familiar pattern, whereby a seemingly pedestrian technology/innovation/upgrade automaticallys leads to A. Moon landings, B. Mars landings. C. He3 mining, D. All of the above.
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#7
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Chris Bergin
on 27 Apr, 2006 19:37
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kevin-rf - 27/4/2006 4:20 PM
One small quival with the article. I've always seen He3 being used for fusion and not fission. There is something special about He3 fusion, low neutron emissions or something.
Interesting article though.
As editor, that was my fault. Corrected...thanks for the note.
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#8
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kevin-rf
on 27 Apr, 2006 20:41
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These days, does anyone take anything they say about space seriously? All their press releases seem to follow a familiar pattern, whereby a seemingly pedestrian technology/innovation/upgrade automaticallys leads to A. Moon landings, B. Mars landings. C. He3 mining, D. All of the above.
Reminds me of promises made to justify a reusuable vehicle. A delivery truck that would fly every two weeks and replace all throw away rockets. We all remember what happened ...
I get the feeling that many russian releases try desperately to justify the expenses of the space program by minimizing costs and hyping the potential returns to a point of stretching reality.
Reread with one eye open, we have a way to get to the moon, we have new digital flight control computers, we are working out the issues with the new computers, we plan to use the computers in klipper, we would like for someone to pay for our moon dreams.
Details of these new digital system would be nice. Will it increase the safety of the Soyuz?
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#9
by
wannamoonbase
on 27 Apr, 2006 21:10
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wow digital control on a soyuz
Can some of our US rocket scientists tell us what decade digital controls showed up on US rockets?
Seems like a pretty basic step and from that a jump to the moon? Are these press releases done for the less informed masses or prestige in the Domestic Russian media?
The frequent Russian press announcements are getting about as annoying as NASA's bi-monthly press releases about Amazing new proof of water on Mars.
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#10
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Spacely
on 28 Apr, 2006 02:38
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Oh, you're very right. When it comes to over-hyping Mars news, NASA's no better than the Russkies and their moon dreams. Maybe worse, considering that NASA press release ends up getting re-printed in every paper in the country.
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#11
by
Gagarin
on 28 Apr, 2006 06:24
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Chris Bergin - 27/4/2006 10:18 AM
Any of our Russian friends know what this new Soyuz is about?
as far as i understand from RIAN and other sources "new Soyuz" is in fact a testbed for advanced control systems for Kliper spacecraft. Sevastianov called it "Soyuz-TMA-Ts", Ts - "Tsifrovoy"=digital. This is 4th generation of Soyuz spacecraft, its planned to 2008. And of course, it is not intended for He3 mining.
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#12
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publiusr
on 28 Apr, 2006 21:11
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It kills me how the Russians have abandoned HLLVs.
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#13
by
Jim
on 28 Apr, 2006 23:01
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publiusr - 28/4/2006 5:11 PMIt kills me how the Russians have abandoned HLLVs.
HLLV's need a mission and money. No Russian missions exist to justify them
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#14
by
publiusr
on 29 Apr, 2006 20:22
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And yet they build an Angara when Proton will do just fine. People have just made their minds up to nix HLLVs when everyone overspends on the EELV class glut.
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#15
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Jim
on 29 Apr, 2006 21:18
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publiusr - 29/4/2006 4:22 PMAnd yet they build an Angara when Proton will do just fine. People have just made their minds up to nix HLLVs when everyone overspends on the EELV class glut.
Because that's where the money is. There isn no money or requirements for HLLV
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#16
by
anik
on 01 May, 2006 12:26
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wannamoonbase - 28/4/2006 1:10 AM
wow digital control on a soyuz
I should remind you that the first digital control system "Argon-16" began to fly aboard Soyuz in 1974 (Kosmos-670, without cosmonauts) and in 1980 (Soyuz T-2, with cosmonauts)... Therefore it is not surprisingly...
Chris Bergin - 27/4/2006 7:18 PM
Any of our Russian friends know what this new Soyuz is about?
According to Sergey Shamsutdinov from "Novosti kosmonavtiki" magazine a modified Soyuz TMA spacecraft (its serial numbers will begin from 701) will get new digital control system (instead of "Argon-16"), new telemetering system and then new Russian "Kurs-N" approaching and docking system (instead of Ukrainian "Kurs")...
A new digital control system will be tested aboard modified Progress M cargo ship (its serial numbers will begin from 401) since the end of 2007 and then will fly aboard modified Soyuz TMA since the end of 2008...
