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#20
by
Lars_J
on 24 Aug, 2010 17:13
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I beleve every person's life has value. What can be gained by this? Certainly nothing of scientific value. I'm not even sure this has commercial value. This reminds me of the guy in the circus being blow out of a cannon but, at least he had a net. ...
Why does it matter to you? Are they forcing you to go on the rocket? Life matters, but so does free choice.
Stop with the overly safe nanny society. There will always be risks associate with spaceflight. Some accept that. Some do not. But for heaven's sake, stop trying to impose your acceptable level of risk on others!
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#21
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mr. mark
on 24 Aug, 2010 17:32
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I'm not saying that there needs to be over regulation but, just like the FAA here there needs to be regulation for the public's safety. I can't tow some guy on a rug behind my car but, I have seen it done and people got hurt. You can tie a guy to a plane but, I would not advice it. This project is along that line of thinking. As, you can see there alot of people with NASA backgrounds who have shown some level of concern especially, for the person in the so called capsule. I can shove a bottle rocket up my you know where and light it but that does not make me an astronaut, just a stupid fool.
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#22
by
Zapp
on 24 Aug, 2010 17:47
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It's just a unmanned test flight, it's not like the are launching humans in it on its first flight like say STS-1
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#23
by
Silmfeanor
on 24 Aug, 2010 17:55
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I'm not saying that there needs to be over regulation but, just like the FAA here there needs to be regulation for the public's safety. I can't tow some guy on a rug behind my car but, I have seen it done and people got hurt. You can tie a guy to a plane but, I would not advice it. This project is along that line of thinking. As, you can see there alot of people with NASA backgrounds who have shown some level of concern especially, for the person in the so called capsule.
There is regulation for the public's safety. They got an assigned launch area ( a military missile range ). For the volunteers themselves, I regard this venture to climbing mount everest. Its not forbidden. People die when doing it. They think its worth it. Here they do unmanned test flights first. Static fire testing. They have nasa engineers on their teams. They do wish to survive. They are not stupid. And the biggest answer to your objections ( next to the unmanned test flight
s ) is the fact that they are all volunteers aware of the risks. They can do whatever the hell they want.
I can shove a bottle rocket up my you know where and light it but that does not make me an astronaut, just a stupid fool.
You can however launch a volunteer made-donation funded single stage hybrid rocket engine from a sea platform in your designated firing range and make it to above 100 km in a suborbital flight with a voluntary human passenger after several (static and flight )test firings which removed the flaws in the system and call yourself an astronaut. A privately funded astronaut even. And that that'll be what you are. That does not make you a stupid fool at all.
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#24
by
mlorrey
on 24 Aug, 2010 21:51
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I'm not saying that there needs to be over regulation but, just like the FAA here there needs to be regulation for the public's safety. I can't tow some guy on a rug behind my car but, I have seen it done and people got hurt. You can tie a guy to a plane but, I would not advice it. This project is along that line of thinking. As, you can see there alot of people with NASA backgrounds who have shown some level of concern especially, for the person in the so called capsule. I can shove a bottle rocket up my you know where and light it but that does not make me an astronaut, just a stupid fool.
Oh please, drop the pollyannish hand wringing, would you? If you'd actually inspected their site, you'd find the map of the launch zone, which is a restricted military zone in the Baltic Sea, so there is no risk of this rocket landing on anybody's patio. They have the Danish ministry of transportation overseeing things (nice picture of the minister visiting their shop).
Their lives are not yours to dictate upon. If they want to risk them, it is their right to do so. It is clear from their launch record, and their history developing this submarine (actually that is the second submarine they have built, btw, both of which operate very safely), that they are very careful people who are following a responsible test program.
The astronaut doesn't fully stand in the capsule, btw, he is strapped into a five point harness, so he's in a squat/stand that spreads loads between the feet and the buttocks. This allows for twice the g-tolerance than simple standing permits. If the astronaut can squat lift 150% of his body mass at a gym, then he should be able to tolerate peak sustained accelerations of 4 g's without problem.
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#25
by
XP67_Moonbat
on 25 Aug, 2010 04:11
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#26
by
Space Possum
on 25 Aug, 2010 13:09
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As stated in an above post, they are planning a wider diameter version. That would probably allow a seated "Feet forward" position. They could even add a canopy for the head of the crewman, depending on how they plan to re-enter and decelerate. It's not as crazy as some things I've seen and certainly well thought out. I wish them success and it looks like a fun ride! I'd be up for it!!!
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#27
by
pippin
on 25 Aug, 2010 23:14
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If anybody wants to understand what "Thrust Oscillation" means, this is a nice example.
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#28
by
simonbp
on 26 Aug, 2010 02:39
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If anybody wants to understand what "Thrust Oscillation" means, this is a nice example.
Yeah, no kidding. And the test stand effectively damps out some of that, so the in-flight TO is going to be worse...
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#29
by
rklaehn
on 26 Aug, 2010 18:34
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Here is an interview with one of the founders:
link.
They intend to fly it unmanned many times before they put somebody in it. And the first passenger will be mr. madsen himself.
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#30
by
go2mars
on 26 Aug, 2010 20:03
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#31
by
Space Pete
on 29 Aug, 2010 18:05
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#32
by
dantdbv
on 29 Aug, 2010 23:18
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Latest update
Launch window: Aug 30 - Sep 17, 2010
Possible date, Launch platform to Bornholm: Tue Aug 31 (75%)
Possible launch date of HEAT-1X-Tycho Brahe: Thu Sep 02 (40%)
Delays have mostly been because of very windy weather for a couple of days.
A person connected to the project is posting pictures and updates here when he have time for it:
(External link. Caution! The use of language on this site can be offensive to some people. Visit at own risk).
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3271649 Until next time.
DanTDBV
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#33
by
dantdbv
on 30 Aug, 2010 09:24
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I realize that somethingawfull is to much to some people, hence the caution, but it has been the place where i have found the newest and most up to date information directly from the project.
Personally i would have hoped that the updates would come here, but that is the choise of the people connected to the project.
I do not hope that i have ruffled the feathers of to many people, because that was and is not my intent. I have so very little possibilities to offer anything back to this wonderfull place. That is why now that something new and exiting happens in little Denmark i have jumped on the chance to give something back.
Respectfully yours
DanTDBV, who is very exited about the Danish spaceprogram.
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#34
by
mr. mark
on 31 Aug, 2010 00:33
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Launch is getting close. Looks like they are ready!
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#35
by
Silmfeanor
on 31 Aug, 2010 11:16
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from their own website the rocket, launch platform and submarine are now on their way to the firing range, with a first launch date of 2 sept ( 40% chance according to themselves )
and I like that picture
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#36
by
kevin-rf
on 31 Aug, 2010 14:36
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and I like that picture
Tsk, Tsk, it shows ITAR restricted methods
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#37
by
Space Pete
on 31 Aug, 2010 22:27
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#38
by
Silmfeanor
on 02 Sep, 2010 12:30
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#39
by
mr. mark
on 02 Sep, 2010 16:25
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More like Austin Powers... Did you see the cap on the sub commander, now that's crazy. I'm expecting Mini Me to jump out of the submarine at any minute and climb aboard the rocket.
