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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #840 on: 06/04/2010 09:32 pm »
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #841 on: 06/04/2010 09:32 pm »
Spacevidcast has the telecon live:

http://www.spacevidcast.com/

Thanks. While I have no problem posting Jeff Foust's tweets, I have to go out and mow the lawn. Unfortunately my Dad does not see SpaceX as a reason for this college kid to skip out on yard work.  ;D

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #842 on: 06/04/2010 09:37 pm »
2nd F9 is 100% done ( Waiting in hutchinson state to be transferred :) )
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #843 on: 06/04/2010 09:37 pm »
Space-Track elements imply 235 x 276 km x 34.5 deg. International Designation 2010-026A. Way to go, SpaceX!

That is more than 1% difference from 250km circular. So who is right?

On an energy basis, the error is 2.2%, ignoring inclination error.

The semi-major axis is also the equivalent circular radius, which also is the simple average of the perigee and apogee. So

(235+276)/2 = 255.5

(255.5-250) / 250 = 0.022 = 2.2%

Close enough for government work, right?

If you also account for inclination error, I would suppose that on an energy basis the error could be less than 1%, because it requires a lot of dV to shift planes.

(This is defining the error on the basis of what it would require to modify the orbit to match the targetl parameters, as opposed to an actual flight performance measure.)

WTG SpaceX! The future just got a little brighter.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #844 on: 06/04/2010 09:38 pm »
Investment so far in F1 and F9 ~400 mil. 150-200 Mil on Dragon itself. These are expenditure numbers.
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #845 on: 06/04/2010 09:46 pm »
Any news whatsoever on recovery of the first stage?

I'm stroked that the launch went so smooth, they made it look so deceptively easy!

But I still have some reservations. For example the revolutionary part will be providing the rocket significantly cheaper, but the cost have creeped up steadily over the year, I'm cautiously hopeful :)

Anybody know anything about the next launch wheter it's a f1e or f9?

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #846 on: 06/04/2010 09:47 pm »
Musk just said he wants the Dragon to eventually land like the Lunar  lander did, like (Heinlein says) a rocket should! ;)
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #847 on: 06/04/2010 09:48 pm »
Any news whatsoever on recovery of the first stage?

I'm stroked that the launch went so smooth, they made it look so deceptively easy!

But I still have some reservations. For example the revolutionary part will be providing the rocket significantly cheaper, but the cost have creeped up steadily over the year, I'm cautiously hopeful :)

Anybody know anything about the next launch wheter it's a f1e or f9?

Scroll up.  Everything you've asked is answered in this thread just before your post.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #848 on: 06/04/2010 09:48 pm »
Musk says the long-term plan is to use the integrated abort engine system on Dragon Crew for propulsive soft landings on dry ground.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #849 on: 06/04/2010 09:49 pm »
Musk says the long-term plan is to use the integrated abort engine system on Dragon Crew for propulsive soft landings on dry ground.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #850 on: 06/04/2010 09:49 pm »
Any news whatsoever on recovery of the first stage?

It didn't make it, broke up during reentry.

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Anybody know anything about the next launch wheter it's a f1e or f9?

A F9, First COTS demo flight.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #851 on: 06/04/2010 09:51 pm »
Did Elon just say SpaceX and NASA are in negotiations for a joint Super-Heavy Lifter project?

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #852 on: 06/04/2010 09:51 pm »
As great as a 6 seat vehicle capable of reaching the moon & launched by a solid rocket would have been, today was a great day.  All we need is a capsule & human rating but the rocket did the job.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #853 on: 06/04/2010 09:51 pm »
Did Elon just say SpaceX and NASA are in negotiations for a joint Super-Heavy Lifter project?

Yep

"Musk says he's in initial discussions with NASA on development of "super heavy lift" vehicle." - Jeff Foust
« Last Edit: 06/04/2010 09:52 pm by Beckett »

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #854 on: 06/04/2010 09:51 pm »
Hutchison is just pointing out that the argument for Shuttle extension is not affected by this success.  Politically speaking, it had to be said.  Even if no further schedule slips occur in the commercial supply effort, a Shuttle extension is still the only way to guarantee proper support of the ISS in the near term.

Very pleased to see that the first flight went so well.  I expected it, considering their experience with Falcon 1, but there's always the worry that some crucial detail has been overlooked...

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #855 on: 06/04/2010 09:51 pm »
In talks with NASA for a Super HLV. Notes the Shuttle pads belong to a Super HLV or vehicles like Shuttle, as opposed to a F9.
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #856 on: 06/04/2010 09:52 pm »
During the teleconference, Elon Musk, in response to a question from Irene Klotz, just noted that there were ~150 SpaceX personnel at the launch site
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #857 on: 06/04/2010 09:52 pm »
Hutchison is just pointing out that the argument for Shuttle extension is not affected by this success.

She's absolutely correct. When the 2015 extension was discussed, CRS/COTS was not going to be affected.
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #858 on: 06/04/2010 09:53 pm »
Did Elon just say SpaceX and NASA are in negotiations for a joint Super-Heavy Lifter project?

Hmm... Falcon 99 ?  ;D

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #859 on: 06/04/2010 09:54 pm »
Musk: expect to have 1200-1300 employees by end of year, ~1800 employees by end of next year, with most new employment in Texas and Florida
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