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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #1 on: 02/06/2010 09:52 am »
In configuration 2, with the capsule inside the HTV, they don't seem to be worried about an escape tower, if they're planning on a later crewed version...

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #2 on: 02/08/2010 04:35 pm »
In configuration 2, with the capsule inside the HTV, they don't seem to be worried about an escape tower, if they're planning on a later crewed version...

That or be planning to pull the entire vehicle free of the LV though there still would be the issue of how do you separate the capsule.

Configuration 1 is likely the desirable configuration if they need a habitation module they can add a MOL type tunnel to reach it.

Gemini B,TKS-VA, and the Shuttle showed a heat shield with a properly designed hatch in it is not any less safe then one without a hatch.

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #3 on: 02/09/2010 04:43 pm »
In configuration 2, with the capsule inside the HTV, they don't seem to be worried about an escape tower, if they're planning on a later crewed version...

Thats not the launch configuration. After launch the modules change position.

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #4 on: 02/09/2010 05:26 pm »
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/hyperbola/2009/01/pictures-jaxas-h-iib-launched.html

another jaxa manned vehicle plan.finally,jaxa goes for single capsule or soyuz style?Japan together with europe want their independence in manned spaceflight.
« Last Edit: 02/12/2010 05:21 pm by Ronsmytheiii »

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #5 on: 08/11/2010 01:30 pm »
Latest official study report (Japanese) was released today.

Option 0  Small capsule
Option 1  2.6m x 1.5m 2,000kg capsule (Return   300kg)
Option 2  4.0m x 3.8m 5,700kg capsule (Return 1,600kg)

Trade off study will be held about half year from now. 

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #6 on: 08/27/2010 04:48 pm »
Update on plans for a Japanese recoverable HTV:
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n1008/27cargoreturn/   
http://indefenseofjapan.com/blog/2010/09/14/japans-post-2016-commitment-to-jem-iss-and-htv-r/
http://www.spacenews.com/commentaries/100816-jaxa-plans-cargo-spacecraft.html
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2010/08/15/japan-convert-htv-human-spaceflight/
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2010/08/20100811_sac_htv-r.pdf

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"Of these plans, JAXA is focusing mainly on plans two and three that can be converted into manned spacecraft. The space agency intends to make a final decision by the end of the current fiscal year and launch the first HTV-R sometime between 2016 and 2018."

Japan's new fiscal year begins April 1.

See also this presentation that shows how the ATV-R, option would work:
« Last Edit: 08/15/2011 02:45 pm by yg1968 »

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #7 on: 03/29/2011 05:56 pm »
Some cool images of the HTV-R, option 2 from last December:
http://iss.jaxa.jp/library/photo/tag/HTV-R

From what I have read, the JAXA Fiscal Year 2011 Budget released in January 2011 included 50 million yens (US$600k) for a preliminary study on the HTV-R.
« Last Edit: 03/29/2011 06:27 pm by yg1968 »

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #8 on: 03/29/2011 07:05 pm »
Some cool images of the HTV-R, option 2 from last December:
http://iss.jaxa.jp/library/photo/tag/HTV-R

From what I have read, the JAXA Fiscal Year 2011 Budget released in January 2011 included 50 million yens (US$600k) for a preliminary study on the HTV-R.
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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #9 on: 09/16/2011 02:16 pm »
Since August 2011, JAXA now has a specific HTV-R webpage in Japannese with some images:
http://iss.jaxa.jp/htv-r/index.html#sinario

Google translation of the webpage:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fiss.jaxa.jp%2Fhtv-r%2Findex.html%23sinario&sl=ja&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

On the subject of HTV-R, see also this thread:
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=26334.0
« Last Edit: 09/16/2011 02:26 pm by yg1968 »

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #10 on: 12/18/2011 12:43 pm »
Interesting presentation that includes the HTV-R:
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/605307main_JAXA-Status-(Final)-A-Sato.pdf

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #11 on: 10/25/2012 07:04 am »
New information.

Japan Wants Space Plane or Capsule by 2022
http://www.space.com/18198-japan-plans-manned-capsule-space-plane.html

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The current HTV spacecraft's pressurized cargo section would be replaced by the recoverable capsule, which is made of an aluminium alloy. Development of the HTV-R begins next year, and the first flight is targeted for 2017, JAXA officials said.

"For HTV-R we are asking for funding for this coming year, and we are expecting next year to start development phase for HTV-R, and for the crewed capsule we are conducting some key technology research," Kuniaki Shiraki, JAXA’s executive director of human space systems and utilization mission directorate, told SPACE.com. "This year on these [manned] technologies we are spending $600,000."

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #12 on: 10/25/2012 09:14 am »
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/hyperbola/2009/01/pictures-jaxas-h-iib-launched.html

another jaxa manned vehicle plan.finally,jaxa goes for single capsule or soyuz style?Japan together with europe want their independence in manned spaceflight.

Now, over 2.5 years later I think it is safe to state that Europe - no let me rephrase that: ESA - does not want independence in manned spaceflight. ATV evolution proposals have been shot down and at best (or worst?) ESA will become a sub-contractor for some part of Orion.

Japan, on the other hand, seems to be pushing nicely towards independent manned capabilities. Development of HTV-R will be the first step. Good for them. I hope they will succeed.
« Last Edit: 10/25/2012 09:19 am by woods170 »

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #13 on: 10/25/2012 07:07 pm »
Well it's to see that JAXA is actually serious about this. Hopefully it get's fully funded because the more nations that engage in their own manned space flight program the better.

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #14 on: 10/27/2012 03:01 pm »
New information.

Japan Wants Space Plane or Capsule by 2022
http://www.space.com/18198-japan-plans-manned-capsule-space-plane.html

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The current HTV spacecraft's pressurized cargo section would be replaced by the recoverable capsule, which is made of an aluminium alloy. Development of the HTV-R begins next year, and the first flight is targeted for 2017, JAXA officials said.

"For HTV-R we are asking for funding for this coming year, and we are expecting next year to start development phase for HTV-R, and for the crewed capsule we are conducting some key technology research," Kuniaki Shiraki, JAXA’s executive director of human space systems and utilization mission directorate, told SPACE.com. "This year on these [manned] technologies we are spending $600,000."
Where would it dock? And since JAXA only gets to send about one astronaut to the ISS per year than what's the point of building this?
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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #15 on: 10/27/2012 03:31 pm »
Where would it dock?
Maybe JAXA is one of the entities that has been chatting with Mr. Bigelow.
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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #16 on: 10/27/2012 06:29 pm »
Where would it dock?
Maybe JAXA is one of the entities that has been chatting with Mr. Bigelow.

Why would they spend money on Kibo, a new vehicle and capsule, and then dock at Bigelow?

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #17 on: 10/27/2012 08:22 pm »
New information.

Japan Wants Space Plane or Capsule by 2022
http://www.space.com/18198-japan-plans-manned-capsule-space-plane.html

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The current HTV spacecraft's pressurized cargo section would be replaced by the recoverable capsule, which is made of an aluminium alloy. Development of the HTV-R begins next year, and the first flight is targeted for 2017, JAXA officials said.

"For HTV-R we are asking for funding for this coming year, and we are expecting next year to start development phase for HTV-R, and for the crewed capsule we are conducting some key technology research," Kuniaki Shiraki, JAXA’s executive director of human space systems and utilization mission directorate, told SPACE.com. "This year on these [manned] technologies we are spending $600,000."
Where would it dock? And since JAXA only gets to send about one astronaut to the ISS per year than what's the point of building this?

National prestige in the un-official Asian space race.

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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #18 on: 10/28/2012 12:46 pm »
New information.

Japan Wants Space Plane or Capsule by 2022
http://www.space.com/18198-japan-plans-manned-capsule-space-plane.html

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The current HTV spacecraft's pressurized cargo section would be replaced by the recoverable capsule, which is made of an aluminium alloy. Development of the HTV-R begins next year, and the first flight is targeted for 2017, JAXA officials said.

"For HTV-R we are asking for funding for this coming year, and we are expecting next year to start development phase for HTV-R, and for the crewed capsule we are conducting some key technology research," Kuniaki Shiraki, JAXA’s executive director of human space systems and utilization mission directorate, told SPACE.com. "This year on these [manned] technologies we are spending $600,000."
Where would it dock? And since JAXA only gets to send about one astronaut to the ISS per year than what's the point of building this?

National prestige in the un-official Asian space race.
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Re: HTV-R
« Reply #19 on: 10/31/2012 08:49 am »
New information.

Japan Wants Space Plane or Capsule by 2022
http://www.space.com/18198-japan-plans-manned-capsule-space-plane.html

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The current HTV spacecraft's pressurized cargo section would be replaced by the recoverable capsule, which is made of an aluminium alloy. Development of the HTV-R begins next year, and the first flight is targeted for 2017, JAXA officials said.

"For HTV-R we are asking for funding for this coming year, and we are expecting next year to start development phase for HTV-R, and for the crewed capsule we are conducting some key technology research," Kuniaki Shiraki, JAXA’s executive director of human space systems and utilization mission directorate, told SPACE.com. "This year on these [manned] technologies we are spending $600,000."
Where would it dock? And since JAXA only gets to send about one astronaut to the ISS per year than what's the point of building this?

I've held to the theory that JAXA could add a small habitation and docking facility to accommodate it and an eighth crew member at ISS. If they get this far, such an addition to ISS is not that big of a deal, depending on how serious they are!

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