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#220
by
FutureSpaceTourist
on 27 Jun, 2017 10:20
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Iridium NEXT-2 article says:
The next launch from Vandenberg is currently targeting 22 July with the Republic of China’s FORMOSAT-5 spacecraft
But is that just a previously announced NET for which we're awaiting confirmation?
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#221
by
Chris Bergin
on 27 Jun, 2017 13:13
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Updated it via the L2 schedules. August 24 NET. Former Iridium NEXT-3 slot - which is now in September.
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#222
by
gongora
on 28 Jun, 2017 15:18
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FCC permit application for mission 1344, which I'm guessing is Formosat-5.
This STA is necessary to authorize launch vehicle communications for SpaceX Mission 1344, a commercial launch from SLC-4E, Vandenberg Air Force Base.
First Stage Recovery permit application:
This STA covers the experimental first-stage recovery operation, following a Falcon 9 launch from Vandenberg Air Force Base. This request is limited to the brief command uplink from an autonomous droneship to the launch vehicle after landing.
Ship Coordinates: North 31 39 58 West 121 39 43
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#223
by
baltrum
on 28 Jun, 2017 16:08
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Why would they go for ASDS with such a light satellite (Formosat-5 is around half a ton)?
Are they going to include some other sats?
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#224
by
ZachS09
on 28 Jun, 2017 18:37
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Why would they go for ASDS with such a light satellite (Formosat-5 is around half a ton)?
Are they going to include some other sats?
Because I don't think Falcon 9 is certified to do RTLS flights in Vandenberg yet.
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#225
by
IanThePineapple
on 28 Jun, 2017 18:43
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Is it possible that they can get certification by August/September?
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#226
by
docmordrid
on 28 Jun, 2017 20:42
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IIRC, it has to do with a possible failing RTLS aborting into the offshore Vandenberg State Marine Reserve .
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#227
by
Lar
on 28 Jun, 2017 21:46
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IIRC, it has to do with a possible failing RTLS aborting into the offshore Vandenberg State Marine Reserve .
Does that mean no RTLS ever? The marine reserve presumably isn't going anywhere.
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#228
by
gongora
on 30 Jun, 2017 03:15
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Several Taiwanese news sites recently posted similar articles about Formosat-5. They list the launch date as August 25, but I don't know if that is just the UTC time for a late launch on August 24 local time. I won't make a change on the manifest until I get clarity on that issue.
[Taipei Times] First Taiwanese satellite to be launched Aug. 25The 450kg Formosat-5 is the first project in which the NSPO was fully responsible for all engineering, including payload, imaging sensors and ground control systems.
The Formosat-5 is to carry the first locally made optical remote sensing instrument equipped with the world’s first space-grade metal oxide semiconductor image sensor, which the organization developed in cooperation with the nation’s electronics and semiconductor industries.
The satellite cost about NT$5.65 billion (US$186 million) to make and is to embark on a five-year observation mission around the globe
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SpaceX is contractually required to pay 1.25 percent of the contract amount — about NT$700 million — for every month’s delay, Chang said, adding that the company is expected to pay 10 percent in compensation.
So 10% of US$23M contract would be about $2.3M penalty.
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#229
by
Lar
on 30 Jun, 2017 04:03
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I was trying to figure out the contract value... if 1.25% is 700M (or .7B) NT$ then isn't the contract about 56B NT$
Google tells me that 1 New Taiwan Dollar equals 0.033 US Dollar ... I get crazy numbers. but not 23M
Is it possible they have to pay 1.25% of the cost of satellite, not of the launch contract?
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#230
by
gongora
on 30 Jun, 2017 04:16
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I was trying to figure out the contract value... if 1.25% is 700M (or .7B) NT$ then isn't the contract about 56B NT$
Google tells me that 1 New Taiwan Dollar equals 0.033 US Dollar ... I get crazy numbers. but not 23M
Is it possible they have to pay 1.25% of the cost of satellite, not of the launch contract?
The way I interpreted it to get sensible numbers is 700M NT$ was the total contract value. Wasn't this a Falcon 1 contract?
Also for the date issue, it's probably August 25th in Taiwan when it launches.
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#231
by
SmallKing
on 30 Jun, 2017 04:48
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#232
by
Galactic Penguin SST
on 30 Jun, 2017 04:55
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#233
by
titusou
on 03 Jul, 2017 15:40
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#234
by
IanThePineapple
on 03 Jul, 2017 16:03
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My space OCD is going nuts, they show F9 1.0 pics, then pics of LC-40, even though they're launching on a F9 FT/B4 from Vandy
It's like "Space X"
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#235
by
dmc6960
on 03 Jul, 2017 16:33
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My space OCD is going nuts, they show F9 1.0 pics, then pics of LC-40, even though they're launching on a F9 FT/B4 from Vandy
It's like "Space X"
Its worse than that, other than the two "liftoff" photos which are Falcon 9 1.0, the other images are from the Falcon 1 days, and originally represented as such.
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#236
by
IanThePineapple
on 03 Jul, 2017 16:40
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My space OCD is going nuts, they show F9 1.0 pics, then pics of LC-40, even though they're launching on a F9 FT/B4 from Vandy
It's like "Space X"
Its worse than that, other than the two "liftoff" photos which are Falcon 9 1.0, the other images are from the Falcon 1 days, and originally represented as such.
Oh, I thought those were just poorly-made pics of a Falcon 9.
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#237
by
zubenelgenubi
on 03 Jul, 2017 17:28
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The National Space Organization PR staff needs to study up on NSF, then apply the knowledge gained to their press releases!
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#238
by
ZachS09
on 03 Jul, 2017 18:06
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If titusou's "launch profile" is correct, then the ASDS would have to be further south. That's because the MECO time is listed as T+2:32.
Previous Falcon 9 v1.2 launches from Vandenberg, that ended up on the drone ship, shut down the booster at T+2:24.
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#239
by
zubenelgenubi
on 03 Jul, 2017 20:41
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If titusou's "launch profile" is correct, then the ASDS would have to be further south. That's because the MECO time is listed as T+2:32.
Previous Falcon 9 v1.2 launches from Vandenberg, that ended up on the drone ship, shut down the booster at T+2:24.
FORMOSAT 5 is listed as only massing 525 kg, less than 1/10th of the 10x Iridium Next satellites + payload dispenser. I suspect (don't know--NSF experts, correct me if I'm wrong) that could change the launch timeline and trajectory of the first stage, both for boost to MECO and barge recovery.
I suppose we'll learn more on these matters when the Notices to Airmen and Mariners are released.
