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Offline Lars_J

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #400 on: 10/31/2010 12:50 am »
Guys, we need to get this thread back on topic and take the discussion to teh SpaceX Discussion thread...

http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=22769.msg653494

Another SpaceX music video posted:  http://spacex.com/multimedia/videos.php?id=54

It looks like the Dragon drop test put to music. 

Nice!!! There's also several new shots/angles in addition to the old footage.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #401 on: 10/31/2010 04:29 am »
It looks a lot like the chutes are stored in the ring outside the pressure vessel but just above the heat shield.

Hasn't that fact been established a long time ago?

A long time ago, Robotbeat. ;)
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #403 on: 11/02/2010 01:50 pm »
Any particular reason why the launch window opens 5 minutes before the hour and closes 5 minutes after the hour and not just a straight-up 3 hour window?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #404 on: 11/04/2010 01:49 am »
7 skydivers can exit a plane in 2-3 seconds. Even with this being more difficult in freefall, if you start jumping at 15000feet ( regularly considered safe jumping altitude ) that gives you quite a bit of time to get out.

Yes, but those skydivers are standing in an open doorway. They don't have to climb over each other and squeeze out of a pressure hatch after six months of zero gravity. In the Dragon you would have a difficult time just getting two people to the door at the same time. Much better to put your backup chute on the capsule. Dragon has three and only needs two for a safe landing. A single open chute would probably make for a survivable if not entirely healthy landing on water. Apollo 15 landed with only two good parachutes and the impact wasn't even severe enough to dislodge the Hassleblad camera that Jim Irwin was gripping between his knees at the time. That is a risk I would much rather take than any attempt at a bailout from a spinning, rapidly descending, crowded, capsule.

Plus a mostly sealed capsule that is designed to be seaworthy is going to be a lot safer then being in a small raft.
« Last Edit: 11/04/2010 01:51 am by Patchouli »

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #405 on: 11/04/2010 08:53 pm »
The launch moved to November 19 due to range conflict with Delta 4-Heavy.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #406 on: 11/04/2010 11:27 pm »
The slippage rate is decreasing.  SpaceX scheduling would make a good intro to basic calculus concepts.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #407 on: 11/04/2010 11:58 pm »
The launch moved to November 19 due to range conflict with Delta 4-Heavy.
Go baby go!!! My prediction was for the 19th. :)
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #408 on: 11/05/2010 12:02 am »
At times, it seems like SpaceX is following this formula with their scheduling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #409 on: 11/05/2010 12:08 am »
I don't care if it takes longer to get to launch so long as the mission is successful. 

If the first F9 launch was any indication, they'll be triple checking everything and then again.   I bet they're still a bit nervous about that first flight; whether they got lucky or whether they really do have all they're ducks in a row!
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #410 on: 11/05/2010 12:14 am »
At times, it seems like SpaceX is following this formula with their scheduling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise

Ha, very gooood!! Point to you!
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #411 on: 11/06/2010 02:04 am »
Space News is now (Nov  5) saying NET November 20.
What kind of wastrels would dump a perfectly good booster in the ocean after just one use?

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #412 on: 11/06/2010 09:10 am »

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #415 on: 11/08/2010 05:13 pm »
At times, it seems like SpaceX is following this formula with their scheduling:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Achilles_and_the_tortoise

Ha, very gooood!! Point to you!

We probably should only give him half a point, then the next time the schedule slips, he can have half the remaining difference to a full point, and then the next time the schedule slips, etc. When SpaceX launches he'll have accrued a full point.

The slips are being reported as range conflicts now. Hopefully that's an indicator everything else is on track, but also hopefully they'll make good use of the extra time to triple check everything and continue to rehearse.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #416 on: 11/08/2010 05:45 pm »
hopefully they'll make good use of the extra time to triple check everything and continue to rehearse.

Since Congress in its wisdom seems to think that commercial space is just SpaceX, we need SpaceX to provide some good optics.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #417 on: 11/08/2010 08:12 pm »
Im confused by all these range conflict slips.  Is F9 just low man on the totem pole and keeps getting deferred due to other vehicles, or is there something else at play with the schedule (thanksgiving, for example)?
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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #418 on: 11/08/2010 10:08 pm »
Im confused by all these range conflict slips.  Is F9 just low man on the totem pole and keeps getting deferred due to other vehicles, or is there something else at play with the schedule (thanksgiving, for example)?

It is first come, first serve wrt the range.  Space keeps wanting dates that other projects have already reserved, so I surmise.

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Re: COTS Demo 1
« Reply #419 on: 11/09/2010 12:38 am »
Im confused by all these range conflict slips.  Is F9 just low man on the totem pole and keeps getting deferred due to other vehicles, or is there something else at play with the schedule (thanksgiving, for example)?

It is first come, first serve wrt the range.  Space keeps wanting dates that other projects have already reserved, so I surmise.

Aren't they still waiting for FAA go?
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