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#260
by
psloss
on 09 May, 2011 20:03
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Earlier, the CBS website reported a Beta angle cutout from Aug 1st to Aug 15th. Is that still valid?
More or less -- it would be in that timeframe.
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#261
by
stuart_wildcat
on 09 May, 2011 23:30
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Per Mike Moses, STS-135 is now slipping to the second week of July. No new launch date yet, however.
To add (hopefully), they will wait until after the 134 launch to roll over from OPF-1 to the VAB, but looking like 1-2 days after the launch for that.
They are bookkeeping 14 days to turn the launch pad around before it would be ready for the STS-135 vehicle rollout from the VAB to the pad, but then they may need to deconflict the 134 landing and the 135 rollout.
Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
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#262
by
Eksath
on 10 May, 2011 16:21
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
If you are planning on using the VC tour to catch rollover just be aware that the odds are stacked against you.
1. Rollover usually starts very early in the morning (7amish) as they try to take advantage of the stable morning weather. Visitor center tours start at 10 or 11am.
2. At normal pace, the rollover takes max 35-45 mins. They may stop for pics hence it might take an hour or two longer. These are for staff pics.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
a lot of variables. Just my 2 cents. ;-)
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#263
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 10 May, 2011 19:15
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Earlier, the CBS website reported a Beta angle cutout from Aug 1st to Aug 15th. Is that still valid?
More or less -- it would be in that timeframe.
Current dates from info on L2 have the Beta Angle from July 31 to August 14 -- but as we've seen in the past, this always changes and fluctuates as we get closer to the actual dates.
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#264
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ChrisGebhardt
on 10 May, 2011 19:16
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006

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#265
by
Eksath
on 10 May, 2011 19:24
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006
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You are correct. I always get the two mixed up as they sit side by side with one access corridor for staff/visitors. I just turn left or right at the badge gate depending on which orbiter. ;-)
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#266
by
DaveS
on 10 May, 2011 20:07
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006
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2003 actually. This was the OPF assignments when Columbia was lost. Well, OV-104 was actually in VAB HB3 at the time being prepared for rollout but following the loss of Columbia, OV-104 was rolled around from HB3 to HB1, destacked and returned to OPF1 to undergo modifications and reconfiguration to support whatever mission she would be assigned to following the accident,. which turned out to be STS-121.
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#267
by
ChrisGebhardt
on 10 May, 2011 20:24
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006
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2003 actually. This was the OPF assignments when Columbia was lost. Well, OV-104 was actually in VAB HB3 at the time being prepared for rollout but following the loss of Columbia, OV-104 was rolled around from HB3 to HB1, destacked and returned to OPF1 to undergo modifications and reconfiguration to support whatever mission she would be assigned to following the accident,. which turned out to be STS-121.
STS-114
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#268
by
Thorny
on 10 May, 2011 20:27
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2003 actually. This was the OPF assignments when Columbia was lost. Well, OV-104 was actually in VAB HB3 at the time being prepared for rollout but following the loss of Columbia, OV-104 was rolled around from HB3 to HB1, destacked and returned to OPF1 to undergo modifications and reconfiguration to support whatever mission she would be assigned to following the accident,. which turned out to be STS-121.
STS-115. STS-121 was Discovery's second post-107 RTF.
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#269
by
DaveS
on 10 May, 2011 20:34
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Perfect trip for few days after launch - watch SRB recovery ships come through the locks with the STS-134 SRBs and then go over to VC for a glimpse of the STS-135 rollover. Cool! Hope it works out like that.
3. The OPF#2 to VAB roadway is a direct shot and it not near the public route. You may be able to catch glimpse for the vicinity of the upclose tour VAB spot or from a moving bus on its way or back from the pad viewing spot.
To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006
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2003 actually. This was the OPF assignments when Columbia was lost. Well, OV-104 was actually in VAB HB3 at the time being prepared for rollout but following the loss of Columbia, OV-104 was rolled around from HB3 to HB1, destacked and returned to OPF1 to undergo modifications and reconfiguration to support whatever mission she would be assigned to following the accident,. which turned out to be STS-121.
STS-114 
True but only up to a certain point. When they decided to fix up a problem with the planetary gears in the rudder/speedbrake on the all the vehicles, STS-114 was given to the newly OMM'ed Discovery leaving Atlantis with two back-to-back missions, STS-121 and STS-115.
Following the LH2 PAL ramp foam loss during the STS-114 ascent, STS-121 was given to Discovery easing the workload and pressure on getting Atlantis ready for STS-115 following STS-121.
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#270
by
psloss
on 10 May, 2011 21:20
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To clarify this statement, Atlantis is in OPF-1 -- has been since at least 2006
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2003 actually. This was the OPF assignments when Columbia was lost.
Those assignments probably didn't become "persistent" until some time after Columbia was lost. Discovery was in OMDP in OPF-3, "bumping" Columbia from there the previous August; at the time of STS-107, the other three vehicles were rotating between OPF-1, OPF-2, and VAB HB-4.
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#271
by
Chris Bergin
on 11 May, 2011 00:49
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#272
by
ShuttleShel
on 11 May, 2011 01:00
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#273
by
nathan.moeller
on 11 May, 2011 01:06
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Processing and scheduling update via L2 for STS-135:
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2011/05/sts-135-ksc-realign-schedule-preliminary-july-12-launch/
I know, there will be at least one "Twitterer" who'll selectivly hole-in-one misread that and try to misrepresent it, but I don't think I can be any clearer on what preliminary is.
Any idea what time frame a launch might be on 7/12?
Roughly 9:45 am EDT according to Chris G. But that will change slightly based on the ISS reboost coming up. Just plan for mid-morning.
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#274
by
rtphokie
on 12 May, 2011 18:23
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Roughly 9:45 am EDT according to Chris G. But that will change slightly based on the ISS reboost coming up. Just plan for mid-morning.
That would be consistent with what Heavens Above is (currently) showing for an ISS pass just north of KSC that morning
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#275
by
nathan.moeller
on 12 May, 2011 18:47
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Roughly 9:45 am EDT according to Chris G. But that will change slightly based on the ISS reboost coming up. Just plan for mid-morning.
That would be consistent with what Heavens Above is (currently) showing for an ISS pass just north of KSC that morning

Yep. In plane time would be shortly before that pass.
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#276
by
LoveMrEd
on 16 May, 2011 17:14
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Any idea what time frame a launch might be on 7/12?
Roughly 9:45 am EDT according to Chris G. But that will change slightly based on the ISS reboost coming up. Just plan for mid-morning.
Any update on when they may announce a new firmer NET date now that Endeavour is on her way?
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#277
by
Chris Bergin
on 16 May, 2011 17:33
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We've seen "around July 10" on a MOD note, but KSC is still on a prelim of July 12. So really not worth taking a date to the bank just yet.
We'll know within a few days.
Meanwhile, Atlantis rolls over on Tuesday, 8am first motion was the latest target.
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#278
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 May, 2011 06:52
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About five hours until Atlantis is scheduled to leave her home.
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#279
by
Chris Bergin
on 17 May, 2011 11:01
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Still on for 8am. Will be another extended duration rollover for the obvious sad reasons.