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NASA has been asked to help the 33 miners trapped more than 2,300 ft underground.


Rescuers are using plastic supply tubes, called "doves", to deliver supplies to the miners, who were trapped in a 500 sq ft passage by a rock collapse in the San Jose gold and copper mine in Chile.

http://www.vancouversun.com/Space+technology+could+help+Chilean+miners+survive/3431312/story.html

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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #1 on: 08/24/2010 08:59 PM »
I really feel for these folks...presumably food, water and medical supplies are being sent down. Any idea how deep? And how wide is the 'supply' shaft?

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Its around 2300ft deep and the supply shaft is really narrow, a couple of inches. Theres another news around that estimates that the rescue will most likely take place around Christmas timeframe... and that the miners haven't been told that yet.

Interesting story, lets see how this develops and whether NASA can offer any help.

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Chile is asking NASA to send a team of two or three experts on nutritional and psychological issues, Manalich said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/08/25/chile.miners/index.html

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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #4 on: 08/26/2010 12:40 PM »
Don´t want to sound cynic in any way - but if those 33 come out alive and well after 4 months they´re qualified for a Mars mission. At least from a psychological point of view.

Good luck to each one of them!

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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #5 on: 08/26/2010 12:50 PM »
Reminds me of A.C.Clarke's novel "Fall of moondust". Very similar scenario. I hope that the outcome will be the same as in that novel...

Wish them all the best. For me, being a little claustrophobic, such scenario is my personal nightmare. I feel very strongly for them and their families.
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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #6 on: 08/26/2010 01:33 PM »
Yeah, this sure sounds like 'hell' down there. I was reading that the current shaft is about 6 inches wide...enough for air and small supplies. Sanitation is going to be a real problem.

Bring down bed rolls, a power cord, fiber optic comm equipment...

Maybe it would be a benefit to tranq. some of the miners for a while, in rotation...

4 months, 33 guys, and a living room.

Could an oil well drill with a 24" inside diameter casing get to 2300 feet faster than 4 months I wonder...?




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MEDIA ADVISORY: M10-122

NASA TV AIRS INTERVIEW EXCERPTS ABOUT ASSISTANCE TO TRAPPED MINERS IN CHILE

HOUSTON -- From 5:30-6 p.m. EDT, NASA Television will air excerpts of
an interview with Dr. Michael Duncan, who is leading a NASA team to
Chile. NASA has been asked by the Chilean government through the U.S.
Department of State to provide technical advice that might assist the
trapped miners at the San Jose gold and copper mine near Copiapo,
Chile.

Duncan is the deputy chief medical officer in the Space Life Sciences
Directorate at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston. He and three
other NASA experts are traveling to Chile next week to provide advice
and consultation on medical, nutritional and behavioral health
issues.

These excerpts will be re-aired as part of the regular NASA TV Video
File on the Media and Public Channels. For future air times and
streaming video, downlink and scheduling information, visit:



http://www.nasa.gov/ntv


Later in the day, NASA also will post the interview online at:



http://www.nasa.gov/videos

Offline Space Pete

NASA TV Video: "Interview about NASA assistance to trapped miners in Chile".


Bob Thirsk is being brought in! :)
WHAT NOW? Rescuers call in Canadian astronaut for help.

And here's a good article from New Scientist.
How astronauts' experience could help trapped miners.
« Last Edit: 08/29/2010 04:06 PM by Space Pete »
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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #11 on: 09/01/2010 07:45 PM »
Yeah, this sure sounds like 'hell' down there. I was reading that the current shaft is about 6 inches wide...enough for air and small supplies. Sanitation is going to be a real problem.

Bring down bed rolls, a power cord, fiber optic comm equipment...

Maybe it would be a benefit to tranq. some of the miners for a while, in rotation...

4 months, 33 guys, and a living room.

Could an oil well drill with a 24" inside diameter casing get to 2300 feet faster than 4 months I wonder...?





NASA probably can send down some of the Apollo waste bags which I believe are still used as an emergency backup on the Shuttle if the toilet breaks.

They also have access to about 2KM of tunnels attached to the room.
It's been suggest they could do some prospecting in the tunnels to keep themselves occupied.
They also can be used for waste disposal.

The tunnels are one of the things that kept them alive as the air in a living room sized cavity would have been used up in a day or so.
Plus gold and copper mines tend to be wet from underground springs which they have been using as a source of drinking water.

Moisture related illnesses such as trench foot could become a problem since it is wet and humid down there.

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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #12 on: 09/01/2010 08:10 PM »
Yeah, this sure sounds like 'hell' down there. I was reading that the current shaft is about 6 inches wide...enough for air and small supplies. Sanitation is going to be a real problem.

Bring down bed rolls, a power cord, fiber optic comm equipment...

Maybe it would be a benefit to tranq. some of the miners for a while, in rotation...

4 months, 33 guys, and a living room.

Could an oil well drill with a 24" inside diameter casing get to 2300 feet faster than 4 months I wonder...?





NASA probably can send down some of the Apollo waste bags which I believe are still used as an emergency backup on the Shuttle if the toilet breaks.

They also have access to about 2KM of tunnels attached to the room.
It's been suggest they could do some prospecting in the tunnels to keep themselves occupied.
I was wondering about that.
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They also can be used for waste disposal.

The tunnels are one of the things that kept them alive as the air in a living room sized cavity would have been used up in a day or so.
Plus gold and copper mines tend to be wet from underground springs which they have been using as a source of drinking water.

Moisture related illnesses such as trench foot could become a problem since it is wet and humid down there.
I was also wondering about that... I wonder, what options do they really have? Is it possible to just pipe cool, dry air down the hole when they aren't sending/receiving something? Can they fit some kind of dehumidifier in the tube, and do they have power down there?
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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #13 on: 09/01/2010 09:44 PM »
I think it'd be really cool to let the miners talk to folks on the ISS, if they get a chance. Kind of a neat international outreach and a good way for NASA to maximize the good press they're getting with helping out the miners.
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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #14 on: 09/03/2010 08:56 PM »
MEDIA ADVISORY: M10-127

NASA SETS BRIEFING ABOUT ASSISTANCE TO TRAPPED MINERS IN CHILE



HOUSTON -- A NASA team sent to Chile to aid trapped miners will hold a
news conference about their work at the San Jose gold and copper mine
near Copiapo at noon CDT, Tuesday, Sept. 7. The conference will be at
NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, and it will air live on NASA
Television and the agency's website.

The participants also will answer questions from reporters at
participating NASA centers. For journalists not able to attend at a
NASA center, a limited number of phone lines are available by calling
281-483-5111 by 11:45 a.m. on Tuesday.

U.S. news media planning to attend the briefing in person must contact
the Johnson newsroom at 281-483-5111 by 10 a.m. Tuesday. Reporters
interested in a one-on-one interview must contact the Johnson
newsroom by 11:30 a.m. Tuesday.

NASA responded to a request from the government of Chile, submitted
through the U.S. Department of State, to provide technical advice
that might assist the trapped miners. The NASA team of two medical
doctors, a psychologist and an engineer arrived in Chile Aug. 31.

Dr. Michael Duncan, deputy chief medical officer in the Space Life
Sciences Directorate at Johnson, led the team. The other members are
physician James Polk and psychologist Albert Holland from Johnson;
and Clint Cragg, principal engineer with the NASA Engineering and
Safety Center located at NASA's Langley Research Center in Hampton,
Va.

The team will participate in the news conference. Afterward, Duncan
will be available for one-on-one interviews.

For NASA TV downlink, schedule and streaming video information, visit:



http://www.nasa.gov/ntv


For more information about NASA's assistance in Chile, visit:


http://www.nasa.gov/news/chile_assistance.html   

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Re: Chilean miners trapped underground - NASA asked for help
« Reply #16 on: 09/07/2010 07:50 PM »
Media Briefing On NASA’s Assistance to the Trapped Chilean Miners
http://www.space-multimedia.nl.eu.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6138

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Copiapo, Chile (CNN) -- Rescuers in Chile expect to reach 33 trapped miners as early as mid-October -- sooner than previously expected.

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/10/01/chile.trapped.miners/index.html


I wonder if we'll get an update of the help that NASA is giving to them.

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Better than expected:

"Engineers drilling to reach 33 trapped miners in Chile say the men might be rescued as early as this weekend."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11472563

Offline mtakala24

Rescuers have drilled through to the underground chamber where 33 Chilean miners have been trapped since August.

The breakthrough at the San Jose mine came shortly after 0800 local time (1200 GMT), sparking celebrations.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11506710

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