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Offline kraisee

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #380 on: 03/09/2007 02:23 am »
The truss will be included in the Shuttle Pad kit, as will most of the concrete hardstand (creating the flame trench with all the various deflectors) and all of the fixed work platforms permanently supporting the MLP.

And yes, I am trying to make the Crawler tracks work correctly - but as you can imagine, in a scale where the whole 'truck' is only a few inches long, that is pretty difficult.   It may prove impossibly expensive in 1:144 scale, but I'm trying...

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #381 on: 03/09/2007 11:50 pm »
I see.

Yeah for the Crawler in a larger scale it would be easy, but in 1/144 (and I know from owning the Revell LC-39 and stack kit as a kid years back) the tracks are extremely small. I'm as puzzled at how it will work. The pins for the tracks to hold them together would be made from tiny wire thin rods of brass. Looking at my 1/350 scale Titanic model http://www.titanic-model.com/dc/user_files/3740.jpg you can guess how thin the pins holding the cleats together would be. I'm guessing they'd have to be that small. You can barely see the trailings on the two models in this photo.

Yeah the model of the wreck seen is based on the bow section as it looks now. Here's a better photo http://www.titanic-model.com/dc/user_files/3738.jpg

You know, I was just thinking about a 1/72 scale Crawler. What if someone wants to make it into an R/C model that does move? The Titanic model, such as mine, some have acctually did that to their ship kits, and it works. :)

I am curious if the SRB hold down posts will have special latches to hold the model in place if it is set on the MLP? I ask as the 1/72 scale Monogram stand, if you try to lift the stand and model to move it to another shelf or something, the stack wobbles, and once it fell to the floor. My Discovery stack suffered that set back.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #382 on: 03/10/2007 11:23 pm »
Guys I recently got the 1/96 scale Revell Saturn V kit today. I'm having trouble making the wrap around sheets  fit onto the skirt sections of each stage. Any ideas please on what to do?

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #383 on: 03/13/2007 04:52 pm »
What kind of problems are you talking about?  When I built mine I wrapped the sheets around a piece of pvc and rubberbanded them for a couple of days first.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #384 on: 03/13/2007 06:00 pm »
Well they wouldn't stay in place when I tried to wrap them, as the directions say, then add glue the ends on. I am thinking of just buying tubing to replace the wraps.

I wqonder if New Ware has the resin parts to make a detailed model? The other question I have is how to modify the corrugated parts of the top of the first stage  up to the third stage? I ask as in photos the pattern for the upper stages resembles the intertank of the shuttle ET.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #385 on: 03/17/2007 02:22 am »
New model of Ares I released:  http://www.realspacemodels.com/html/ares_1.html

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #386 on: 03/23/2007 10:18 am »
Looking for: Sputnik satellite paper model. Anyone have a link when I can download this? Preferably a free version. I easily found the launch vehicle but not the satellite itself. I will appreciate any help you can give me.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #387 on: 03/23/2007 05:44 pm »
I've finally got the brass solar arrays for my 1:48th scale CEV kit.   The paint isn't finished yet, but I thought you guys might be interested in seeing them.   And yes, they still need painting :)



Click the image above for a much larger image.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #388 on: 04/06/2007 12:29 am »
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MarkD - 9/3/2007  6:50 PM

I see.

Yeah for the Crawler in a larger scale it would be easy,




excuse me here while I go to my room and mumble over this thought for the rest of the month.


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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #389 on: 04/06/2007 09:05 pm »
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Looking for: Sputnik satellite paper model. Anyone have a link when I can download this? Preferably a free version. I easily found the launch vehicle but not the satellite itself. I will appreciate any help you can give me.
wouldnt it be easier to attach few threads to table-tennis ball?

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #390 on: 04/09/2007 06:25 pm »
Tennis ball and thread?

But the scale and details...

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #391 on: 04/22/2007 05:20 am »
dose anyone know were i can get a shuttle paylord in 1/72  i just think my paylord bay looks empty with the real space kit.  thanks

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #392 on: 04/22/2007 03:33 pm »
Norm, sorry but I don't know of any other kits for the 1:72 scale Shuttle.   Tomas Kladiva at New Ware has a detailing kit for the 1:144th scale which is great, but hasn't done one for the 1:72nd yet.

So all I can suggest is to pick a mission, grab as many pictures of the mission on-orbit as you can find, and scratch-build it to suit yourself.

Ross.
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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #393 on: 05/17/2007 08:30 pm »
Here is a good site with links to lots of paper models, including a few Ares and Orion links.  Looks like one of the Ares I models is pretty up to date.  I'm almost considering paper "kit bashing" a DIRECT v.2 (Jupiter) model using the available shuttle ET's and SRBs, the Orion and bits and pieces of rescaled Saturn V sections.

http://jleslie48.com/gallery_models_real.html

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #394 on: 05/18/2007 02:39 am »
Well here are some shots of my work in progress.  I've been working on the boosters and tank.  I still have some touch up to do, decals to add and some parts to finish painting/assembling before I call this complete.  The orbiter I'm going to put with this stack is Columbia but I haven't finished that yet so I sat Challenger on there.  Oddly enough I still need to finish the Challenger stack.  Doh!  That's what happens when you have to many irons in the fire.  :)  

Oh yeah,  I recently had to order another decal sheet from Revell since I messed up some decals and they have corrected the backwards flag for the current orbiter markings  that was on the decal sheet included with the reissue of the Discovery Kit.

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #395 on: 05/18/2007 03:18 am »
Looking mighty good!  I really like the color you found for the ET; it looks pretty close to the real thing.  I'm glad to see that Revell reissued their shuttle stack (although I'm a bit surprised that it's by Revell of Germany, rather than Revell-Monogram.)
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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #396 on: 05/18/2007 03:35 am »
Hey everyone!

I ordered a Delta IVM kit from RealSpace models a couple years back, and I'm just now getting around to starting it.  Does anybody know a good site for reference pics?

So far, these are the only reference pictures I can find.  They're not bad, but I'm looking for something a little closer up.  

http://www.ktb.net/~billmeco/delta4NROL22A.html

http://www.ktb.net/~billmeco/delta4NROL22A.html

As a bonus I'd like to scrounge up some nice shots of SLC-6 so I could make a diorama, but most importantly I just want to get the launch vehicle done before I worry about that.

Thanks in advance,

James
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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #397 on: 05/19/2007 02:06 am »
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Looking mighty good!  I really like the color you found for the ET; it looks pretty close to the real thing.  I'm glad to see that Revell reissued their shuttle stack (although I'm a bit surprised that it's by Revell of Germany, rather than Revell-Monogram.)

Thanks CFE,  I originally used Floquil's SP Daylight Orange when I first did the tank and it was spot on without having to mix it.  Then I decided to remove the rings and extra pressure line from the tank to make it look right.  When I got around to painting the tank again I purchased more SP Daylight Orange and it didn't look right.  I had some left over from my first attempt and noticed the colors didn't match even though they were the same color and stock #.  I then realised that the first bottles I bought were old stock before Testors bought Floquil.  The new bottle looks more brown than yellow/burnt orange of the original bottles.  I remeber Mark D  saying he used Model Master Chrome Yellow so I got some of that and it is a very bright yellow rather than the sun exposed yellow/orange.  So I mixed some of the Floquil with the chrome yellow and was able to tone down the bright yellow and get the color of the tank.  Also the Chrome Yellow is a gloss paint so mixing it with the Daylight Orange and Paint thinner flattened out the finish.  I need to find another yellow similar to the chrome yellow but in a flat finish so I can try to do some of the fades that appear on the tanks sitting at the pad.  

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #398 on: 05/19/2007 03:23 am »
Here is a shot of the Columbia Model I'm working on.  I originally wanted to used the new markings on the wings but didn't find the decals until after I had already put the old markings on.  So I guess I'll make another Columbia with the new Markings later.  Gotta finish this one up first.  I also Included some pictures of my old Challenger that I built back in 1986 when I was about 13 years old and the new Challenger I started last year.  The reason the old Challenger is missing windows and payload bay doors is because I had to raid it for parts for the new Challenger.  The windows and payload bay doors didn't quite fit right on the new one so I thought I would try the old ones and they fit great!  I also used the old one as a test article before I messed up the new one.  What a difference a few years and some patience makes!  :)

Ben

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Re: The NASA model building thread
« Reply #399 on: 05/19/2007 09:13 pm »
Hi Ben. Yeah, I used chrome yellow as it matches the ET during rollout. The first photo showing the ET/SRB from the top resembles my 1/72 scale stack. I tried to match this photo http://www.interspacenews.com/interspace%20News%20Web%202/sections/photo%20galleries/STS-121/sts-121%20roll%20out%20May%2019,%202006%20032.jpg The way the STS-121 ET looked during rollout is the insperation for my two stack kits. :)

Oh and on the intertank of the kit you have, you may want to modify it. look at this pic http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/images/stack2a.gif of the old LWET and teh current SLWET at http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/images/stack4.gif See the modification for the SLWET?  All the shuttle stack kits show the older version. It's a small change, but worth it if you are showing the current look of the shuttle. Not to mention adding the PAL ramps, again up to you on what version of the stack you're making. I did mention somewhere here what I did for making the cable trays for the ET. Only the LH2 half doesn't have a cable tray. Use the strip seen on the LO2 tank as a guide.

I still need to get off my lazy butt and modify the booster attach ring to go all the way around the SRBs. :)

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