Author Topic: The NASA model building thread (Read 1083651 times)

infimurf · « **Reply #340 on:** 01/20/2007 04:36 pm »

A question for you guys on the SRB's i have seen in several drawings of the srb's is that the upper cone that contains the chutes and separation motors is painted an off-white (yellowish color). i dont see that in the pictures of the srb's. is that real?

Mark Dave · « **Reply #341 on:** 01/20/2007 06:20 pm »

It's probably a weather cover.

infimurf · « **Reply #342 on:** 01/26/2007 02:08 am »

ok....i need some more advice from you guys. i'm starting to look at working on the ET a SLWT. I notice that the ribbing on the intertank goes all the way around the tank. has anyone ever modified a 1/72 to look like this? or any suggestions on how to do it?

any other tips on modifications that should be made i'd appreciate the comments.

thanks
tom

spaceshuttle · « **Reply #343 on:** 01/26/2007 03:25 am »

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infimurf - 25/1/2007 9:08 PM

ok....i need some more advice from you guys. i'm starting to look at working on the ET a SLWT. I notice that the ribbing on the intertank goes all the way around the tank. has anyone ever modified a 1/72 to look like this? or any suggestions on how to do it?

any other tips on modifications that should be made i'd appreciate the comments.

thanks
tom

This probably isn't the best idea, but you could warm up a hot glue gun (assuming you have one) and scrape the nozzle against the plastic as it will melt the plastic to make the groves. Again, not the BEST idea, but my $0.02.

Mark Dave · « **Reply #344 on:** 01/26/2007 11:35 am »

I also ran into that problem. The SRB thrust attach panls have ribbing, and that has not been worked on on my models. I did think once of scratchbuilding a new panel and using those to replace the holes left where the kit versions were,but never got to do that.

You can see my models at http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=28

Do you have photos of your model? I'm curious to see how far you got with the shuttle stack.

infimurf · « **Reply #345 on:** 01/26/2007 11:42 pm »

i have just done a single SRB up to this point. here it is

http://shuttlelaunchcomplex.com/0107detail.htm

Mark Dave · « **Reply #346 on:** 01/27/2007 12:00 am »

A little error on the SRB is the attach ring to the aft of the ET.

Check this out http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/images/stack2a.gif The ring goes all the way around the booster now. My kits still need this little addition to detail.

As you are making the present ET look compare that stack to this one http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/images/stack4.gif the intertank detail has changed. I just cut out the part that the stack 4 arrow points to as removed, and cut it out and used styrene to fill the hole left. Then to make the center detail I used 0.13mm thin sheet styrene. My models show the new look.

paulhbell07 · « **Reply #347 on:** 01/27/2007 01:29 pm »

That site has got to be one of the best reference site's around. And his models are also good too.

dwmzmm · « **Reply #348 on:** 01/27/2007 10:08 pm »

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infimurf - 26/1/2007 6:42 PM

i have just done a single SRB up to this point. here it is

http://shuttlelaunchcomplex.com/0107detail.htm

Your work looks great to me. Did you try using paint pens when doing the finishing work? I find them
useful when attempting to do minor detail work on my models.

TitanFan · « **Reply #349 on:** 01/29/2007 02:16 am »

I'm working on an X-15 right now, and I've got a RealSpace Models Delta IV up next.

C5C6 · « **Reply #350 on:** 02/03/2007 12:36 pm »

Here in Argentina the models available are not as detailed as I want, I got a friend living in Florida (near Tampa Bay I think) and she's coming in June, is there a place to buy high-detail models? Unfortunately I can't afford an expensive one (1 US$ = 3 AR$), so I was thinking on a small but high-detailed shuttle with ET & SRB......of how much money would be talking about?

Mark Dave · « **Reply #351 on:** 02/03/2007 11:42 pm »

AxM just updated his site with the new ET color. Check it out.

mike robel · « **Reply #352 on:** 02/04/2007 07:18 am »

You might want to try your hand at paper/card modeling. You print out the model forms on paper or card stock, cut them apart and put them together. The quality of some is excellent, many are free, and a put together one can be very well done. Plus, if you make a mistake, you just print out another piece.

Here are some linkes to explores:

http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/papermodels.html gives you many links.

This is an excellent site, including a 1/48 scale Saturn V: http://jleslie48.com/gallery_models_real.html

Mike

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C5C6 - 3/2/2007 8:36 AM
Here in Argentina the models available are not as detailed as I want, I got a friend living in Florida (near Tampa Bay I think) and she's coming in June, is there a place to buy high-detail models? Unfortunately I can't afford an expensive one (1 US$ = 3 AR$), so I was thinking on a small but high-detailed shuttle with ET & SRB......of how much money would be talking about?

AndyMc · « **Reply #353 on:** 02/04/2007 11:12 am »

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C5C6 - 3/2/2007 7:36 AM

Here in Argentina the models available are not as detailed as I want, I got a friend living in Florida (near Tampa Bay I think) and she's coming in June, is there a place to buy high-detail models? Unfortunately I can't afford an expensive one (1 US$ = 3 AR$), so I was thinking on a small but high-detailed shuttle with ET & SRB......of how much money would be talking about?

If cash is a problem, why not try 3D modelling. A couple of years ago I bought and began modelling an Airfix LM, but got side tracked by Orbiter - http://orbit.medphys.ucl.ac.uk/orbit.html . Since then I have built up enough skill to produce some of the models here: http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/my_orbiter_addons.htm . The Airfix LM remaind unfinished!

The software to produce the models is also mainly free. E.g. - http://www.anim8or.com/main/index.html

More here: http://www.aovi93.dsl.pipex.com/addon_software_utilities_tutorials.htm

C5C6 · « **Reply #354 on:** 02/04/2007 02:56 pm »

AndyMc, mike_robel, MarkD, thank you so much for your answers, unfortunately I can't do the paper model because im handicapped (nobody here cares enogh to consider time-worth building it) and I really want a 'plastic' (dont know actually on what materials they're made) model.......maybe if the whole pack (OV-ET-SRB) is very expensive then ill get only the orbiter.......what i need to know is where in Florida I can send my friend to look for one.......perhaps the shop has a website and I can choose the model before she goes....

infimurf · « **Reply #355 on:** 02/04/2007 03:55 pm »

tamaya has that 1/100 shuttle stack dont they. kind of a weird scale but all of the tamaya stuff has great detail. but i've never seen the actual model.

i'm sure its available places. have you tried ebay??

C5C6 · « **Reply #356 on:** 02/04/2007 05:35 pm »

Ive tried ebay and internet in general and the models i found are low-detailed, the ET doesn't even have the oxygen feed line.....i like the ones posted in this topic, but theyre homemade

kraisee · « **Reply #357 on:** 02/04/2007 05:48 pm »

Infimurf's wonderful Shuttle complex reminds me to mention our own prototype Shuttle MLP model kit in 1:144 scale, which is coming along nicely.

It should be ready some time in March. Here's some early pictures of the resin block forming the main platform:

http://www.launchcomplexmodels.com/Pics/MLP_Platform_001.jpg

http://www.launchcomplexmodels.com/Pics/MLP_Platform_002.jpg

If you'd be interested in one for yourself, give me a shout via e-mail.

Ross.

mike robel · « **Reply #358 on:** 02/04/2007 06:13 pm »

Well, there are a couple ways to go.

She can order from GreatModels.com. There are 4 1/144 shuttle models to choose from there:

Revell USA (orbiter only) 21.95 includes a book.
Revell of Germany (shuttle stack) 18.70 - I suspect it is on sale at the moment. Excellent decals.
Airfix (shuttle stack) 41.50
Minicraft (shuttle stack) 35.95 - generally regarded as the worst of the lot, but does have a good ET.

They are an interent store, but have good prices, you have to pay shipping, but are usually a good deal.

There are smaller 1/288 and 1/200 stacks, but I think the 1/144 ones are better. they are somewhat less than the 1/144 versions.

In 1/72 there is the Revell Orbiter for 33.00.

I have ordered from Great Models and have no complaints. That would probably be my recommendation. As for hobby shops in Tampa, here is a list. I can't speak to these because I live on the other side of the state:

Charlie's Discount Hobbies
(813) 882-4007
7530 W Waters Ave
Tampa, FL

Farmer's Hobby Shop
(813) 741-9979
6323 Burts Rd
Tampa, FL

Happy Hobo Trains
(813) 886-5072
4040 W Waters Ave # 1100
Tampa, FL

Hobbytown USA
(813) 964-5447
11727 N Dale Mabry Hwy
Tampa, FL

Mindworks
(813) 396-3121
Tampa International Airport
Tampa, FL

Morris Kohl Enterprises
(813) 931-1626
1202 W Waters Ave
Tampa, FL

Toy House
(813) 664-1506
6524 N US Highway 301
Tampa, FL

She should call first of course to see if they have any and how much they are.

I do suggest you think about the paper kits again. All you have to do is "cut and paste" and they are pre-printed so there is no painting to do. Might be a bit easier. And the results can be amazing. They can also be detailed with additional work to really bring out the details.

Here is an example: http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery8/dh_gemini.htm

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C5C6 - 4/2/2007 10:56 AM

AndyMc, mike_robel, MarkD, thank you so much for your answers, unfortunately I can't do the paper model because im handicapped (nobody here cares enogh to consider time-worth building it) and I really want a 'plastic' (dont know actually on what materials they're made) model.......maybe if the whole pack (OV-ET-SRB) is very expensive then ill get only the orbiter.......what i need to know is where in Florida I can send my friend to look for one.......perhaps the shop has a website and I can choose the model before she goes....

Chonner · « **Reply #359 on:** 02/04/2007 10:37 pm »

On a light hearted, slightly less serious note, but still cool never the less.

If any of you have ever heard of the British tv program Top Gear, they are famous for doing stupid things on high budgets with cars...... Well this time they decided to turn a reliant robin (a 70's (i think) 3 wheeler small car) into a 1/5 scale space shuttle......then they're launching it to 3000ft. They're excuse for doing this is that they believe space travel can be less expansive by adapting cars to do so.......(these where the same people who launched a mini with 3 hybrid motors in the back off an olympic ski jump)

The stats:

- 1/5th scale Space Shuttle...well sort of.
- Weighing in at 1.4 Metric Tonnes (3080 lbs)

- 12 tons of thrust
- Installed impulse over 200kNs (R impulse based on the Model Rocket Impulse Scale)
- Main power plants consisting a cluster of 6 Hybrid Contrail O motors. Two of which were designed to be airstarted.
- Supplemented by 20 other Cesaroni composites.
- Size: 27 cubic metres. (>1000 cubic feet)
- Man capable - seating for 4. (notice capable....not rated)
- 4.5 months from design to ignition.

Top Gear Website

And the pics:

How it started out:

Hot it started out