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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #120 on: 06/04/2010 03:43 pm »
I'm sure it is here somewhere, but what is the FTS signal?

FTS=Flight Termination System - in case something goes wrong they can send a signal to destroy the vehicle.
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #121 on: 06/04/2010 03:44 pm »
I'm sure it is here somewhere, but what is the FTS signal?
I think it's the antenna they use to blow up the rocket if there's trouble.  Flight Termination. 
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #122 on: 06/04/2010 03:44 pm »
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But if its a technical problem and the FTS isn't producing a strong enough signal, I'd be surprised if the range lets them go without fixing it.

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Neither would SpaceX want to necessarily launch, either. If the signal is lost, rocket blows up, correct?
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #123 on: 06/04/2010 03:45 pm »
If there is a specific LOS issue regarding the strongback now in between the transmitter and receiver, they might still be able to get permission to proceed, because the issue would be expected to go away the minute the vehicle gets off the ground.

But if its a technical problem and the FTS isn't producing a strong enough signal, I'd be surprised if the range lets them go without fixing it.

Ross.

I would imagine that is what the range and SpaceX are looking at right now

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #124 on: 06/04/2010 03:45 pm »
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #125 on: 06/04/2010 03:49 pm »
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But if its a technical problem and the FTS isn't producing a strong enough signal, I'd be surprised if the range lets them go without fixing it.

Ross.
Neither would SpaceX want to necessarily launch, either. If the signal is lost, rocket blows up, correct?

That would be a rather hazardous FTS system and lead to some unexpected destructions on pad for sure... no, you sufficient FTS signal strength to send the flight termination command.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #126 on: 06/04/2010 03:50 pm »
Neither would SpaceX want to necessarily launch, either. If the signal is lost, rocket blows up, correct?

No. If the signal is lost, the rocket can't be destroyed.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #127 on: 06/04/2010 03:50 pm »
I can just imagine some SpaceX engineers kicking themselves over this weak FTS signal issue. In hindsight it'll probably seem such an obvious issue. Hopefully they can mitigate it during this launch window!
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #128 on: 06/04/2010 03:51 pm »
What if it's not SpaceX's fault?
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #129 on: 06/04/2010 03:52 pm »
Neither would SpaceX want to necessarily launch, either. If the signal is lost, rocket blows up, correct?

No. If the signal is lost, the rocket can't be destroyed.
Okay, that's good. Good for the rocket, at least! (Maybe not so good for everyone else if the rocket goes off somewhere...)
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #130 on: 06/04/2010 03:53 pm »
I can just imagine some SpaceX engineers kicking themselves over this weak FTS signal issue. In hindsight it'll probably seem such an obvious issue. Hopefully they can mitigate it during this launch window!

This seems like an item that would be tested easily prior to the countdown, no?  I sort of assumed it was a new issue that just came up.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #131 on: 06/04/2010 03:53 pm »
SpaceX thanks us for our continued patience... :D
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #132 on: 06/04/2010 03:53 pm »
I've heard the problem is with one of the range's FTS transmitters, but that's not official.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #133 on: 06/04/2010 03:55 pm »
If the strongback is interfering with the FTS transciever, they need to put one of those coat-hangers-and-Reynolds Wrap-rabbit ears on it.
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #134 on: 06/04/2010 03:55 pm »
Okay, that's good. Good for the rocket, at least! (Maybe not so good for everyone else if the rocket goes off somewhere...)

If the rocket is off course, then it is already a bad day for SpaceX
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #135 on: 06/04/2010 03:57 pm »
What if it's not SpaceX's fault?

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #136 on: 06/04/2010 03:58 pm »
Verification of this link is the responsibility of the LV.

Even if the problem is with the Range's transmitter? Wow.

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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #137 on: 06/04/2010 04:00 pm »
If that's the case, then I would agree it's not a SpaceX issue.  But if the problem is, as was previously mentioned, that it's the current configuration (strongback in the launch position), that isn't necessarily a transmitter "problem".
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #138 on: 06/04/2010 04:00 pm »
"FST signal", huh?  ;D
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Re: LIVE: Falcon 9 Flight 1 Maiden Flight - June 4, 2010
« Reply #139 on: 06/04/2010 04:01 pm »
Something about a sport fisherman in the area, also.
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