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#340
by
Ben the Space Brit
on 22 Nov, 2010 20:09
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Here is a pic from my remote camera, I guess about 200 feet away.
Two hundred feet away from that? And it's still in one piece?!?
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#341
by
TimL
on 22 Nov, 2010 20:22
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So how far downrange do the outboard tanks come down? Do they have enough velocity to start burning up or do they splash down intact at several hundred mph, disintegrate and sink?
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#342
by
awalters
on 22 Nov, 2010 21:44
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Here is a pic from my remote camera, I guess about 200 feet away.
Two hundred feet away from that? And it's still in one piece?!?
Mine was fine, but one of the AP cameras was thrown against a fence. The tripod, but the camera was OK, Lucky since it was a Canon 1D.
It also blew out about 50 feet of the fence.
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#343
by
Lars_J
on 22 Nov, 2010 23:45
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How do you trigger the camera? Remotely, or by sound?
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#344
by
JohnFornaro
on 23 Nov, 2010 14:12
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maybe someone could photoshop Orion and LAS onto a few of these images...
That's a pretty cool suggestion. The exercise would be illuminating.
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#345
by
Skyrocket
on 23 Nov, 2010 14:44
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maybe someone could photoshop Orion and LAS onto a few of these images...
That's a pretty cool suggestion. The exercise would be illuminating.
Something like this? A quick try with awalters' photo.
best regards
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#346
by
TimL
on 23 Nov, 2010 14:53
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IMHO, that is exactly how the US should be focusing on bridging the GAP! Quick, call and tell your elected representatives to stop jeopardizing MSF with paper/pork rockets...
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#347
by
JohnFornaro
on 23 Nov, 2010 14:56
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Probably take a bit more time than that there PhotoShop exercise, but somebody ought to call Jim and get him started....
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#348
by
PahTo
on 23 Nov, 2010 14:58
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Right on! Well done, and yes, that's what I think many of us have in mind...
Something like this? A quick try with awalters' photo.
best regards
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#349
by
libs0n
on 23 Nov, 2010 20:12
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No, different tank sizes.
Common Core Booster.
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#350
by
Jim
on 23 Nov, 2010 20:19
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No, different tank sizes.
Common Core Booster.
The point was in reference to using an RD-180 on a CBC and the CBC tank volumes are wrong for RP-1/LOX.
A dual SSME CBC would out perform an RD-180 CCB.
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#351
by
iamlucky13
on 23 Nov, 2010 20:59
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How do you trigger the camera? Remotely, or by sound?
I've gathered that radio triggers aren't allowed. I suppose awalters can confirm.
Ben Cooper at some point described his usual setup being sound triggers combined with delay timers. It takes some understanding of the launch process to know when a trigger will go off, and to know how long to wait to get the rocket positioned where you want it.
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#352
by
Ben the Space Brit
on 24 Nov, 2010 10:42
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BBC News Online gives a fairly good overview of the launch
here.
A few interesting points (although it's possible that they're just Internet rumours conflated to fact). The NROL-32 is believed to be a COMINT platform. The spacecraft itself is the heaviest uncrewed launch from the US, beating the 7t of Terrestar-1. The 'Net rumours are the the vehicle may be intended to intercept communications on civil phone networks and will carry the largest antenna ever flown in orbit.
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#353
by
kevin-rf
on 24 Nov, 2010 13:31
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The spacecraft itself is the heaviest uncrewed launch from the US, beating the 7t of Terrestar-1.
I think that needs a qualifier...
I would bet that it is the heaviest payload to GSO (inclined GSO?). I suspect Skylab was heavier, and many Polar DOD payloads are heavier... Still, I doubt you would want to drop that thing on ones toes.
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#354
by
Jim
on 24 Nov, 2010 14:05
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The spacecraft itself is the heaviest uncrewed launch from the US, beating the 7t of Terrestar-1.
I think that needs a qualifier...
I would bet that it is the heaviest payload to GSO (inclined GSO?). I suspect Skylab was heavier, and many Polar DOD payloads are heavier... Still, I doubt you would want to drop that thing on ones toes.
Another qualifier, Terrestar-1 was injected into GTO
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#355
by
edkyle99
on 24 Nov, 2010 19:50
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The spacecraft itself is the heaviest uncrewed launch from the US, beating the 7t of Terrestar-1.
I think that needs a qualifier...
I would bet that it is the heaviest payload to GSO (inclined GSO?). I suspect Skylab was heavier, and many Polar DOD payloads are heavier... Still, I doubt you would want to drop that thing on ones toes.
Another qualifier, Terrestar-1 was injected into GTO
Since we (only speaking for those without clearance and a need to know) can't know how much the payload actually weighed, perhaps it is best to say that it "could have been" the heaviest payload ever injected into geosynchronous orbit (assuming that's where she went). The "could have been" based, of course, on the fact that nothing else currently out-lifts Delta 4 Heavy to that address.
- Ed Kyle
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#356
by
JosephB
on 28 Nov, 2010 18:31
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Another question,
Assuming the larger the antennae the better, how realistic is it for a BEO Orion to have a DoD mission to GSO to manually assemble an even larger NRO craft that can be serviced?
This of course assumes a NASA Orion exists.
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#357
by
Jim
on 28 Nov, 2010 22:54
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Another question,
Assuming the larger the antennae the better, how realistic is it for a BEO Orion to have a DoD mission to GSO to manually assemble an even larger NRO craft that can be serviced?
This of course assumes a NASA Orion exists.
Very unrealistic. The NRO doesn't want to deal with HSF
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#358
by
JosephB
on 04 Dec, 2010 22:16
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#359
by
robertross
on 04 Dec, 2010 23:06
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