Good job spaceX. Is that 10 launches?
Quote from: kevin-rf on 06/16/2010 12:30 pmGood job spaceX. Is that 10 launches? 2 launches per plane of six each. If it's the same as the present configuration, 11 operational and one spare each. Just as someone predicted a few pages back.
Iridium is also in discussions with, and expects to contract with, at least one additional launch services provider.
Quote from: Nomadd on 06/16/2010 12:38 pmQuote from: kevin-rf on 06/16/2010 12:30 pmGood job spaceX. Is that 10 launches? 2 launches per plane of six each. If it's the same as the present configuration, 11 operational and one spare each. Just as someone predicted a few pages back.From the presser:QuoteIridium is also in discussions with, and expects to contract with, at least one additional launch services provider.Means they are not planning on getting the "whole" contract, and you are assuming they can lift 6 birds per launch. The first time arround Delta II lifted 5 per launch, Proton 7 per launch, and Long March lifted 2 per launch.So how many launches and how many can they lift in a shot? We don't know yet, but at "current" spaceX without discount published prices that is 10 flights.
The contract is for 2015-2017. SpaceX will have negotiated an "industry inflation adjustment". So I highly doubt the 10 flight number, it will be more like 8 if not less launches. IMO only of course.
The latest contract, with Iridium Communications Inc. of McLean, Va., could include eight to nine launches in order to take 72 telecommunication satellites into space from 2015 to 2017, said Tim Farrar, president of consulting and research firm Telecom, Media & Finance Associates.
We don't know yet, but at "current" spaceX without discount published prices that is 10 flights.
1. The agreement contemplates multiple launches on SpaceX’s Falcon 9 rocket, with up to nine satellites on each launch, 32. and has a maximum value of approximately $492 million.
Hmm, they haven't got the funding yet. Not quite the breakthrough I thought it was.
There apparently is/was a SpaceX press conference on the contract and Rand Simberg is posting notes: http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=27574
Quote from: ugordan on 06/16/2010 05:14 pmThere apparently is/was a SpaceX press conference on the contract and Rand Simberg is posting notes: http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=27574Not sure if this should be discussed in another thread but that conference has some very interesting quotes such as the one saying (paraphrased):"The one question that I didn’t capture was mine. I asked him if they knew yet why the first stage didn’t survive entry, or if they would have to wait for another flight to get better data (because they didn’t get the microwave imaging data they wanted). He said that they still didn’t know, and might not figure it out until they try again. I followed up, asking if he could conceive of a time that they might just give up on it, and pull the recovery systems out to give them more payload. I was surprised at the vehemence of his answer (paraphrasing): “We will never give up! Never! Reusability is one of the most important goals. If we become the biggest launch company in the world, making money hand over fist, but we’re still not reusable, I will consider us to have failed.” I told him that I was very gratified to hear that, because I like reusability."Very cool to hear that.
Quote from: AdamH on 06/16/2010 06:13 pmQuote from: ugordan on 06/16/2010 05:14 pmThere apparently is/was a SpaceX press conference on the contract and Rand Simberg is posting notes: http://www.transterrestrial.com/?p=27574Not sure if this should be discussed in another thread but that conference has some very interesting quotes such as the one saying (paraphrased):"The one question that I didn’t capture was mine. I asked him if they knew yet why the first stage didn’t survive entry, or if they would have to wait for another flight to get better data (because they didn’t get the microwave imaging data they wanted). He said that they still didn’t know, and might not figure it out until they try again. I followed up, asking if he could conceive of a time that they might just give up on it, and pull the recovery systems out to give them more payload. I was surprised at the vehemence of his answer (paraphrasing): “We will never give up! Never! Reusability is one of the most important goals. If we become the biggest launch company in the world, making money hand over fist, but we’re still not reusable, I will consider us to have failed.” I told him that I was very gratified to hear that, because I like reusability."Very cool to hear that. 20+ attempts should be fun to chat about on the forums over the next few years."Falcon 9 1st stage recover system mark 17 was tested today, they have now added wings, flaps, and a vodoo tasiman to try to recover the stage."
So who "lost" this business then?
(though if they can pull off reusability very simply, then even 10 flights a year will make reusability make sense, a flight rate which they may reach within a decade... though Jim disagrees!).