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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #20 on: 04/11/2006 02:56 AM »
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Davie OPF - 10/4/2006  5:26 PMI think that's Discovery, with her KU Band Antenna in OPF3.
Why's it sticking out like that? It's just asking for a lamp to be knocked on to it! :o  ;)

It is being tested

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #21 on: 04/11/2006 10:00 AM »
#1 post so let's see if it works...

I have some questions and I hope someone can anwser them:
1) Is this new (or improved) ET still called SLWT or is there a new designation?
2) Are FRCS "exclusive" to an orbiter or are they switched around like the OMS pods?
3) What is the STS number of mission 41D? I think it was STS-14 before the RSLS abort, and 41F was STS-16. But after the missions were merged, I don't know if the "new" 41D sticked to STS-14, or if it changed to STS-16 because it moved to the 0884 launch slot (STS-16).
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #22 on: 04/11/2006 10:05 AM »
1)I believe it's still SLWT(Super Light-Weight external Tank)
2)FRCS modules switched around the vehicles
3)No idea. Someone else around here should be able to answer this one though.
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #23 on: 04/11/2006 10:17 AM »
That was fast... thanks!!!!!!!
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #24 on: 04/11/2006 11:45 AM »
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GLS - 11/4/2006  6:00 AM#1 post so let's see if it works...I have some questions and I hope someone can anwser them:1) Is this new (or improved) ET still called SLWT or is there a new designation?2) Are FRCS "exclusive" to an orbiter or are they switched around like the OMS pods?3) What is the STS number of mission 41D? I think it was STS-14 before the RSLS abort, and 41F was STS-16. But after the missions were merged, I don't know if the "new" 41D sticked to STS-14, or if it changed to STS-16 because it moved to the 0884 launch slot (STS-16).

That was the whole point of the new system, there wasn't an STS-XXX.  It was STS 41-D and the XXX didn't apply any more

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #25 on: 04/11/2006 12:50 PM »
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I think that's Discovery, with her KU Band Antenna in OPF3.

Yes, it's OPF 3.

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #26 on: 04/15/2006 11:41 AM »
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That was the whole point of the new system, there wasn't an STS-XXX.  It was STS 41-D and the XXX didn't apply any more

They still used the STS-XXX but it wasn't as a mission name, but as a "launch slot" based on when the vehicle could fly (I think...), and as missions got delayed and moved around, they would change slots. Example: the first planned launch slot in 86 was STS-33 on OV-099. Originally mission 61D (SL-4 or something) was to launch in 33, but after all the delays and moving around mission 51L launched in that slot. 34 was for mission 61E (ASTRO-1) on OV-102, slot 35 had mission 61F (Ulysses/Centaur-G Prime) on OV-099 and 36 was for mission 61G (Galileo/Centaur-G Prime) on OV-104.

Does anyone know the answer for my STS-14/STS-16 question?
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #27 on: 04/15/2006 03:24 PM »
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Jim - 11/4/2006  12:45 PMThat was the whole point of the new system, there wasn't an STS-XXX.  It was STS 41-D and the XXX didn't apply any more
They still used the STS-XXX but it wasn't as a mission name, but as a "launch slot" based on when the vehicle could fly (I think...), and as missions got delayed and moved around, they would change slots. Example: the first planned launch slot in 86 was STS-33 on OV-099. Originally mission 61D (SL-4 or something) was to launch in 33, but after all the delays and moving around mission 51L launched in that slot. 34 was for mission 61E (ASTRO-1) on OV-102, slot 35 had mission 61F (Ulysses/Centaur-G Prime) on OV-099 and 36 was for mission 61G (Galileo/Centaur-G Prime) on OV-104.Does anyone know the answer for my STS-14/STS-16 question?

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #28 on: 04/15/2006 05:32 PM »
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GLS - 11/4/2006  6:00 AM#1 post so let's see if it works...I have some questions and I hope someone can anwser them:1) Is this new (or improved) ET still called SLWT or is there a new designation?2) Are FRCS "exclusive" to an orbiter or are they switched around like the OMS pods?3) What is the STS number of mission 41D? I think it was STS-14 before the RSLS abort, and 41F was STS-16. But after the missions were merged, I don't know if the "new" 41D sticked to STS-14, or if it changed to STS-16 because it moved to the 0884 launch slot (STS-16).

That was the whole point of the new system, there wasn't an STS-XXX.  It was STS 41-D and the XXX didn't apply any more


That was a pretty confusing transition back then.  I was only a kid at the time but thanks to some highly placed freinds I accumulated a good collection of checklists and operating procedures as each flight rolled around.  I have plenty of documents that show one or both of the designations at that time.   For instance I have checklists and coundown documents for STS-11, 12 and I believe a couple with STS-13.  By the time 41D was ready to fly I guess they had the new system down because all of the 41D material I have used the new designation.  To the best of my knowledge I don't have anything with a STS-14 or higher designation until the first return to flight (post 51L) in 1988.

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #29 on: 04/15/2006 11:18 PM »
If Shuttle missions are STS', what do we think CLV/CEV missions will be designated?

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #30 on: 04/15/2006 11:44 PM »
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Martin FL - 15/4/2006  7:18 PMIf Shuttle missions are STS', what do we think CLV/CEV missions will be designated?

Exploration Transportation System (ETS)

...at least that's what ATK has on their safe simple soon website

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #31 on: 04/16/2006 12:20 AM »
I was just thinking of that in the SDLV forum.

I was thinking that project constellation is the same designation as project apollo... if that is so, then maybe the designations will be constellation 1,2,3,4,5,6...

but I think I like the ETS better. reminds me of STS.
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #32 on: 04/16/2006 04:27 AM »
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Martin FL - 15/4/2006  7:18 PMIf Shuttle missions are STS', what do we think CLV/CEV missions will be designated?

Exploration Transportation System (ETS)

...at least that's what ATK has on their safe simple soon website

That is ATK's name in their proposal. Only used on their website.   It is not the NASA's

There was a little hubris in NASA using "STS" and "NSTS"

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #33 on: 04/16/2006 07:33 AM »
What would the "N" stand for?

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #34 on: 04/16/2006 08:33 AM »
National

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #35 on: 04/18/2006 02:31 PM »
Can anyone list the evolution of the SRBs from STS-1 to current day?
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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #36 on: 04/18/2006 02:35 PM »
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Stowbridge - 18/4/2006  10:31 AMCan anyone list the evolution of the SRBs from STS-1 to current day?

SRM  pre 51-L

RSRM STS-26 and on

There have been material changes here and there but nothing that would change the configuration

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #37 on: 04/25/2006 11:21 PM »
Can someone explain what I'm looking at in this picture. It seems there's a LOX feedline, an LH2 feedline but also some other pipes. Any help?

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #38 on: 04/26/2006 12:06 AM »
Its the aft  External Tank connections to the Shuttle if what I am seeing is correct

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RE: Shuttle Questions Q and A (2)
« Reply #39 on: 04/26/2006 12:07 AM »
You are correct!

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