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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #60 on: 03/09/2010 05:42 pm »
D***.  Didn't see a thing on the KSC live stream.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #61 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »
Did they set something on fire?

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #62 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »

Wow, now THAT was an attempt, and did y'all notice the fire burning up the side of the booster after shotdown??

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #63 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »
It certainly seemed less than 3 seconds... But perhaps not.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #64 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »
This didn't look good, the 1st stage vented immediately at ignition, looked like an abort.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #65 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »

er, shUtdown...

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #66 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »
Yeah, that didn't look right.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #67 on: 03/09/2010 05:43 pm »
getting quite smokey now...

Crap - I thought this was more of the venting.. Missed the test completely!!  damn...
« Last Edit: 03/09/2010 05:45 pm by stockman »
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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #68 on: 03/09/2010 05:44 pm »
That did not appear to be a full 3.5 second test, but the video streams aren't very detailed; it also appeared as if the venting started again before the flames died away.
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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #69 on: 03/09/2010 05:44 pm »
Yeah, saw that flame, certainly not 3.5 seconds worth of ignition unless they have some way of hiding the smoke.


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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #70 on: 03/09/2010 05:44 pm »
Yeah, that didn't look right.

It looked like 1/2 a second...but I did see fire!

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #71 on: 03/09/2010 05:45 pm »
SFN don't know what's going on either. "A flash of fire and smoke was just observed at the base of the Falcon 9 rocket, possibly indicating ignition"

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #72 on: 03/09/2010 05:45 pm »
And there is definite scorching around the base of the vehicle nearest to the SFN webcam.
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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #73 on: 03/09/2010 05:45 pm »
was that it?

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #74 on: 03/09/2010 05:46 pm »
This didn't look good, the 1st stage vented immediately at ignition, looked like an abort.

Concur--I believe an abort.  Too bad no audio.  Hopefully the SpaceX folks learned from this, and the next one (and the first flight) work to plan!  Rocket science indeed...

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #75 on: 03/09/2010 05:46 pm »
Yes, there seems to be a vertical scorch mark on the base, about where I saw a lick of flame.  I don't see it in the earlier posted frames, but the quality is pretty bad to say for sure.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #76 on: 03/09/2010 05:46 pm »
Definitely not a full 3.5 s burn, that would blow the flame trench exit clean out.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #77 on: 03/09/2010 05:46 pm »
If you remember the Falcon 1 launches, the RP-1 was too cold due to the common bulkhead with the LOX tank inside the first stage.  This cold RP-1 hit performance slightly and they aborted just after ignition.  They were able to pump out the RP-1 and then re-tank with the now slightly warmer fuel.  After that, the Falcon 1 launched. 

I know it has a common bulkhead for RP-1 and LOX, could something similar happen here?

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #78 on: 03/09/2010 05:47 pm »
Well, at least it didn't blow up on the pad.  Something was clearly amiss though.

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Re: SpaceX: Falcon 9 Hotfire Updates
« Reply #79 on: 03/09/2010 05:47 pm »
Yes, there seems to be a vertical scorch mark on the base, about where I saw a lick of flame.  I don't see it in the earlier posted frames, but the quality is pretty bad to say for sure.
« Last Edit: 03/09/2010 05:48 pm by marshallsplace »

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