Author Topic: The NASA model building thread (Read 1083571 times)

Mark Dave · « **Reply #360 on:** 02/04/2007 11:38 pm »

What the....*shock* Dude that is cool,but I'd have made it more to scale.

Joey · « **Reply #361 on:** 02/05/2007 05:31 am »

That's a video I want to see!

publiusr · « **Reply #362 on:** 02/07/2007 10:34 pm »

So that is Super-Dave Osborn's X-Prize Entrant...

Mark Dave · « **Reply #363 on:** 02/07/2007 11:49 pm »

LOL I remember that show.

He always got injured in each stunt. "Fuji can you get me out of here."

Mark Dave · « **Reply #364 on:** 02/08/2007 08:17 pm »

Guys the new ET formats is ready on AXM's site. Check it out for the new "Rollout" ET.

spaceshuttle · « **Reply #365 on:** 02/22/2007 05:14 pm »

I'm asking in the "modeling thread" for a reason. Would anyone here consider STS-116, HSMs, 102, 89, 96, or 63 historic/milestone missions?

CFE · « **Reply #366 on:** 02/23/2007 02:40 am »

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spaceshuttle - 22/2/2007 11:14 AM

I'm asking in the "modeling thread" for a reason. Would anyone here consider STS-116, HSMs, 102, 89, 96, or 63 historic/milestone missions?

I guess "historic" is all in the eye of the beholder. I would certainly consider the original HST launch and the first HSM in '93 to be historic. I have a personal attachment to the most recent HSM (STS-109 in 2002,) because I watched it punch through the sky that chilly March morning. Other people might not feel that STS-109 was that important (although it did keep HST alive through 2008.)

STS-96 was the first docking with ISS. It was also Rick Husband's first mission. That might be enough reason for considering it important or historic.

As far as the model building thread goes, I certainly plan on choosing missions I feel are important for my projects. The Revell 1/144 scale Shuttle w/ ET & Boosters is reserved for my STS-114 project (or STS-121, if I include a murderous-looking astronaut figure

) Hopefully the shuttle program will conclude with a successful landing; that will motivate me to build the insanely-awesome Tamiya Shuttle (1/100 scale) in a landing diorama with deployed drag 'chute, to commemorate the safe conclusion of the program.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #367 on:** 02/23/2007 03:11 am »

I may use Columbia and modify it to have the Hubble repair kit in the cargo bay. Afterall I built my 1/72 scale orbiter based after watching STS-109.

Not to mention it was the same mission that gave Hubble a new look with new rigid solar arrays.

Say guys any tips for scratchbuilding a 1/72 scale Saturn V? I'm stuck on how to make the engines for each stage and for the S-IC the four engine fairings with the fins. As to diameter for the rocket I sort of remember that the Ares V will be 33 feet in diameter or to scale 5 inches. What would the scale be for the third stage? I'm building the rocket that has seperate stages that can seperate similar to the 1/144 Revell kit has. Any suggestions and tips welcome.

CFE · « **Reply #368 on:** 02/23/2007 03:51 am »

MarkD,

For your 72nd scale Columbia, did you use the Revell or Monogram kit? It's somewhat confusing because the Monogram kit was sold in the Revell-Monogram boxing after the merger went down, but the old Revell kit is available now in the Revell box. I generally prefer the Monogram kit, but Revell did a better job capturing the window shape. I'd prefer the Monogram kit if the payload bay was open, but the Revell kit looks nice with the toy-like bay closed up.

I don't know how you'll want to build the Saturn V engines, but it might work if you turned a wooden bell-shape on a lathe and vac-u-formed plastic engine bells over the wooden mold you just turned. The F1's were covered in insulation, so you can probably simulate that with putty or squares of thin plastic stock.

The S-IVB was 6.61 meters in diameter; in 1/72 scale that's 3.61 inches. Are you rolling your tanks from thin plastic sheets, or using solid tubes (or some other method?) I'd tend to think that PVC pipe, if available in the correct diameter, would be more realistic (no seam along the length of the tube.) I've never tried it before, though.

BTW, you must be extremely devoted to do a Saturn V that's about as tall as me. I'd like to see it when you're done.

nethegauner · « **Reply #369 on:** 02/23/2007 07:08 am »

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spaceshuttle - 22/2/2007 7:14 PM
I'm asking in the "modeling thread" for a reason. Would anyone here consider STS-116, HSMs, 102, 89, 96, or 63 historic/milestone missions?

Historic? The first HST-SM, for sure. The others? Not really, I'd say. Of course, STS-63 was highlighted by the first flight of a woman pilot aboard the shuttle. That I'd consider at least a milestone. On the same flight, OV-103 became the first orbiter to approch a space station. That was quite spectacular, but nothing historic.

But maybe having two milestones on the same flight makes it near-historic?

On STS-102, there were also milestones: first MPLM to fly, first ISS crew exchange ...

Mark Dave · « **Reply #370 on:** 02/23/2007 06:26 pm »

The model is the Monogram kit.

The Saturn V will be built using PVC tubing for the main body. The other difficult part is finding the best fitting corrugated styrene wrap arounds for the rocket. In close up photos the look of the skirts changes.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #371 on:** 02/23/2007 08:58 pm »

sorry for the double post.

Here's what inspired me to try to build my own 1/72 scale Saturn V rocket. http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/html_pix/shtlsatv.html

mike robel · « **Reply #372 on:** 02/24/2007 12:51 am »

Concievably, Glenn could have the molds for the F-1s that he used to make the model. If so, he may be able to make (and charge you for) some copies. It is more awesome in person, I have to tell you. Contact him at realspace @ nettally.com and ask him.

Mike

Mark Dave · « **Reply #373 on:** 02/24/2007 01:11 am »

I've tried to ask him for help, but hasn't answered me. According to what I saw on Launch Complex Models that is a planned kit to sell,but nothing new on it.

mike robel · « **Reply #374 on:** 02/24/2007 03:21 am »

Don;t confuse LCM (Kraisee) with Real Space Models. Ross may make a 1/70 or 1/72 LUT to go with the Apogee kit,, but I don't think he is working up a 1/72 Saturn V. I don't know if Glenn has the molds still or not, but I think if you ask him, he will answer.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #375 on:** 02/24/2007 01:10 pm »

I did ask him on help on scratchbuilding one, but as I said I haven't gotten an answer. LCM is where I found out about the 1/72 scale planned Saturn V by RSM.

I'll try asking again though.

kraisee · « **Reply #376 on:** 03/06/2007 07:14 pm »

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MarkD - 24/2/2007 9:10 AM

I did ask him on help on scratchbuilding one, but as I said I haven't gotten an answer. LCM is where I found out about the 1/72 scale planned Saturn V by RSM.

I'll try asking again though.

I'm not really the guy to be asking about scratch-building *rockets*, and I haven't been around much, so only just noticed this today.

I try to leave the making of such parts to others because my hands aren't really made for that sort of thing!

As long as I can design it on a computer (PE brass for example), then I'm in my element!

The best advice I can offer anyone wanting to scratch build a rocket model is to have a look at these three sites, and then to ask for assistance on the Space Modellers Yahoo Group - but I know both Mark and Mike are regulars on there already.

Sven Knudson's "Catch All" site dedicated to everything space model related.

Rick Sternbach's (of "Star Trek:TNG" NCC-1701D model-making fame) part-finished "Saturn-V Clinic" which describes the process of starting to make a Saturn-V from scratch.
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Tracy Kornfeld's "Scratchbuilding a 1:96 Saturn-V" page. <<<<< That's worth a look for anyone because of all the Apollo Astronauts who've signed his model!!!

As for Glenn @ RSM - he is usually a very helpful guy. If he ever took moulds of any 1:72 engines for his private Sat-V, I'm fairly sure you could *probably* persuade him to make you a set - for the right price. Otherwise you could try to buy one of the styrene packs included in the 1:70 scale set from Apogee Components. They're almost perfect size, and all you'd need to add is just the batting yourself.

Ross.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #377 on:** 03/06/2007 09:12 pm »

I'll try the 1/70 scale kit instead of 1/72.

Ross I can bet when the shuttle kits are on sale, the FSS will have the usual crane with lightning mast and the current FSS of 39A without the crane yes?

kraisee · « **Reply #378 on:** 03/07/2007 09:57 pm »

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MarkD - 6/3/2007 5:12 PM

I'll try the 1/70 scale kit instead of 1/72.

Ross I can bet when the shuttle kits are on sale, the FSS will have the usual crane with lightning mast and the current FSS of 39A without the crane yes?

When I eventually get around to making that kit (LC-39 Shuttle Pad), it will primarily be designed to replicate the 1981 STS-1 configuration - so will include the parts necessary to make the crane boom. You won't be forced to attach the boom though - it is a separate part from the crane machine room, so can be left off if desired.

I will have instructions to allow builders to make it resemble a more current configuration, but I don't intend to include in the initial kit any of the extra work platforms and parts which have been added to the FSS/RSS over the years. If there is demand for those to be added, then I may make an extra "upgrade kit".

But don't expect the Shuttle FSS/RSS kit to be available for probably two more years. Until then, the 1:144 Shuttle MLP and 1:72 Shuttle MLP will both be coming out in the next couple of months, just to keep people happy

Ross.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #379 on:** 03/07/2007 10:39 pm »

I see. I'll get the MLP and the rest of the LC shuttle kit seperately.

I'm saving up for both kits.

I'm guessing the crawler transporters will be longer to make as they are more complicated-and I recall something being said of the tracks able to have the CT move.

Will the LC-39 kits have the extra truss structure that goes over the flame trench as in this photo http://www.capcomespace.net/dossiers/espace_US/shuttle/ksc/SSWS%20tranchee%2002.jpg ?