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#20 by Satori on 25 Apr, 2006 17:27
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Did it launch?
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#21 by astropl on 25 Apr, 2006 17:29
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QuoteFlightstar - 25/4/2006 12:08 PM
Did it launch?
Yas, it did! See (in russian!) http://www.itar-tass.com/level2.html?NewsID=7036570&PageNum=0
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#22 by Sergi Manstov on 25 Apr, 2006 17:50
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#23 by James Lowe1 on 25 Apr, 2006 17:56
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QuoteSatori - 25/4/2006 7:27 PM
QuoteFlightstar - 25/4/2006 12:08 PM
Did it launch?
Yas, it did! See (in russian!) http://www.itar-tass.com/level2.html?NewsID=7036570&PageNum=0
Launch successful! http://rian.ru/technology/cosmos/20060425/46908308.html
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#24 by Satori on 25 Apr, 2006 17:59
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>Will that eventually be on the English lanuage site?[/QUOTE]
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#25 by Satori on 25 Apr, 2006 18:05
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>Will that eventually be on the English lanuage site?
Yes, just wait a few hours or soo...[/QUOTE]
...or a few minutes. From ITAR-TASS in english http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=7037669&PageNum=0 -
#26 by edkyle99 on 25 Apr, 2006 18:13
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Satori - 25/4/2006 12:59 PM
>Will that eventually be on the English lanuage site?
Yes, just wait a few hours or soo...
By Babel Fish, the pertinant details of the story are that EROS-B
was successfully inserted into the planned orbit, which was
roughly a 600 km sun synchronous orbit. Launch from Svobodny
was at 16:47 UTC. Spacecraft deployment was at 17:03 UTC.
EROS-B supplements EROS-A, which was also launched by a Start-1
on 12/5/2000.
Four-stage Start-1 has a 47 tonne liftoff mass. Start-1 was developed
"by the cooperation of industrial enterprises, headed by scientific and
technical center complex - MIT, created with the Moscow institute of
heat engineering". Start-1 launches can also take place from Plesetsk.
By my count, this was the sixth Start-1 orbital mission since the first
in 1993 (but the first such launch since 2001). All six Start-1 flights
were successful, but a single "Start" launch attempt with a five-stage
variant failed in 1995. Including the Start launches, my list shows
nearly 70 Topol'-based launches since 1982.
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#27 by James Lowe1 on 25 Apr, 2006 18:15
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#28 by Launch Fan on 25 Apr, 2006 23:17
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Seems this launch was a lot more serious than we thought!
http://in.today.reuters.com/News/newsArticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-04-26T005344Z_01_NOOTR_RTRJONC_0_India-246398-1.xml -
#29 by Skyrocket on 26 Apr, 2006 10:11
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Here is a launch video of the Start-1 / EROS-A satellite from December 2000:
http://www.imagesatintl.com/files/Multimedia_Downloads/EROS_A_Launch.avi
Probably no other rocket has such a short time beween erecting of the launch vehicle to launch.
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#30 by eeergo on 26 Apr, 2006 19:55
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Thanks for that interesting video! It's kind of funny how the top cone falls to the ground before erection... looks like a cartoon!:) However, it's very nice to see such a "mobile" launch pad!
What are the little explosions that happen just before ignition, while the rocket is climbing through the cylinder? Any kind of system to make it go up?
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#31 by edkyle99 on 26 Apr, 2006 20:37
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Here is a launch video of the Start-1 / EROS-A satellite from December 2000:
http://www.imagesatintl.com/files/Multimedia_Downloads/EROS_A_Launch.avi
Probably no other rocket has such a short time beween erecting of the launch vehicle to launch.
Gunter
An impressive launch system - frighteningly so when you consider that these missile are still active. It puts to serious shame all of the failed U.S. attempts to produce a mobile ICBM system (e.g. rail-mobile MX, small-ICBM, etc.).
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#32 by edkyle99 on 26 Apr, 2006 20:48
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eeergo - 26/4/2006 2:55 PM
Thanks for that interesting video! It's kind of funny how the top cone falls to the ground before erection... looks like a cartoon!:) However, it's very nice to see such a "mobile" launch pad!
What are the little explosions that happen just before ignition, while the rocket is climbing through the cylinder? Any kind of system to make it go up?
A "solid propellant hot gas generator" produces the gasses that push the rocket up and out of the launch canister.
My guess is that the little explosions are charges firing to free the "sabots" that protect the launcher within the launch canister and the "seal sabot" that pushes the launcher out of the canister.
Just a guess though.
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#33 by Jim on 26 Apr, 2006 23:41
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They weren't failed attempts to produce; the US systems worked. The US Gov't decided not to field the systemQuoteSkyrocket - 26/4/2006 5:11 AMHere is a launch video of the Start-1 / EROS-A satellite from December 2000:http://www.imagesatintl.com/files/Multimedia_Downloads/EROS_A_Launch.aviProbably no other rocket has such a short time beween erecting of the launch vehicle to launch.Gunter
An impressive launch system - frighteningly so when you consider that these missile are still active. It puts to serious shame all of the failed U.S. attempts to produce a mobile ICBM system (e.g. rail-mobile MX, small-ICBM, etc.). - Ed Kyle -
#34 by edkyle99 on 27 Apr, 2006 01:28
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Quoteedkyle99 - 26/4/2006 4:37 PM
They weren't failed attempts to produce; the US systems worked. The US Gov't decided not to field the systemQuoteSkyrocket - 26/4/2006 5:11 AMHere is a launch video of the Start-1 / EROS-A satellite from December 2000:http://www.imagesatintl.com/files/Multimedia_Downloads/EROS_A_Launch.aviProbably no other rocket has such a short time beween erecting of the launch vehicle to launch.Gunter
An impressive launch system - frighteningly so when you consider that these missile are still active. It puts to serious shame all of the failed U.S. attempts to produce a mobile ICBM system (e.g. rail-mobile MX, small-ICBM, etc.). - Ed Kyle
That was part of the failure - the decision (by Bush #1) not to field the alredy-developed, successfully-tested, cost-effective "Midgetman" (SICBM) while Russia went ahead at the same time with full-scale development of Topol'-M. The other part of the failure was the wasted effort, money, and time spent trying to turn the much heavier MX missile into a mobile launch system until the belated, practical decision was finally made to develop SICBM.
Now the U.S. can only sit and watch while satellite owners effectively fund Topol'-M practice launches (the EROS-B launch was performed by Russian "Space Forces" units) whenever a Start-1 launch occurs.
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#35 by Jim on 27 Apr, 2006 01:39
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Neither was really required
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#36 by edkyle99 on 29 Apr, 2006 18:17
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Neither was really required
Thank God, or whomever, for that!
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#37 by Bricktop on 01 May, 2006 15:29
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#38 by sammie on 01 May, 2006 15:58
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Thanks, grainy but still very interesting!
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#39 by sammie on 04 Aug, 2006 22:42
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Im thinking of preparing a wikipage on the start Launch Vehicles and while pondering the whole thing a number of questions popped in my mind. Hopefully some of you can help me out here.
There is also a 5 stage version of the Start-1 LV, called Start. It is a larger vehicle because they added another 2nd stage to it. It was launched once from Plestek but it ended in failure. My question is, where was it launched from? It's 6 meter longer so I doubt that they could have placed it in a TEL like the Start-1. Is it possible to launch this longer vehicle from Svobodny Cosmodrome?
The second thing that made me wonder, how come the Start-1 actually fits in the standard TEL, its a good meter long then the ICBM and I was surprised by the extra space in the launch tube. Or have they made a special TEL for the commercial launches?
