Author Topic: SpaceX COTS Demo 1 Updates (Read 651041 times)

docmordrid · « **Reply #160 on:** 09/15/2010 06:13 pm »

Processed & cropped....

yg1968 · « **Reply #161 on:** 09/15/2010 06:16 pm »

Here is an image of Falcon 9 that I captured from KSC channel 12 at 1:14 PM (Eastern time):
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/video/

docmordrid · « **Reply #162 on:** 09/15/2010 06:42 pm »

Processing it brings out more vents....

(hope you guys don't mind my following up with these?)

Lars_J · « **Reply #163 on:** 09/15/2010 07:13 pm »

Those aren't vents... At least the top what lines on each side of the upper stage. Those are the upper 'arms' of the strongback in an open position, I think.

See image of the arms here: http://www.spacex.com/assets/img/20090105_strongbackfull.jpg

cuddihy · « **Reply #164 on:** 09/15/2010 08:45 pm »

Quote from: ugordan link=topic=22041.msg637102#msg637102 date=

Zombie in the sense it potentially has no "brain" yet. The hardware is there, all right, but as was pointed out time and time again, without software that hardware is useless.

As such any testing related to the launch vehicle itself - which is ahead in the learning curve over Dragon - is meaningless as a tool to predict a launch date.

Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?

R.Simko · « **Reply #165 on:** 09/15/2010 08:57 pm »

It's great that we have the zero, now if we were only fully utilizing the metric system.

mr. mark · « **Reply #166 on:** 09/15/2010 08:58 pm »

"Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?"

Total rumor and based only on speculation of several members here.

Nikola · « **Reply #167 on:** 09/15/2010 09:51 pm »

Is this live or not?

http://www.spacex.com/webcast.php

(my apologies if it was already discussed, but I haven't been some time on the forum...)

ugordan · « **Reply #168 on:** 09/15/2010 10:01 pm »

Quote from: cuddihy on 09/15/2010 08:45 pm

Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?

A while back it was reported here by none other than Chris Bergin that SpaceX were "struggling" with software both for F9 and Dragon, though it was in a context of some other discussion.

ugordan · « **Reply #169 on:** 09/15/2010 10:02 pm »

Quote from: Nikola on 09/15/2010 09:51 pm

Is this live or not?

It sure as heck *looks* live.

mrhuggy · « **Reply #170 on:** 09/15/2010 10:15 pm »

Quote from: ugordan on 09/15/2010 10:02 pm

Quote from: Nikola on 09/15/2010 09:51 pm
Is this live or not?

It sure as heck *looks* live.

The clouds look like the match up with nasa's webcams.

I wonder if we are going to have a hotfire very soon. The cameras look to be setup for that and if so a launch on the original date of the 23rd of September?

ugordan · « **Reply #171 on:** 09/15/2010 10:21 pm »

Quote from: mrhuggy on 09/15/2010 10:15 pm

I wonder if we are going to have a hotfire very soon.

The vehicle's not iced over, not venting, the erector's not retracted, they're talking about pad safing with vehicles seen driving to the hangar so I'm gonna go with... no.

mmeijeri · « **Reply #172 on:** 09/15/2010 10:23 pm »

Quote from: cuddihy on 09/15/2010 08:45 pm

Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?

Well, rank speculation combined with the fact that nearly all software anywhere in the world tends to be late...

mrhuggy · « **Reply #173 on:** 09/15/2010 10:51 pm »

What I meant by very soon wasnt today but maybe later this week. Saying that no confirmed tanking tests yet, well as far as know. And they would also tell everyone before hand.

Jim · « **Reply #174 on:** 09/16/2010 02:16 am »

Quote from: mr. mark on 09/15/2010 08:58 pm

"Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?"

Total rumor and based only on speculation of several members here.

Incorrect. There are several members with insight.

Antares · « **Reply #175 on:** 09/16/2010 05:19 am »

Quote from: mrhuggy on 09/15/2010 10:51 pm

And they would also tell everyone before hand.

Funniest thing I've read this month. Do you have any rationale for that?

TheFallen · « **Reply #176 on:** 09/16/2010 05:41 am »

Quote from: mrhuggy on 09/15/2010 10:51 pm

What I meant by very soon wasnt today but maybe later this week.

I figured that's what you meant mrhuggy. Would've pointed that out if you didn't.

Though I'm guessing October 23rd is the most likely launch date.

yg1968 · « **Reply #177 on:** 09/16/2010 01:22 pm »

Quote from: Jim on 09/16/2010 02:16 am

Quote from: mr. mark on 09/15/2010 08:58 pm
"Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?"

Total rumor and based only on speculation of several members here.

Incorrect. There are several members with insight.

Why would SpaceX launch a zombie spacecraft? If they are trying to convince NASA to combine COTS Demo 2 and 3, this would be the wrong approach. SpaceX also said that they were in no hurry to launch COTS Demo 1. So I doubt that they would launch a zombie (i.e. software deficient) spacecraft.

Jim · « **Reply #178 on:** 09/16/2010 01:28 pm »

Quote from: yg1968 on 09/16/2010 01:22 pm

Quote from: Jim on 09/16/2010 02:16 am
Quote from: mr. mark on 09/15/2010 08:58 pm
"Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?"

Total rumor and based only on speculation of several members here.

Incorrect. There are several members with insight.

Why would SpaceX launch a zombie spacecraft? If they are trying to convince NASA to combine COTS Demo 2 and 3, this would be the wrong approach. SpaceX also said that they were in no hurry to launch COTS Demo 1. So I doubt that they would launch a zombie (i.e. software deficient) spacecraft.

The point is readiness and launch date. Nothing was said about launching a zombie spacecraft

yg1968 · « **Reply #179 on:** 09/16/2010 02:26 pm »

Quote from: Jim on 09/16/2010 01:28 pm

Quote from: yg1968 on 09/16/2010 01:22 pm
Quote from: Jim on 09/16/2010 02:16 am
Quote from: mr. mark on 09/15/2010 08:58 pm
"Is this rumor that the software is not ready based on anything but rank speculation?"

Total rumor and based only on speculation of several members here.

Incorrect. There are several members with insight.

Why would SpaceX launch a zombie spacecraft? If they are trying to convince NASA to combine COTS Demo 2 and 3, this would be the wrong approach. SpaceX also said that they were in no hurry to launch COTS Demo 1. So I doubt that they would launch a zombie (i.e. software deficient) spacecraft.

The point is readiness and launch date. Nothing was said about launching a zombie spacecraft

That makes a lot of sense. Your point being that they are not launching soon despite the recent tests. I think that Elon Musk also made the same point that the readiness of Dragon (not Falcon 9) will be setting the launch date of COTS Demo 1.