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Offline Nicolas PILLET

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #20 on: 10/08/2009 04:25 pm »
I think that TWO tests were conducted :

- a first, involving the dome, to ensure there was no leakage in the docking system in particular

- a second, in the vacuum chamber, to the whole spacecraft had no leakage.

The second test has to be done like for all other Soyuz/Progress spacecrafts, but on "standard" spacecrafts the docking system has no need to have further testing, since it will be used only for a limited period of time...

But this is only supposition...
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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #21 on: 10/09/2009 05:30 pm »
Video of Progress M-MIM2 transportation into the 17T523M vacuum camera:

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #22 on: 10/09/2009 06:45 pm »
Will this module be docked on Zvezda nadir or zenit? Isn't it basically the Pirs replacement, and Pirs will be jettisoned soon?

EDIT: never mind - In the NASA press attached to this thread kit it states it will dock to the "space-facing" port. Which is zenit, I assume.
« Last Edit: 10/09/2009 06:48 pm by Lars_J »

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #23 on: 10/09/2009 06:49 pm »
Will this module be docked on Zvezda nadir or zenit? Isn't it basically the Pirs replacement, and Pirs will be jettisoned soon?

MRM-2 will be docked to the zenith port of Zvezda module. For now, it is replacement for Pirs module. But it can be an addition to it, if MLM will not be launched at all.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #24 on: 10/12/2009 03:47 pm »
http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7743

Leak checks of Progress M-MIM2 cargo ship-module in vacuum chamber were successfully finished today.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #25 on: 10/12/2009 04:29 pm »
A few questions for anik

1) Enjoy watching the Youtube videos and forum images of Progress and Soyuz vehicles under 'construction' For someone who has followed the previous Soviet Union programmes then lately Russian,et al states since 1956, it makes all the difference to see these 'detailed' videos and images - as well as data. In those early days - back in the late 50's and through the 60's - gleaning information was sure hard work from obscure angled grainy films or photos ::)  Most information was gleaned from international conferences that Soviet space scientists and engineers were allowed to attend and through hours of trolling through learned space journals  :D 
I was lucky to go to Moscow for ASTP and was able to see up close many of the early models of space vehicles (Vostok, Luna's,Lunokhod, Salyut) at the Achievement Exhibition Hall. The 'best' exhibit was the "Vostok" launch vehicle erected outside ;) 

2) The vacuum chamber that Progress-M-MIMS2 (and others) have recently been tested in appears somehwat new. Do you know how old it is and where is it located ?

3) The technicians and engineers working on these spacecraft must now mainly be 2nd or 3rd (maybe even 4th) 'generation' space engineers. Are there any 'original' Soyuz spacecraft engineers still around working on 'todays' vehicles? Or have they 'retired' like me :D 

4) What qualifications do they need to be able get a job ? i.e Do they need university or college degrees and qualifications? What main subjects?
Or, are they working on 'the job' and undergoing apprenticiships - being tutored by senior engineers? Maybe attending college 2-3 times a week ?

Anik - hope you have time and maybe contacts to answer these  :D


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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #26 on: 10/12/2009 05:21 pm »
2) The vacuum chamber that Progress-M-MIMS2 (and others) have recently been tested in appears somewhat new. Do you know how old it is and where is it located?

This vacuum chamber is called 17T523M and it was installed in 1997 at one of halls in the spacecraft processing facility on area 254 of Baikonur cosmodrome.

3) The technicians and engineers working on these spacecraft must now mainly be 2nd or 3rd (maybe even 4th) 'generation' space engineers. Are there any 'original' Soyuz spacecraft engineers still around working on 'todays' vehicles? Or have they 'retired' like me :D

I think someone is continuing to work, someone has retired, someone is something else...

4) What qualifications do they need to be able get a job? Do they need university or college degrees and qualifications?

I think they do not need university or college degrees, it is enough to be a worker with respective qualification.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #27 on: 10/12/2009 05:48 pm »
Thanks anik for the pictures and information.  Myself like Apollo Phill remember when this data and pictures would have been impossible or very hard to find or see.  It is great that most of the world people get together and share the information today.
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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #28 on: 10/13/2009 06:53 pm »
Progress M-MIM2 transportation from vacuum chamber to test stand:
« Last Edit: 10/13/2009 07:18 pm by Andy USA »

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #29 on: 10/14/2009 01:48 am »
4) What qualifications do they need to be able get a job ? i.e Do they need university or college degrees and qualifications? What main subjects?
Or, are they working on 'the job' and undergoing apprenticiships - being tutored by senior engineers? Maybe attending college 2-3 times a week ?

Same as in the other industries, in russian space industry you can take a job of "engineer", "technician" or "worker" with respective levels of basic education, and then progress with time and experience, inside those classes. To change "class" you have to change basic level of education, a worker, which graduated from ordinary high-school or prof-tech-school, should go to a tech-college or university(institute), a technician should go to the university to get an engineer's job, engineer should go to the postgraduate study - "aspirantura" in the university to get a scientific degree.

Yes, there's formal "apprenticeship" or "young specialist" period and there's formal report wrote after sometime on entry-job by  "superior/headman", it's necessary to get a next promotion inside "education class", get more payment in organization, etc. And there's some regular "promotion courses" or literally "courses for advancing qualification". And, yes, there's a "part-time education" or "distant education".

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #30 on: 10/14/2009 05:42 pm »
http://www.energia.ru/rus/iss/iss21/progress-m-mim2/photo_10-14.html

Russian cosmonauts Oleg Kotov, Anatoliy Ivanishin, Oleg Novitskiy, Aleksey Ovchinin, Maksim Ponomaryov and Sergey Ryzhikov have trained inside MRM-2 module at Baikonur cosmodrome today.
« Last Edit: 10/14/2009 05:43 pm by anik »

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #31 on: 10/14/2009 09:04 pm »
14-10-2009 Cosmonauts Train in the Mini-Reseach Module

   6 Russian cosmonauts arrived at Baikonur to run training in the mini-research module. Oleg Kotov, Anatoly Ivanshin, Oleg Novitsky, Alexey Ovchinin, Maxim Ponomariev, Sergey Ryzhikov undergo training preparing for the missions to the International Space Station.
   MRM-2 module is planned to be launched from Baikonur on Nov. 10. The module is to provide docking ports for Soyuzes and Progresses, airlock for EVAs, and space to accomodate cargo and scientific payloads of total mass about 870 kg.
 
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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #32 on: 10/19/2009 05:01 pm »
Video of training of cosmonauts inside MRM-2 module:

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #33 on: 10/22/2009 04:34 pm »
http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7886

The preparation of Soyuz-U rocket to a launch was begun today.

http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7877

MIM-2 (МИМ-2 in Russian, MRM-2 in English) module was officially named Poisk (Поиск in Russian, Search or Quest in English) today.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #34 on: 10/26/2009 05:57 pm »
Poisk Launch Pad under Prelaunch Processing
26-10-2009

http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7938

Launch infrastructure at pad 1 is being prepared for Poisk-MRM-2 launch by Soyuz-U rocket which is to take place on Nov. 10.
Preliminary processing for further prop filling operation of the module is expected to be completed tomorrow. Then, Poisk will be transported to the filling station at site 31.
Soyuz-U undergoes pneumatic tests.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #35 on: 10/27/2009 03:30 pm »
Preparation of cargoes and their loading into Poisk:

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #36 on: 10/27/2009 06:13 pm »
Preparation of cargoes and their loading into Poisk:
http:// www .youtube.com/watch?v=_uJkOfwEPBU

What caught my eye is that the launch fairing/shroud just says Progress M?

Compare
http://www.energia.ru/rus/iss/iss03/pirs/im/photo_09-13-04.jpg
« Last Edit: 10/27/2009 06:20 pm by Stan Black »

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #37 on: 10/28/2009 02:41 pm »
http://www.federalspace.ru/NewsDoSele.asp?NEWSID=7973

Tanks of Progress M-MIM2 cargo ship were fueled by propellants and compressed gases today.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #38 on: 11/02/2009 04:47 pm »
November 1, 2009
http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss21/progress-m-mim2/photo_11-01.html

Progress M-MRM2 special-purpose cargo space vehicle-module was docked with the transfer compartment in the Spacecraft Assembly and Testing Facility.

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Re: Progress M-MIM2 launch - November 10, 2009
« Reply #39 on: 11/03/2009 01:23 pm »
November 3, 2009. Baikonur Cosmodrome,
branch of RSC Energia after S.P. Korolev

http://www.energia.ru/eng/iss/iss21/progress-m-mim2/photo_11-03.html

At Baikonur launch site the preparations continue for the launch of special-purpose cargo space vehicle-module Progress M-MRM2, which is to deliver new Russian Poisk Module to the International Space Station.

Designers inspection of the Progress M-MRM2 special-purpose cargo space vehicle-module was completed.

Payload shroud roll on to the special-purpose cargo space vehicle-module was performed.
Jacques :-)

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