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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #440 on: 11/04/2014 12:55 AM »
With Mr. Hale on the AIB, we know one thing - sloppy or wasteful thinking will be met with resistance!

Hmmm...not sure if I'd want to be on that team or not!!!

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #441 on: 11/04/2014 01:43 AM »
I would. He'll bring the best out of everybody.

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #442 on: 11/04/2014 06:12 AM »
That bit of info just raised my trust in the AIB to properly get to the bottom of this by about 500%.

(...not to mean that I didn't trust any AIB they'd select, just that I trust one with Wayne Hale on it a lot more)

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #443 on: 01/15/2015 11:41 PM »
I know it was at JSC, I'm thinking STS-114 FD2 MSB, as opposed to post-MMT. I'd LOVE to see it again.

Awesome man.

I do have these files seemingly from FD2:
mmt_briefing_072705.wmv with Mr. Parsons and Mr. Hale
status_brief_072705.wmv Mr. Engelauf and Mr. Shannon

You wrote your article on July 27th.
The Launch was on July 26th.

Then there is
status_brief_072805.wmv Mr. Hill and Mr. Shannon, and in this one Mr. Hill has different clothes compared to the image in you article.

Do I miss a briefing with Mr. Hill here..

A flash from the past.

I've now found a copy of the missing STS-114 MSB.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?187981-2/space-shuttle-discovery-mission-status

To save you some time, its at 33min 10s in.

Mr. Hill really is Hitman.


edit:
A small rundown:
In 2012 the video was not available on C-Span, I remember looking for it everywhere. Now found it, when looking at other stuff on my HDD, and then deciding on to googling a bit....
In video, Mr. Hill gets hammered with all kinds of questions, and a BBC reporter then asks a lengthy question, asking things all over again in vague way. Mr. Hill then answers that, and during that answer, Mr. Hale enters the room. Legendary. I remember seeing this live, now that I think of it. Quoting Chris B: "It's the most epic thing!"


edit2: I've done what Chris asked below - he has the clip now. Not really worth to post it in a new post.
« Last Edit: 01/23/2015 05:11 PM by mtakala24 »

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #444 on: 01/15/2015 11:47 PM »
I know it was at JSC, I'm thinking STS-114 FD2 MSB, as opposed to post-MMT. I'd LOVE to see it again.

Awesome man.

I do have these files seemingly from FD2:
mmt_briefing_072705.wmv with Mr. Parsons and Mr. Hale
status_brief_072705.wmv Mr. Engelauf and Mr. Shannon

You wrote your article on July 27th.
The Launch was on July 26th.

Then there is
status_brief_072805.wmv Mr. Hill and Mr. Shannon, and in this one Mr. Hill has different clothes compared to the image in you article.

Do I miss a briefing with Mr. Hill here..

A flash from the past.

I've now found a copy of the missing STS-114 MSB.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?187981-2/space-shuttle-discovery-mission-status

To save you some time, its at 33min 10s in.

Mr. Hill really is Hitman.

So, so happy that's been found again.

He had everything in there. Technical, concise, passion, firmness - it's so brilliant.

Was the focus of one of the first articles I wrote on the site 10 years ago! (messy format, as it was from about three versions of the CMS ago)
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2005/07/hitman-hill-lays-down-the-law/

If someone can edit out that question and answer from that point in the video (and through to Mr. Hale's first answer), please find a way. I want to share it on youtube.
« Last Edit: 01/16/2015 12:02 AM by Chris Bergin »

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #445 on: 01/15/2015 11:55 PM »
I know it was at JSC, I'm thinking STS-114 FD2 MSB, as opposed to post-MMT. I'd LOVE to see it again.

Awesome man.

I do have these files seemingly from FD2:
mmt_briefing_072705.wmv with Mr. Parsons and Mr. Hale
status_brief_072705.wmv Mr. Engelauf and Mr. Shannon

You wrote your article on July 27th.
The Launch was on July 26th.

Then there is
status_brief_072805.wmv Mr. Hill and Mr. Shannon, and in this one Mr. Hill has different clothes compared to the image in you article.

Do I miss a briefing with Mr. Hill here..

A flash from the past.

I've now found a copy of the missing STS-114 MSB.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?187981-2/space-shuttle-discovery-mission-status

To save you some time, its at 33min 10s in.

Mr. Hill really is Hitman.

Thats a play through, thanks for posting.  Can never have enough Shuttle.
Paul

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #446 on: 01/16/2015 12:19 AM »
I know it was at JSC, I'm thinking STS-114 FD2 MSB, as opposed to post-MMT. I'd LOVE to see it again.

Awesome man.

I do have these files seemingly from FD2:
mmt_briefing_072705.wmv with Mr. Parsons and Mr. Hale
status_brief_072705.wmv Mr. Engelauf and Mr. Shannon

You wrote your article on July 27th.
The Launch was on July 26th.

Then there is
status_brief_072805.wmv Mr. Hill and Mr. Shannon, and in this one Mr. Hill has different clothes compared to the image in you article.

Do I miss a briefing with Mr. Hill here..

A flash from the past.

I've now found a copy of the missing STS-114 MSB.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?187981-2/space-shuttle-discovery-mission-status

To save you some time, its at 33min 10s in.

Mr. Hill really is Hitman.

So, so happy that's been found again.

He had everything in there. Technical, concise, passion, firmness - it's so brilliant.

Was the focus of one of the first articles I wrote on the site 10 years ago! (messy format, as it was from about three versions of the CMS ago)
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2005/07/hitman-hill-lays-down-the-law/

If someone can edit out that question and answer from that point in the video (and through to Mr. Hale's first answer), please find a way. I want to share it on youtube.
I'd love a photocopy of Mr Hills handwritten notes.  There would be a lot more message than the actual words he wrote.

Loved Mr Hills response. And love the wink Mr Hale gets when he arrives in the room.  Mr Hale is exhibiting hyper-calmness, and support for the team.
« Last Edit: 01/16/2015 12:22 AM by Hog »
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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #447 on: 01/16/2015 10:03 AM »
From twitter:
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@waynehale
Off to Virginia for a solid week of engineering work!

From http://www.orbital.com/NewsInfo/MissionUpdates/Orb-3/
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The composition of the AIB is as follows: [...]
Members
[...]
Wayne Hale, Independent Consultant and Former NASA Space Shuttle Program Manager

It is interesting, that currently this string is:
Wayne Hale, Director of Human Spaceflight, Special Aerospace Services

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #448 on: 01/22/2015 05:25 PM »
And many thanks to mtakala24's skills, here's the edited part of that MSB, with Mr. Hill in top form and Mr. Hale joining mid-way.



I'm going to hard link this, so some explanations some folks may have missed earlier in the thread.

This features the brilliant Paul Hill - then Flight Director for STS-114, and went on to become MOD Director - dealing with a reporter during the the STS-114 Flight Day 2 (I believe it was FD2) MSB.

I remember watching this live as it was the first mission the site covered when we started it 10 years ago.

We know Flight Directors sometimes have to deal with these briefings after a very busy shift, so it's usually best - and usually the case - that reporters should ask short, specific questions. That was very much the case for later flights, as it was mainly space beat reporters and they knew their stuff, you know, like Bill, Robert, Mark and so on.....

Given this was RTF, there was a lot of media attention and a lot of reporters not from the space beat asking questions.
The reporter asking this question was somewhat all over the place and asking Mr. Hill something he had already addressed.

How he dealt with it was wondrous in my eyes, even if it probably wasn't "how to deal with bad questions, 101" (I'm guessing there's a media training module in the MOD classes). However, I thought this was professional, to the point, passionate and just downright brilliant.

His answer said more about MOD and SSP to me than a 1000 books ever could. I dare say he - via this one answer - shaped how I reported things on this site over the coming years.
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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #449 on: 01/23/2015 02:22 PM »
And many thanks to mtakala24's skills, here's the edited part of that MSB, with Mr. Hill in top form and Mr. Hale joining mid-way.



I'm going to hard link this, so some explanations some folks may have missed earlier in the thread.

This features the brilliant Paul Hill - then Flight Director for STS-114, and went on to become MOD Director - dealing with a reporter during the the STS-114 Flight Day 2 (I believe it was FD2) MSB.

I remember watching this live as it was the first mission the site covered when we started it 10 years ago.

We know Flight Directors sometimes have to deal with these briefings after a very busy shift, so it's usually best - and usually the case - that reporters should ask short, specific questions. That was very much the case for later flights, as it was mainly space beat reporters and they knew their stuff, you know, like Bill, Robert, Mark and so on.....

Given this was RTF, there was a lot of media attention and a lot of reporters not from the space beat asking questions.
The reporter asking this question was somewhat all over the place and asking Mr. Hill something he had already addressed.

How he dealt with it was wondrous in my eyes, even if it probably wasn't "how to deal with bad questions, 101" (I'm guessing there's a media training module in the MOD classes). However, I thought this was professional, to the point, passionate and just downright brilliant.

His answer said more about MOD and SSP to me than a 1000 books ever could. I dare say he - via this one answer - shaped how I reported things on this site over the coming years.

Great video and post. You're right, the "space beat" reporters usually show the right tone in their questions. This reporter tries, but there's an obvious feel he was looking for an angle. Not sure why that is?

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #450 on: 01/26/2015 09:21 PM »
Wow.  It took over a minute and a half to ask the question.  Mr BBC got owned.
Paul

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #451 on: 02/01/2015 09:19 PM »
Looks like we're going to get a series on RTF!

https://waynehale.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/february-first-again/

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #452 on: 02/13/2015 06:20 AM »
Maybe I'm reading (hoping) too much in this Twitter post today: "Back in Denver for space work again. Hope to get Americans flying into space on American craft soon!"

but isn't SNC the only spaceflight show in town in Denver? Is Mr. Hale working with SNC on DC?
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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #453 on: 02/13/2015 06:42 AM »
Maybe I'm reading (hoping) too much in this Twitter post today: "Back in Denver for space work again. Hope to get Americans flying into space on American craft soon!"

but isn't SNC the only spaceflight show in town in Denver? Is Mr. Hale working with SNC on DC?
ULA is headquartered in Denver, Colo.
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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #454 on: 02/13/2015 03:26 PM »
Maybe I'm reading (hoping) too much in this Twitter post today: "Back in Denver for space work again. Hope to get Americans flying into space on American craft soon!"

but isn't SNC the only spaceflight show in town in Denver? Is Mr. Hale working with SNC on DC?
ULA is headquartered in Denver, Colo.
Special Aerospace Services is also in the area -- headquarters in Boulder.


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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #456 on: 07/29/2015 10:04 PM »
New post -- "Pilot Error is Never Root Cause"
https://waynehale.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/pilot-error-is-never-root-cause/

For what it's worth, one little nitpick -- I believe STS-28 was Brewster Shaw's second command of a Shuttle mission.  His first was STS-61B on Atlantis in late 1985.
« Last Edit: 07/29/2015 10:20 PM by psloss »

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #457 on: 07/30/2015 01:13 PM »
New post -- "Pilot Error is Never Root Cause"
https://waynehale.wordpress.com/2015/07/29/pilot-error-is-never-root-cause/

For what it's worth, one little nitpick -- I believe STS-28 was Brewster Shaw's second command of a Shuttle mission.  His first was STS-61B on Atlantis in late 1985.


In the new post, Wayne makes reference to something called "Hochstein's Law", which he notes is discussed in an older post.  Turns out the older post is on his old nasa.gov blog, not his current WordPress blog - the link to it is https://blogs.nasa.gov/waynehalesblog/2009/08/21/post_1250882977865/
« Last Edit: 07/30/2015 01:16 PM by mheney »

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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #458 on: 08/07/2015 08:29 PM »
Another blog entry, "hot off the press".  Titled "Specific Plans".

Thank you Mr Hale.

https://waynehale.wordpress.com/
« Last Edit: 08/07/2015 08:31 PM by Hog »
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Re: Wayne Hale sets up his own blog site
« Reply #459 on: 08/07/2015 09:48 PM »
Another blog entry, "hot off the press".  Titled "Specific Plans".

Thank you Mr Hale.

https://waynehale.wordpress.com/

Mr. Hale mentioning Zephram Cockrane is rather epic! ;D

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