Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Formosat-5 : SLC-4E Vandenberg : Aug 24, 2017 : DISCUSSION (Read 293269 times)

Rik ISS-fan · « **Reply #140 on:** 01/13/2017 07:18 pm »

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oldAtlas_Eguy · « **Reply #141 on:** 01/14/2017 07:05 pm »

Do we have all the sats at VAFB or are they still to be shipped. I would not expect launch until 30 days after all of them are integrated into the SHERPA.

There is no other launches for VAFB until the Iridium Next Flt 2 at NET April 15.

Launch of Formosat-5 could be as late as 15 March without any impacts at all on the next Iridium launch.

gongora · « **Reply #142 on:** 01/14/2017 07:28 pm »

The sats on SHERPA are integrated before it is shipped to Vandenberg.

oldAtlas_Eguy · « **Reply #143 on:** 01/14/2017 08:33 pm »

Quote from: gongora on 01/14/2017 07:28 pm

The sats on SHERPA are integrated before it is shipped to Vandenberg.

Thanks.
So SpaceX treats the SHERPA as if it was a single sat payload in their handling and processing flow. So think of what other payload arrivals at launch site time period before launch would be.

So do we have any indication of when SI is planning to ship the SHERPA to VAFB?

wsl2005 · « **Reply #144 on:** 01/19/2017 06:40 am »

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FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #145 on:** 01/19/2017 06:54 am »

NASA Canyval-X fact sheet attached.

DOCinCT · « **Reply #146 on:** 01/19/2017 01:17 pm »

Quote from: wsl2005 on 01/19/2017 06:40 am

Canyval-X

Don't understand what this has to do with Formosat5/SHERPA???

gongora · « **Reply #147 on:** 01/19/2017 01:43 pm »

Quote from: DOCinCT on 01/19/2017 01:17 pm

Quote from: wsl2005 on 01/19/2017 06:40 am
Canyval-X
Don't understand what this has to do with Formosat5/SHERPA???

It's one of the cubesats on SHERPA.

IanThePineapple · « **Reply #148 on:** 01/29/2017 11:20 pm »

I'm assuming a late summer/early winter Formosat launch, it's almost on FH-levels of delays.

mtakala24 · « **Reply #149 on:** 01/30/2017 11:04 am »

You mean that it won't be the next SpaceX launch from Vandenberg? Is there any documentation to support your assumption?

shooter6947 · « **Reply #150 on:** 01/31/2017 12:06 am »

With all of the LC-39A and LC-40 delays back East, why doesn't SpaceX send some cores to their working pad LC-4E out West and launch the Sherpa mission sooner rather than later? I realize that they've gotta wait 90 days for more Iridium launches, but might as well work through the polar orbit backlog, too...

Herb Schaltegger · « **Reply #151 on:** 01/31/2017 01:23 am »

Quote from: shooter6947 on 01/31/2017 12:06 am

With all of the LC-39A and LC-40 delays back East, why doesn't SpaceX send some cores to their working pad LC-4E out West and launch the Sherpa mission sooner rather than later? I realize that they've gotta wait 90 days for more Iridium launches, but might as well work through the polar orbit backlog, too...

Because orbital launches require an active commercial launch license with the FAA, an active license with the FCC for TT&C (tracking, telemetry and control), clearance and coordination with the launch range operator, and detailed mission planning and coordination with the customer, launch crews, and mission management teams. You can't just swap these things around like running a bus route.

envy887 · « **Reply #152 on:** 01/31/2017 01:34 am »

Are the payloads ready for this launch?

manoweb · « **Reply #153 on:** 01/31/2017 02:58 am »

Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 01/31/2017 01:23 am

Because orbital launches require an active commercial launch license with the FAA, an active license with the FCC for TT&C (tracking, telemetry and control), clearance and coordination with the launch range operator, and detailed mission planning and coordination with the customer, launch crews, and mission management teams. You can't just swap these things around like running a bus route.

Ironically, today they just swapped around flights on LC-39A (Echostar23 with Dragon10), so I would be very surprised if the government red tape is really the reason for backlog. I think SpaceX attorney team is well versed in getting the necessary FCC licenses...

I think the real reason is more like, there is a big overlap of personnel that is required for a polar launches from Vandenberg and the one that needs to work on LC39A, LC40, Boca Chica, etc...

old_sellsword · « **Reply #154 on:** 01/31/2017 03:27 am »

Quote from: manoweb on 01/31/2017 02:58 am

Quote from: Herb Schaltegger on 01/31/2017 01:23 am
Because orbital launches require an active commercial launch license with the FAA, an active license with the FCC for TT&C (tracking, telemetry and control), clearance and coordination with the launch range operator, and detailed mission planning and coordination with the customer, launch crews, and mission management teams. You can't just swap these things around like running a bus route.

Ironically, today they just swapped around flights on LC-39A (Echostar23 with Dragon10), so I would be very surprised if the government red tape is really the reason for backlog. I think SpaceX attorney team is well versed in getting the necessary FCC licenses...

I think the real reason is more like, there is a big overlap of personnel that is required for a polar launches from Vandenberg and the one that needs to work on LC39A, LC40, Boca Chica, etc...

The red tape was already done away with for those two missions. Really all they did was push EchoStar 23 back, which happens quite frequently.

cscott · « **Reply #155 on:** 01/31/2017 04:23 am »

L2 has some info re: why no Vandenberg launches right now: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41611.msg1637001.msg#1637001

"Red tape." More or less.

gongora · « **Reply #156 on:** 02/03/2017 04:10 pm »

Another update on the payloads for this mission:

Quote from: Skyrocket on 02/03/2017 11:43 am

The UAE's Nayiv-1 cubesat has been moved from the Falcon-9/FORMOSAT-5/SHERPA launch to the PSLV C37 launch

WHAP · « **Reply #157 on:** 02/06/2017 09:49 pm »

Quote from: cscott on 01/31/2017 04:23 am

L2 has some info re: why no Vandenberg launches right now: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41611.msg1637001.msg#1637001

"Red tape." More or less.

Can you define "right now"? There are Atlas and Delta launches from VAFB planned for March, June, and October.

old_sellsword · « **Reply #158 on:** 02/06/2017 10:14 pm »

Quote from: WHAP on 02/06/2017 09:49 pm

Quote from: cscott on 01/31/2017 04:23 am
L2 has some info re: why no Vandenberg launches right now: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=41611.msg1637001.msg#1637001

"Red tape." More or less.

Can you define "right now"? There are Atlas and Delta launches from VAFB planned for March, June, and October.

SpaceX-specific red tape.

IanThePineapple · « **Reply #159 on:** 02/06/2017 10:30 pm »

Just hopped onto this thread, why wasn't FORMOSAT/SHERPA launched in early Summer 2016 like planned, and why does it keep getting delayed? Will it launch anytime soon?